Santiago Canyon Fire in Orange by Irvine Lake

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<p>yep my wife works for the red cross and is out and about working with the units to help any injured people out there....</p>

<p>We a few miles from there, but we are getting bombed with smoke (near Beckman HS).</p>

<p>Anyways good luck</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
Six City of Los Angeles fire department trucks just hauled ass up to the fire.





I think we are going to have a lot of fire departments to be thankful for.
 
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I live in Northwood (Trabuco). The air quality is still bad. I was out about 1.5 hours ago to buy some stuff at Tustin Costco - when I got back, it was raining white ash for a little bit. If you do go back, stay inside.
 
I'm in Northwood across the street from Northwood High. If you look north, the skies are blue and clear. If you look south, there's a humungous yellow cloud coming from the southwest (opposite direction of the Santiago fire). What on earth is that?!
 
northwood high is open today. outdoor activities all across iusd have been cancelled though -- in other words, the immediate danger over but air quality still extremely bad.
 
<p>>>If you look south, there's a humungous yellow cloud coming from the southwest (opposite direction of the Santiago fire). </p>

<p>Ugh. My office was just surrounded by that thing for about an hour. My only guess is that the Santa Anas are breaking a bit and allowing for an onshore flow, such that the smoke that blew out over the ocean is partially blowing back. Ew.</p>
 
Ch 4 interviewedOC Fire Capt. (Chief?) Prather & Assembleyman Todd Spitzer in the Santiago Hills area about an hour ago, who both expressed extreme frustration because there had been a Blue Ribbon Committee plan recommendation put forth to the California Legislature which was not passed. The plan covered what would be needed to fight these types of inevitable fires in terms of resources, etc. They said that if they had sufficient resources, the Santiago & Modjeska Canyon fires would not have gotten so bad. Now they are concerned about spread into the Cleveland Nat'l Forest. From the TV coverage, it does appear that the canyons are pretty much toast (pardon the pun).
 
<p>As long as the wind blows like this the fire will just keep taking the path of least resistance. Its going south and slowly east. Humidity is very low and the Temp here in Orange is 95. So more than likely close to 100 in the Canyons. Sad that we dont have but 2 helicopters. Something fishy about that fact. With all the tax money one would think we would have a few more choppers. Seems like we have plenty of police choppers for law enforcement locally. Lets see what our "President" sez to somehow help this situation. I guess Arnold demanded he make an apperance. </p>

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<p>I want to blame someone as much as the next person but to me, the resource thing is a red herring. Everyone and everything is stretched thin. I mean most of the 500,000 ordered to evacuate is near the San Diego area and that is where most of the resources are. Lake Arrowhead is also a big concern. The Santiago fire had died down somewhat until this morning.</p>

<p>Lives first, then property, then the rest. </p>

<p>Update from OC Register Site:</p>

<p>"Fire officials have pulled back helicopters from Modjeska Canyon, where at least two homes have burned, after deciding that conditions were too dangerous to keep them in the air. Firefighters have also pulled back from the area."</p>
 
<p>Woodbury is just fine. I drove past this morning. A little smokey from the area burnt out along Portola but no signs of active fire. All the roads are open and clear. The fire is only burning in the south around Foothill Ranch and East up into the mountain and canyons. The closest it got was when they closed Sand Canyon at Irvine Bl. But that entire area is graded so nothing to burn. I was at Trader Joes in the shopping center Sunday Night. It looked bad but nothing but smoke crossed the open space between Portols and Irvine BL. Only issue is the "Camp Fire" smell in the area for a few weeks in the future or until we get some rain. All the trees made it. The fire just burnt the underbrush in most areas. </p>

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<p><em>>>Ch 4 interviewedOC Fire Capt. (Chief?) Prather & Assembleyman Todd Spitzer in the Santiago Hills area about an hour ago, who both expressed extreme frustration because there had been a Blue Ribbon Committee plan recommendation put forth to the California Legislature which was not passed.</em> </p>

<p>Hmm... I'd love to know what that was. Per <a href="http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/committee/c301/hearings/Hearing_Summary_Report_10-5-04.pdf">this document</a> and the recommendation matrix therein, the Legislature did everything it was asked to do, except one thing that was pending at the time. As for the bill that pending, <a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/03-04/bill/sen/sb_1851-1900/sb_1855_bill_20040830_chaptered.pdf">it was passed and became law</a>.</p>

<p>Maybe he was talking about <a href="http://republican.sen.ca.gov/news/36/pressrelease2763.asp">this</a>? I also don't think Hollingsworth's bill was in <a href="http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/committee/c301/hearings/Staff%20Report_10-5C-1.doc">the recommendations</a>. And according to <a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040415/news_1n15fire.html">this</a>, a fight against new taxes was as equally to blame as any environmental regulations for all of the (purported) recommendations not getting through. <a href="http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3153">And it looks like the Governor is to blame, too</a>.</p>

<p>I like Todd Spitzer personally, but sometimes (or more), he speaks before he thinks.</p>
 
Thought this was interesting...


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The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California has reported a 652 million gallon spike in water demand as a result of the wildfires and heat throughout the region. Bob Muir, a district spokesman, said most of the burden has fallen on MWD's Skinner Treatment Plant, which supplies San Diego County and southern Riverside County. While he said that the current water shortages in Southern California obviously take a back seat to firefighting, the drain puts more strain on an already beleaguered system. <em>- 2:42 p.m.</em></em>
 
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