San mateo almost sold out.

[traceimage]

Look trace, it's either IHS talks about how Irvine has no brown people, why TIC wants you to live 2 feet from your neighbors, or we get to talk about... nothing, because literally nothing has changed about the Irvine housing market in 18 months.

See it's not IHS content that is fresh, yes, there's only SO much that can be said about Irvine and it's housing market, but it's his approach and delivery. Why do you think Chris Rock got famous by basically doing Eddie Murphy's jokes? It's a fresh perspective and delivery of the content, not necessarily new content. I personally thought "Landfill Ranch" was one of IHS's crowning achievements, and I now use it in my daily vernacular.

Get a sense of humor trace, you've been living in Irvine too long, and dare I say may be taking this a bit too personally. 

... and if you don't like it, why ruin it for the rest of us you debbie downer?  ???

It's. Been. Years. I just have higher expectations. (Not for everyone, just from IHS.) I need something new.

But please don't let me ruin TI for you. I didn't realize my opinions were that powerful.

 

[IndieDev]

Thank you trace for not trying to enforce what's funny on this forum. IHS, myself, and others thank you.

Now back to landfill ranch...

 

[traceimage]

I think I just pinch the sore spot there where Irvine promotes its generousity to welcoming diversities but racism among its police and citizens run deep into the core of their soul. It is no different than politicians getting a cigar job and claiming it as just an inappropriate contact. Thanks for defending me Indie.

And I thought we had made so much progress. I'm seriously disappointed.

I hope you understand that I am not attacking you. The last thing you need is for Indie to defend you from me!

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

Not everyone is smart as you and expecting a highly intellectual delivery of why they are afraid to shake the hands of brown people or look them in the eyes.  Am I not correct describing the Asians fear and confrontation of Hispanics or their perception derived from the media.  I am only reciting occurring events of Qwerty personal experiences and are you telling me that there is not a grain of truth in what I said. May be I should sugar coat my commentaries like a slick politician. I did not offend anyone. I used myself as a subject rather than using the handles of those who expressed their dismays of Hispanic individuals. IHO said I was afraid of them so I confessed why I am afraid.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

To clarify... IHS was the one who singled out the lack of Black demographic in Irvine and I pointed out that it's not as bad as he thinks (although he may be an expert on Asian population in Irvine... that doesn't make him an expert on all the demographics because he doesn't actually live here).

He tried to make his point with a pie chart and a USC study... which in fact proved my point that Irvine is actually above the OC average when it comes to Black population... and that in fact, IHS' favorite city not only is a 1-way city... but has even less Blacks.

@TMMC: You reference the lack of diversity in Irvine (although I believe you are actually talking about a lack of a specific diversity) yet you point out the ghetto-ness of certain areas of Irvine. What demographic lives in those ghetto areas? Doesn't that lend to *more* diversity in Irvine (or maybe just not your specific group)?

 

[The Motor Court Company]

I was a victim of a violent crime and the aggressor is black. Since then I fear my life every time I see black people, especially young ones wearing hoodie.

Not everyone is smart as you and expecting a highly intellectual delivery of why they are afraid to shake the hands of brown people or look them in the eyes.  Am I not correct describing the Asians fear and confrontation of Hispanics or their perception derived from the media.  I am only reciting occurring events of Qwerty personal experiences and are you telling me that there is not a grain of truth in what I said. May be I should sugar coat my commentaries like a slick politician. I did not offend anyone. I used myself as a subject rather than using the handles of those who expressed their dismays of Hispanic individuals. IHO said I was afraid of them so I confessed why I am afraid.

Thanks for responding to me.

I don't consider myself very smart. I don't really know if Asians are afraid of Hispanics. Not the ones I know, but that may not be a proper sample. And many Asians don't look anyone directly in the eyes because it is considered rude/confrontational in some cultures. But let me ask you this: did anyone on TI actually express fear or dismay about Hispanics or other "brown" people in Irvine? If so, I haven't read it. I feel like the people you are lampooning don't actually exist on TI.

 

[rkp]

I was a victim of a violent crime and the aggressor is black. Since then I fear my life every time I see black people, especially young ones wearing hoodie.

Not everyone is smart as you and expecting a highly intellectual delivery of why they are afraid to shake the hands of brown people or look them in the eyes.  Am I not correct describing the Asians fear and confrontation of Hispanics or their perception derived from the media.  I am only reciting occurring events of Qwerty personal experiences and are you telling me that there is not a grain of truth in what I said. May be I should sugar coat my commentaries like a slick politician. I did not offend anyone. I used myself as a subject rather than using the handles of those who expressed their dismays of Hispanic individuals. IHO said I was afraid of them so I confessed why I am afraid.

Thanks for responding to me.

I don't consider myself very smart. I don't really know if Asians are afraid of Hispanics. Not the ones I know, but that may not be a proper sample. And many Asians don't look anyone directly in the eyes because it is considered rude/confrontational in some cultures. But let me ask you this: did anyone on TI actually express fear or dismay about Hispanics or other "brown" people in Irvine? If so, I haven't read it. I feel like the people you are lampooning don't actually exist on TI.

too soon man...not cool

 

[The Motor Court Company]

what's wrong with speaking the truth? I had to spent thousands of my hard earned dollars in medical bill as they never caught the attacker and I got no one to sue.

I was a victim of a violent crime and the aggressor is black. Since then I fear my life every time I see black people, especially young ones wearing hoodie.

Not everyone is smart as you and expecting a highly intellectual delivery of why they are afraid to shake the hands of brown people or look them in the eyes.  Am I not correct describing the Asians fear and confrontation of Hispanics or their perception derived from the media.  I am only reciting occurring events of Qwerty personal experiences and are you telling me that there is not a grain of truth in what I said. May be I should sugar coat my commentaries like a slick politician. I did not offend anyone. I used myself as a subject rather than using the handles of those who expressed their dismays of Hispanic individuals. IHO said I was afraid of them so I confessed why I am afraid.

Thanks for responding to me.

I don't consider myself very smart. I don't really know if Asians are afraid of Hispanics. Not the ones I know, but that may not be a proper sample. And many Asians don't look anyone directly in the eyes because it is considered rude/confrontational in some cultures. But let me ask you this: did anyone on TI actually express fear or dismay about Hispanics or other "brown" people in Irvine? If so, I haven't read it. I feel like the people you are lampooning don't actually exist on TI.

too soon man...not cool

 

[IndieDev]

too soon man...not cool

rkp is there a reason you seem to be perpetually insulted by ... everything?

Make fun of TIC villages - rkp is insulted
Make fun of Irvine - rkp is insulted
Make vague tongue-in-cheek reference to politically hot topic - rkp is insulted

Relax man. I know some people have delicate sensibilities, but out of a crowd of very sensitive posters on TI (and there are a few of them), you stick out pretty well.

*please don't be insulted, simply trying to discuss the topic, not personally trying to attack you or your family.

 

[rkp]

i wasnt insulted...i found it funny but then felt a bit odd lol'ing and thought it was too soon.

its funny, you are the most worked up when you get in your mode of having to prove someone right...you definitely dont relax and write pages and pages to prove your point

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

We all have fears and our past experiences determine our defense mechanism to avoiding potential threat to ourselves and families. Isn't this why people choose to live in a city with a low FBI crime index?

I am not here trying to compare cities or promote a city of my interest. Diversities is when there are equal representation of ethnicies and not 90% comprised of 2 races and the rest make up the remaining 10%.


I do have an issue with Irvine's self promoting the most ethnic diversity title when in fact no organizations, research studies, and census derived city data groups support its claim. I have no issue with one way cities or two way cities or 3 way cities. There is no right or wrongly or better or worse among them. Self promotional lies about diversities is no different than claiming to having a college degree without ever attending the school.

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

I pay Irvine property tax, MR, and HOAs. I can even show you my utility bills with my name on it. My kid go to school in Irvine. I am just as qualify as you to make comments.

To clarify... IHS was the one who singled out the lack of Black demographic in Irvine and I pointed out that it's not as bad as he thinks (although he may be an expert on Asian population in Irvine... that doesn't make him an expert on all the demographics because he doesn't actually live here).

He tried to make his point with a pie chart and a USC study... which in fact proved my point that Irvine is actually above the OC average when it comes to Black population... and that in fact, IHS' favorite city not only is a 1-way city... but has even less Blacks.

@TMMC: You reference the lack of diversity in Irvine (although I believe you are actually talking about a lack of a specific diversity) yet you point out the ghetto-ness of certain areas of Irvine. What demographic lives in those ghetto areas? Doesn't that lend to *more* diversity in Irvine (or maybe just not your specific group)?

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I do have an issue with Irvine's self promoting the most ethnic diversity title when in fact no organizations, research studies, and census derived city data groups support its claim.

I think your Irvine loathing is blurring your vision.

Irvine is definitely diverse... maybe not in all races in large percentages, but it's obvious to anyone who lives here and you don't need study to prove it. If we were to break out the census data so that Whites would split into Persian, Armenian, Jewish etc and Asians into Indians, Irvine could probably be a 4-way city.

I'm sure if I looked hard enough, I'd find some organization that would give you that proof... but I don't have an issue with it like you do.

P.S. You're avoiding it now... but do you still disbelieve the presence of a Black population in Irvine?

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I pay Irvine property tax, MR, and HOAs. I can even show you my utility bills with my name on it. My kid go to school in Irvine. I am just as qualify as you to make comments.

But do you LIVE in Irvine? You even admit you don't like hanging around in Irvine so how can that qualify you?

That's like me commenting on how much crime there is in ALL parts of Santa Ana because I drive through there all the time.

Water Bill Logic... hilarious!

 

[qwerty]

too soon man...not cool

why is it too soon? is next year ok? this is one of the things that irritates me about people. the new ben stiller movie, neighborhood watch, is not getting any press or may have even moved back its release date because of the trayvon martin thing and how the public would perceive a particular scene in the movie as insensitive. the fact of the matter is that people die every day, this time it was some young kid in florida or wherever it was. of course it is sad but why cant it be mentioned? this is the same reason why racism still exists in this country, nobody feels comfortable talking about because its perceived as taboo. the fact is if we openly talked about it more the sooner racism would potentially go away (i dont think it will ever go away though).

 

[socal78]

but do you still disbelieve the presence of a Black population in Irvine?

Are you saying there are black residents of Irvine? The three years I lived in P.S., I believe I saw just 1 or 2.

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

IHO Then prove it. At least I pull up research report and City data and nothing has ever been printed about Irvine being a diverse city except for some self promotion marketing crap article in Parent Magazine.

You can tell me all day long about how diverse the city is base on your experience living in the midst of blacks and brown. You know for a real fact that both combined are still a single digit percentage. You can ration the point that Irvine has O.02 percent black more than Santa Ana but I never said Santa Ana is a diverse city in the first place.

 

[qwerty]

I do have an issue with Irvine's self promoting the most ethnic diversity title when in fact no organizations, research studies, and census derived city data groups support its claim.

I think your Irvine loathing is blurring your vision.

Irvine is definitely diverse... maybe not in all races in large percentages, but it's obvious to anyone who lives here and you don't need study to prove it. If we were to break out the census data so that Whites would split into Persian, Armenian, Jewish etc and Asians into Indians, Irvine could probably be a 4-way city.

I'm sure if I looked hard enough, I'd find some organization that would give you that proof... but I don't have an issue with it like you do.

P.S. You're avoiding it now... but do you still disbelieve the presence of a Black population in Irvine?

i would say irvine is ethnically diverse but not racially diverse. and IHO, you keep on giving jewish as an example, is that considered an ethnicity now?

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

I Went to a Jewish wedding for a day and that was a 0.000005% of my life. I think I am pretty diverse in ethnic Jewish culture.

 

[socal78]

but do you still disbelieve the presence of a Black population in Irvine?

Are you saying there are black residents of Irvine? The three years I lived in P.S., I believe I saw just 1 or 2.

The reason I say 1 or 2 is because admittedly, I can't always tell them apart. It may have actually been the same person. Yes I know, I know. This sounds like a totally inappropriate remark. Everyone knows I don't mean anything by it.