irvinesinglemom_IHB
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It's in Malibu. Where the rich and famous live. So far, Irvine and OC are safe.
Santiago Canyon Fire in Orange by Irvine Lake
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EvaLSeraphim_IHB
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Just got this from OCFA. Be careful out there.
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Due to the recent and predicted rains, mandatory evacuations are in place for Modjeska and Williams Canyons, and a voluntary evacuation is in place for Silverado Canyon. Evacuees can go to El Modena High School. Additional information is available on the OCFA website at <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ocfa.org/">www.ocfa.org</a>.
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Due to the recent and predicted rains, mandatory evacuations are in place for Modjeska and Williams Canyons, and a voluntary evacuation is in place for Silverado Canyon. Evacuees can go to El Modena High School. Additional information is available on the OCFA website at <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ocfa.org/">www.ocfa.org</a>.
Trooper_IHB
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Now mudslides......sigh. Good on ya Eva for passing the message.
Anonymous_IHB
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<p>Wildfires' scars drive hungry deer onto roads</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-deer6dec06,1,5504007.story?coll=la-editions-orange">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-deer6dec06,1,5504007.story?coll=la-editions-orange</a></p>
As the number of animals struck by cars shoots higher, motorists are urged to slow down.
By Jennifer Delson, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
2:40 PM PST, December 5, 2007
Deer in Orange County looking for food after the wildfires are being killed in record numbers as they leave hillsides once covered with brush and approach roads, animal care officials say.
Motorists have struck 21 deer since the Santiago fire in October, said Ryan Drabek, spokesman for Orange County Animal Care Services. That brings the number of the animals killed this year to 85. There were 59 such cases in 2006 and 40 in 2005.
The deer "have lost their habitat and they don't know where to go," Drabek said.
California Highway Patrol officials today received several calls about deer on the northbound Foothill tollway.
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Drabek said authorities can try to corral the animals off streets simply by approaching them. He warned motorists in the areas of Santiago and Modjeska canyons to be on the alert for animals and drive slowly.
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-deer6dec06,1,5504007.story?coll=la-editions-orange">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-deer6dec06,1,5504007.story?coll=la-editions-orange</a></p>
As the number of animals struck by cars shoots higher, motorists are urged to slow down.
By Jennifer Delson, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
2:40 PM PST, December 5, 2007
Deer in Orange County looking for food after the wildfires are being killed in record numbers as they leave hillsides once covered with brush and approach roads, animal care officials say.
Motorists have struck 21 deer since the Santiago fire in October, said Ryan Drabek, spokesman for Orange County Animal Care Services. That brings the number of the animals killed this year to 85. There were 59 such cases in 2006 and 40 in 2005.
The deer "have lost their habitat and they don't know where to go," Drabek said.
California Highway Patrol officials today received several calls about deer on the northbound Foothill tollway.
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Drabek said authorities can try to corral the animals off streets simply by approaching them. He warned motorists in the areas of Santiago and Modjeska canyons to be on the alert for animals and drive slowly.
EvaLSeraphim_IHB
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<p>From the OCFA this afternoon: </p>
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<p>Voluntary evacuations for residents are in effect at 1100 hours for Modjeska, Silverado and Williams Canyons. An evacuation center has been set up at El Modena High School, located at 3920 East Spring Street in Orange. </p>
<p><strong>Mandatory evacuations for residents of Modjeska, Silverado and Williams Canyons will take effect at 1700 hours.</strong> </p>
<p>If you have questions please call the Orange County hotline at 714-628-7085. If you have an emergency please call 911.</p>
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<p>Be careful this weekend.</p>
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<p>Voluntary evacuations for residents are in effect at 1100 hours for Modjeska, Silverado and Williams Canyons. An evacuation center has been set up at El Modena High School, located at 3920 East Spring Street in Orange. </p>
<p><strong>Mandatory evacuations for residents of Modjeska, Silverado and Williams Canyons will take effect at 1700 hours.</strong> </p>
<p>If you have questions please call the Orange County hotline at 714-628-7085. If you have an emergency please call 911.</p>
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<p>Be careful this weekend.</p>
EvaLSeraphim_IHB
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Personally, I'm crossing Portola Springs, Stonegate, and Orchard Hills off my list for a bit. The USGS has come out with its <em>preliminary</em> reports on debris flow (i.e., landslide) risks for various areas burned in the Santiago Fire. Read the report, view the map, and draw your own conclusions. It's located <a href="http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2007/1419/pdf/OF20071419.pdf">here</a>.
Doesn't someone around here have a wife who is a geologist? Any chance she could help interpret?
Doesn't someone around here have a wife who is a geologist? Any chance she could help interpret?
EvaLSeraphim_IHB
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My bad - It's no vas and his wife the structural engineer.
GoIllini_IHB
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My (civil engineer) interpretation is that if the fire department or emergency services people advise that you evacuate, do not ignore the advice. Even after two or three or a dozen false alarms when nothing happens.
The map is for a specific intensity storm that lasts a specific length of time; one that happens, on average, one time in ten years. For this map, this is 1 3/4 inches of rainfall in three hours time. You can't use the projections from it as a predictor of what actually will happen except for that particular storm. Emergency services will use a series of maps like this to guide their efforts in stormwater management and to indicate who needs to be evacuated for an approaching storm of a predicted intensity and duration.
The map is for a specific intensity storm that lasts a specific length of time; one that happens, on average, one time in ten years. For this map, this is 1 3/4 inches of rainfall in three hours time. You can't use the projections from it as a predictor of what actually will happen except for that particular storm. Emergency services will use a series of maps like this to guide their efforts in stormwater management and to indicate who needs to be evacuated for an approaching storm of a predicted intensity and duration.
irvinesinglemom_IHB
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Uh, who are Frances and Kathryn and why does the map say they are town names smack dab in the middle of Northpark and Northwood? Strange.
GoIllini_IHB
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Source: Historic Packing Houses and Other Industrial Structures in Southern California (Copyright 2002 by James E. Lancaster, Ph.D.)
Santa Fe's "Venta Spur" left the mainline at Venta, the location of the new Tustin MetroLink Station. From Venta it went northeast to a location called Browning on some older maps (near the current Irvine Blvd), then turned southeast to parallel Irvine Blvd through the current Irvine village of Northwood (formerly called Frances), and ended at Kathryn just after crossing Jeffrey Road. The Irvine Citrus Association, Frances Citrus Association and Irvine Valencia Growers packing houses were located on this spur. At one time a separate line left the spur near Browning and turned northwest, ending in Tustin at the Goldenwest Citrus Association (see the Tustin section, above). Citrus fruit produced by the Irvine Company was sold to all of these packing houses.
Santa Fe's "Venta Spur" left the mainline at Venta, the location of the new Tustin MetroLink Station. From Venta it went northeast to a location called Browning on some older maps (near the current Irvine Blvd), then turned southeast to parallel Irvine Blvd through the current Irvine village of Northwood (formerly called Frances), and ended at Kathryn just after crossing Jeffrey Road. The Irvine Citrus Association, Frances Citrus Association and Irvine Valencia Growers packing houses were located on this spur. At one time a separate line left the spur near Browning and turned northwest, ending in Tustin at the Goldenwest Citrus Association (see the Tustin section, above). Citrus fruit produced by the Irvine Company was sold to all of these packing houses.
EvaLSeraphim_IHB
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I believe that Frances and Kathryn were some of the (James?) Irvine kids.