The 2020 Presidential Election
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JIMHO, Trump is the epitome of identity politics. He just picked the group that still compromises 70%+ of the voting age people.
That's the problem for the Dems driving the identity platform like Harris. Unless any stalwart Demz on board want to volunteer to hop their kid on a bus to south Central for equality busing.
That busing comment is coming back around even if Harris is no where near the ticket.
Most of the people in our country are decent, they want everyone to succeed, but they get twinges when so many of the proposals seem, like busing, to be at their expense.
If the dems field a candidate that doesn't seem to be pandering for a pound of flesh for shit done three, four, five or ten generations ago, they have a chance.
He has broad support for different political spectrum.
Even people on the right like Yang.Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan,Tucker Carlson, and even Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro " I'll be honest, I'm rooting for @AndrewYang" "Andrew Yang, the only person on the stage who has ideas different from the rest."https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1139646585158033408https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1143996007383875584?lang=en
Here is Yang on Fox News talking about that https://youtu.be/_x3Hx8i2FhA
Conservatives like Yang because he is for personal autonomy and is offering a realistic fix to the broken welfare system.
He's making some progress in the recent polling. Just hit 5% in early state like New Hampshire. https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1151518471089459201
It's still very early. He still has one of the lowest name recognition among all the candidates.
Potential for growth and trajectory is more important at the point of the race.
it's early, i'll give you that, but i just don't see his personality being the right fit for taking on someone like el presidente trump. the american people want someone loud and firey to take on trump - hence the infatuation on the left and in the media with aoc. remember, the media will be just as responsible, if not more, for propelling yang to the top - just as they did trump. yang might appeal to intellectuals and might have visions of a future that are inevitable, but the average american cares about next week and next month, not next decade. yang needs to invoke emotion in now and not the future for him to be successful, and i haven't really gleaned as much from what i've seen or heard.
A TALE OF IDENTITY POLITICS
ACT I
Once upon a time, there was a very liberal LA County Sheriff named Jim McDonald.
Jim was so liberal, he invited Liberal activists to ?oversee? his own department.
Jim was so liberal, he maintained a hostile relationship with immigration authorities.
Jim was so liberal, he fired dozens of deputies who were accused of, but not convicted of, domestic violence and sexual misconduct. Yes, Jim ?believes the woman.?
But alas, Jim was a white, cis-gendered male.
ACT II
Jim was challenged in the 2018 election by Alex Villanueva, a former Sheriff Lieutenant.
Alex had a long history of avoiding outside monitoring of department operations.
Alex had a long history of protecting deputies from activists.
But, lo and behold, Alex is of Mexican descent.
ACT III
Liberals voters in LA County could not see past the racial identity of the Sheriff candidates and voted Jim out so they can have a Mexican Sheriff.
ACT IV
Within days of taking office, Alex starts the process of reinstating hundreds of deputies fired for alleged sexual misconduct. No, Alex does not "believe the woman".
Within weeks of taking office, Alex publicly confronts of Board of Supervisors about civilian oversight.
MORAL OF THE STORY
Of course, the backgrounds of Jim and Alex were well documented before the election but Liberals could not take off their identity politics blinders, they did not see what was right in front of their faces.
ACT I
Once upon a time, there was a very liberal LA County Sheriff named Jim McDonald.
Jim was so liberal, he invited Liberal activists to ?oversee? his own department.
Jim was so liberal, he maintained a hostile relationship with immigration authorities.
Jim was so liberal, he fired dozens of deputies who were accused of, but not convicted of, domestic violence and sexual misconduct. Yes, Jim ?believes the woman.?
But alas, Jim was a white, cis-gendered male.
ACT II
Jim was challenged in the 2018 election by Alex Villanueva, a former Sheriff Lieutenant.
Alex had a long history of avoiding outside monitoring of department operations.
Alex had a long history of protecting deputies from activists.
But, lo and behold, Alex is of Mexican descent.
ACT III
Liberals voters in LA County could not see past the racial identity of the Sheriff candidates and voted Jim out so they can have a Mexican Sheriff.
ACT IV
Within days of taking office, Alex starts the process of reinstating hundreds of deputies fired for alleged sexual misconduct. No, Alex does not "believe the woman".
Within weeks of taking office, Alex publicly confronts of Board of Supervisors about civilian oversight.
MORAL OF THE STORY
Of course, the backgrounds of Jim and Alex were well documented before the election but Liberals could not take off their identity politics blinders, they did not see what was right in front of their faces.
nosuchreality
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irvinehomeowner said:nosuchreality said:
But Cali isn't really a concern right? And based on your comments, it still doesn't seem like there is someone who can get the nomination and beat Trump.
In recent history, only Bush 41 lost a re-election... so odds favor Trump but maybe the same thing will happen. What's interesting to me is that most people I talk to don't like Trump, so you would think he would lose next year. I think the Dems just have to find a candidate who is likable and doesn't have any baggage... and that's the problem I mentioned with Biden, while he does seem affable (hence his nickname Uncle Joe), the right is pushing his other nickname (Creepy Joe) which is why he should avoid situations like what Kings posted. What's ironic is we all know Trump is "creepy" too, yet that seems to get swept under the rug or re-labeled as "charisma".
C'mon Dems... find the answer America needs... make America normal again... MANA.
JIMHO, Trump is the epitome of identity politics. He just picked the group that still compromises 70%+ of the voting age people.
That's the problem for the Dems driving the identity platform like Harris. Unless any stalwart Demz on board want to volunteer to hop their kid on a bus to south Central for equality busing.
That busing comment is coming back around even if Harris is no where near the ticket.
Most of the people in our country are decent, they want everyone to succeed, but they get twinges when so many of the proposals seem, like busing, to be at their expense.
If the dems field a candidate that doesn't seem to be pandering for a pound of flesh for shit done three, four, five or ten generations ago, they have a chance.
Because he is much more than a " free stuff" candidate. He is non-ideological and comes from logic and reason.Happiness said:
He has broad support for different political spectrum.
Even people on the right like Yang.Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan,Tucker Carlson, and even Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro " I'll be honest, I'm rooting for @AndrewYang" "Andrew Yang, the only person on the stage who has ideas different from the rest."https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1139646585158033408https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1143996007383875584?lang=en
In case you think Trump was just a small speedbump on history's unstoppable march towards the new global socialist epoch, Boris Johnson just became the UK prime minister.
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/23/20707...ter-brexit-conservative-party-leader-election
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/23/20707...ter-brexit-conservative-party-leader-election
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
Does Yang even have a chance to get nominated?
Yang is not a socialist. Yang makes a compelling case why the entire socialism-capitalism dichotomy is out of dateHappiness said:
Here is Yang on Fox News talking about that https://youtu.be/_x3Hx8i2FhA
Conservatives like Yang because he is for personal autonomy and is offering a realistic fix to the broken welfare system.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
So how does a country in debt pay for universal income?
Kings said:
He's making some progress in the recent polling. Just hit 5% in early state like New Hampshire. https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1151518471089459201
It's still very early. He still has one of the lowest name recognition among all the candidates.
Potential for growth and trajectory is more important at the point of the race.
Kenkoko said:
it's early, i'll give you that, but i just don't see his personality being the right fit for taking on someone like el presidente trump. the american people want someone loud and firey to take on trump - hence the infatuation on the left and in the media with aoc. remember, the media will be just as responsible, if not more, for propelling yang to the top - just as they did trump. yang might appeal to intellectuals and might have visions of a future that are inevitable, but the average american cares about next week and next month, not next decade. yang needs to invoke emotion in now and not the future for him to be successful, and i haven't really gleaned as much from what i've seen or heard.
The tax code is rigged. I talked to a couple of small business owner and they like the reduction in corporate tax rate.
BUT then I told them there are big corporations that paid nothing under the new tax code. (Recently public info, real news) One guy flipped out turned all red. I thought he was going to have a nervous breakdown. Hahaa
He calmed down after the other guy talked about using credit card points for vacation.
Like I previously said. People don?t care about politics. They care about there pocket book aka their money. Sorry folks the system is even more rigged! Lower the tax rate for business. (The mega big business are not even paying it according to many articles) Over all indivduals paid more in taxes this year than last! (True fact, look it up. Important because that?s when the tax code changed.)
#BusinessCircle
BUT then I told them there are big corporations that paid nothing under the new tax code. (Recently public info, real news) One guy flipped out turned all red. I thought he was going to have a nervous breakdown. Hahaa
He calmed down after the other guy talked about using credit card points for vacation.
Like I previously said. People don?t care about politics. They care about there pocket book aka their money. Sorry folks the system is even more rigged! Lower the tax rate for business. (The mega big business are not even paying it according to many articles) Over all indivduals paid more in taxes this year than last! (True fact, look it up. Important because that?s when the tax code changed.)
#BusinessCircle