San mateo almost sold out.

[gaogi]

Here is a pie chart of racial composition of Irvine and you call this diverse. No wonder you are the unicorn. Look at black population sliver. It is smaller than the Chinese eyes. The author did not even bother with the browns. Sorry Qwerty you don't even matter in this pie chart.

There's got to be more than 42 Indians in Irvine!

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

That is so true. I run to this Mexican riding bike on my sidewalk frequently and I think he is a crazy loco smiling at me. I try not to make eye contact because I am afraid of him. He really bugs me and I refuse to let him have the Right of way on my sidewalk that I paid for with my HOA dues. 

I am fearful of  Mexicans and the only way I can keep the riff raff out of my city and my rated 10 API schools is to pay high MR, taxes and HOAs knowing the browns and black can't afford this steep price of admission to live in Irvine.

I only watch TV shows and news to learn my current events. I stay away from them and don't want them in the city where I reside.  Most of the bad people being portrayed are brown and black actors in TV cop drama and I watch the 11pm news with my blanket over half of my face.

I am so paranoid of them I don't even dare to drive west of Newport Ave and let alone the mysterious 55 freeway. 

Were you sneaking into TIC construction jobsite again and see the brown in front of the taco trucks. You gotta be kidding me! And the Blacks I have no idea?

Maybe you don't see any because you're afraid to look at them?

Seriously... for me... Irvine seems just as or more diverse than other OC cities.

Were you sneaking into TIC construction jobsite again and see the brown in front of the taco trucks. You gotta be kidding me! And the Blacks I have no idea?

Maybe you don't see any because you're afraid to look at them?

Seriously... for me... Irvine seems just as or more diverse than other OC cities.

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

I will have to say you are definitely one of Irvine's finests. Indians with feather and not dot!

Here is a pie chart of racial composition of Irvine and you call this diverse. No wonder you are the unicorn. Look at black population sliver. It is smaller than the Chinese eyes. The author did not even bother with the browns. Sorry Qwerty you don't even matter in this pie chart.

There's got to be more than 42 Indians in Irvine!

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Here is a pie chart of racial composition of Irvine and you call this diverse. No wonder you are the unicorn. Look at black population sliver. It is smaller than the Chinese eyes. The author did not even bother with the browns. Sorry Qwerty you don't even matter in this pie chart.

Show me other OC cities that are more diverse.

Maybe for this exercise we should define what "diverse" means. Because I'm sure that any other cities you show me, the slivers will be some other race. Is Anaheim more diverse than Irvine? Newport Beach? Mission Viejo? Santa Ana?

 

[IndieDev]

Here is a pie chart of racial composition of Irvine and you call this diverse. No wonder you are the unicorn. Look at black population sliver. It is smaller than the Chinese eyes. The author did not even bother with the browns. Sorry Qwerty you don't even matter in this pie chart.

There's got to be more than 42 Indians in Irvine!

I believe that's just the zip code that encompasses "San Mateo".

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

Rather than giving you a bunch of pie charts for different cities I will stay politically correct by using the demographic research of racially balanced cities in Socal from the finest institution such as USC.

Racial demographic is defined by simple terms like 4-way, 3-way, 2-way and 1-way. Each way represents a dominant racial composition such as White, Asian, Latino or Black.

2-way means the city only has 2 dominant races. Irvine for example is a 2-way city and also meant not ethnic diverse or balance like a 4-way city. A black that showed up in your basketball hook up game of 4 people does not mean Irvine has 25% blacks.

There is no 4 way city in OC but plenty in LA.  However there are a handful of 3-way diverse cities with a balance of Whites, Asians and Latinos: Anaheim, Brea, Cypress, Fullerton, Garden Grove, La Palma, Placentia, Stanton, Tustin and Westminster.

Read the link below for definitions and scroll to page 17 for the executive summary.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/price/research/popdynamics/pdf/2012_Lou-etal_Racially-Balanced-Cities.pdf

Here is a pie chart of racial composition of Irvine and you call this diverse. No wonder you are the unicorn. Look at black population sliver. It is smaller than the Chinese eyes. The author did not even bother with the browns. Sorry Qwerty you don't even matter in this pie chart.

Show me other OC cities that are more diverse.

Maybe for this exercise we should define what "diverse" means. Because I'm sure that any other cities you show me, the slivers will be some other race. Is Anaheim more diverse than Irvine? Newport Beach? Mission Viejo? Santa Ana?

 

[irvinehomeowner]

A black that showed up in your basketball hook up game of 4 people does not mean Irvine has 25% blacks.

I never said that. And it's actually a much higher percentage than that... but I don't expect you to know that. I've actually played in 5-on-5 games where I'm the only non-black on my team. (and yes... many do live in Irvine).

What I did say is that in Orange County, there are not many more "diverse" (or in your terms... 4-way) cities than Irvine. Oh wait...

There is no 4 way city in OC but plenty in LA.

Exactly.

However there are a handful of 3-way diverse cities with a balance of Whites, Asians and Latinos: Anaheim, Brea, Cypress, Fullerton, Garden Grove, La Palma, Placentia, Stanton, Tustin and Westminster.

Ahh... I notice you don't mention Blacks in your 3-way cities... which you specifically point out as a problem with Irvine. So why are they more diverse? I'm sure you can replace Latino with Middle Eastern and those 3-way cities percentages won't be far off from Irvine. And... what about diversity within diversity? GG and Westminster probably skew more towards Vietnamese, whereas Irvine's Asian population has a broader mix of Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Japanese etc..

Now, if you're going to tell me that Irvine is not at least a 3-way city (which makes it on par with other 3-way cities... my original claim) then you really haven't been looking around.

One person's diversity is another person's "There's too many [insert race here] in this city!".

 

[zovall]

Thanks for sharing that study from USC! It was an interesting read.  I've pulled out some information from that study and placed it below.

In regards to what is or isn't 'balanced', the authors state on Page 2 that their definition is arbitrary. And here is how they defined 1-way, etc:

No 4-way cities expected in Orange County:

Four-way cities in the county are unlikely to emerge, given the small black population; in Orange County, the black share has remained at 1.6% since 1990.

And here are the numbers for all the cities in Orange County:

Irvine has become more balanced over the last 2 decades.  When the Hispanic population in Irvine gets to 15% (9.24% in 2010), then Irvine will be a 3-way city according to their criteria.

IHO had asked a few questions:

Is Anaheim more diverse than Irvine? Newport Beach? Mission Viejo? Santa Ana?

According to this study, Anaheim, a 3-way city,  is more diverse than Irvine.  And Newport Beach, Mission Viejo, and Santa Ana (all 1-way cities) are less diverse than Irvine.

 

[qwerty]

lack of racial diversity(small % of black and brown residents)

Well... then you're really talking about a lack of specific racial diversity. I see tons of Asian/Middle Eastern diversity in Irvine.

And maybe it's just who I hang out with... but I see a lot of black/brown diversity in Irvine.

maybe the part of irvine you roll in has more blacks/hispanics than the part i live in. the only hispanics i see are the gardeners and when i look in the mirror (im not kidding, i rarely see other hispanics) and as far as blacks go, they are even a more rare find. 

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Thanks zovall... didn't read through it but I have another question... how does the study classify Middle Eastern people, ie Indians, Persians and Jewish people?

From what I remember, they are classified as either Caucasian or Asian... how are they classified in the USC study?

The reason being... if you do split out the White and/or Asian category with those other "races"... Irvine could probably be classified as a 3-way city (as I do think that Irvine has a higher percentage of "other" White/Asian than Anaheim does).

One other thing which IHS seems to be focusing on is the Black (I would write African American but I'm lazy) population. I crunched the numbers and it looks like the average percentage in Orange County is about 1.69%... Irvine is 1.90%... above average. While in Santa Ana, that percentage is not only below average (1.05%) and has decreased, it is also only a 1-way city and has become **more** 1-way since 1990 (from 65% to 78%). So easy to point out the splinter when looking past the log.

And... I know graphrix isn't around any more... but it looks like he owes me an explanation... according to the USC study... not only has the Asian population in Irvine doubled since 1990... it was already on its way in 2000. I didn't even need a census to see that.

 

[usctrojancpa]

Very interesting study....looks like the white population (as of percentage of total population) has declinded in every city in Orange County from 1990 to 2010.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

maybe the part of irvine you roll in has more blacks/hispanics than the part i live in. the only hispanics i see are the gardeners and when i look in he mirror (im not kidding, i rarely see other hispanics) and as far as blacks go, they are even a more rare find. 

Well... I roll all over Irvine so maybe you don't recognize them anymore? Maybe it's just my small street... which interestingly enough has no Chinese or Koreans (used to be someone from Singapore). But I do have Hispanic, African, Indian, Pakistani, Caucasian, Japanese, Vietnamese all in my 'hood.

I guess my point is... and I'll use basketball since IHS brings it up... in the various cities I've played pick-up ball in... Irvine tends to have the more "diverse" crowd. This also includes when I dine out with the family... I see a wider mix of people then I do in South County or other cities. LA, of course, beats that... but we are talking about OC.

 

[zovall]

how does the study classify Middle Eastern people, ie Indians, Persians and Jewish people?

From what I remember, they are classified as either Caucasian or Asian... how are they classified in the USC study?

The reason being... if you do split out the White and/or Asian category with those other "races"... Irvine could probably be classified as a 3-way city (as I do think that Irvine has a higher percentage of "other" White/Asian than Anaheim does).

It seems like the study is basically using the Census race categories.  Middle Eastern people, Persians, and Jewish people would fall into White and Indians would fall into Asian.

I do agree with what you are saying about the diversity in Irvine. 

 

[The Motor Court Company]

As for the increasing Hispanic population, we have to credit the Irvine HS effect:
As the home prices keep dropping in the ghetto villages that feed into Irvine HS, it become more affordable so Hispanic population can move into the city.

Also the increase of affordable housing (AH) in Irvine also helps this trend. Woodbury Walk, the Arbor at Woodbury, Doria, the un-named Cypress Village AH..etc. I think there are more affordable housing students in Irvine HS than any other Irvine HS.

So in other words, if we exclude these Irvine ghettos, Irvine is still a 2-way city.

 

[qwerty]

As the home prices keep dropping in the ghetto villages that feed into Irvine HS, it become more affordable so Hispanic population can move into the city.

its only a matter of time before we take back what is rightfully ours. we are well on our way on reclaiming other parts of SOCAL, Santa Ana is already ours, the Unicorn City is next.

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

I bet you have a full length mirror.

lack of racial diversity(small % of black and brown residents)

Well... then you're really talking about a lack of specific racial diversity. I see tons of Asian/Middle Eastern diversity in Irvine.

And maybe it's just who I hang out with... but I see a lot of black/brown diversity in Irvine.

maybe the part of irvine you roll in has more blacks/hispanics than the part i live in. the only hispanics i see are the gardeners and when i look in the mirror (im not kidding, i rarely see other hispanics) and as far as blacks go, they are even a more rare find. 

 

[The Motor Court Company]

It is going to be difficult to take over the whole Unicorn city though. The Asian FCB is very strong financially and will keep prices out of reach for your brotherhood for selected villages. IPD is also strongly biased against your people as well.

As the home prices keep dropping in the ghetto villages that feed into Irvine HS, it become more affordable so Hispanic population can move into the city.

its only a matter of time before we take back what is rightfully ours. we are well on our way on reclaiming other parts of SOCAL, Santa Ana is already ours, the Unicorn City is next.

 

[qwerty]

I bet you have a full length mirror.

lack of racial diversity(small % of black and brown residents)

Well... then you're really talking about a lack of specific racial diversity. I see tons of Asian/Middle Eastern diversity in Irvine.

And maybe it's just who I hang out with... but I see a lot of black/brown diversity in Irvine.

maybe the part of irvine you roll in has more blacks/hispanics than the part i live in. the only hispanics i see are the gardeners and when i look in the mirror (im not kidding, i rarely see other hispanics) and as far as blacks go, they are even a more rare find. 

not only do i have a full length mirror, the whole ceiling is mirrored.

 

[qwerty]

It is going to be difficult to take over the whole Unicorn city though. The Asian FCB is very strong financially and will keep prices out of reach for your brotherhood for selected villages. IPD is also strongly biased against your people as well.

As the home prices keep dropping in the ghetto villages that feed into Irvine HS, it become more affordable so Hispanic population can move into the city.

its only a matter of time before we take back what is rightfully ours. we are well on our way on reclaiming other parts of SOCAL, Santa Ana is already ours, the Unicorn City is next.

baby steps my friend. Just like the asians pushed out the white folks, affordable housing has unintended consequences. the asians in woodbury wont want to live next to the affordable housing, causing nearby home prices to start dropping one by one, then we start creeping into the regular neighborhood then it will just snowball from there. then you will see the asian flight. not sure where they will go though.

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

Mexicans are driving Honda too in Irvine but the 10 year old car would give them away unless they hide behind the Darth shields.