The 2020 Presidential Election

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So does anyone else on the Dem side think the *optics* of the Biden thing is okay?

Again, I know it was innocuous, it just looked weird and didn't do his "creepy" reputation any favors.

IC? fortune11?
 
i wish this was satire!  what's wrong bernie, getting a little taste of the real world?

Bernie Sanders campaign announces it will cut hours to pay staffers $15 minimum wage, prompting mockery

Democrat presidential candidate Bernie Sanders announced this weekend he will cut staffers' hours so that they can effectively be paid a $15-an-hour minimum wage, prompting mockery from critics who say the move is more evidence that Sanders' plan to raise the national minimum wage is hypocritical and would only lead to less work and more unemployment.

The Washington Post first reported last Thursday that Sanders' field staffers were upset that Sanders championed a $15 minimum wage on the campaign trail, and made headlines for railing against major corporations who pay "starvation wages" -- even as his own employees made "poverty wages."

In response, Sanders told The Des Moines Register he was "very proud" to lead the first major presidential campaign with unionized workers, but also "bothered" that news of the internal strife had spilled into the media.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-announces-it-will-cut-hours-to-pay-staffers-15-minimum-wage-prompting-mockery
 
What?s the update? Are you gong to volunteer to make Lb great again?

A coastal community, but why isn?t the real estate value high?

Kings said:
i wish this was satire!  what's wrong bernie, getting a little taste of the real world?

Bernie Sanders campaign announces it will cut hours to pay staffers $15 minimum wage, prompting mockery

Democrat presidential candidate Bernie Sanders announced this weekend he will cut staffers' hours so that they can effectively be paid a $15-an-hour minimum wage, prompting mockery from critics who say the move is more evidence that Sanders' plan to raise the national minimum wage is hypocritical and would only lead to less work and more unemployment.

The Washington Post first reported last Thursday that Sanders' field staffers were upset that Sanders championed a $15 minimum wage on the campaign trail, and made headlines for railing against major corporations who pay "starvation wages" -- even as his own employees made "poverty wages."

In response, Sanders told The Des Moines Register he was "very proud" to lead the first major presidential campaign with unionized workers, but also "bothered" that news of the internal strife had spilled into the media.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-announces-it-will-cut-hours-to-pay-staffers-15-minimum-wage-prompting-mockery
 
irvinehomeowner said:
eyephone said:
Maybe you should go on a diet.

eyephone said:
Stay off the cheese!

eyephone said:
It does apply here. Fatty

Nice edit. But I caught it before you could change it.

Sorry, your insults don't work.

Stay on topic.

So you're okay with Biden kissing his granddaughter in public like that?

Again, like you, I don't think it's a bid deal except for the fact that his opposition will use it.

can we make eyephone great again?
 
Kings said:
irvinehomeowner said:
eyephone said:
Maybe you should go on a diet.

eyephone said:
Stay off the cheese!

eyephone said:
It does apply here. Fatty

Nice edit. But I caught it before you could change it.

Sorry, your insults don't work.

Stay on topic.

So you're okay with Biden kissing his granddaughter in public like that?

Again, like you, I don't think it's a bid deal except for the fact that his opposition will use it.

can we make eyephone great again?

Ask your wife that
 
I don't think Bernie or Biden will cut it... enough of these older guys as president, I want to see a strong female candidate from the Dems.

Do Warren or Harris have a chance to become a front runner?
 
eyephone said:
Kings said:
irvinehomeowner said:
eyephone said:
Maybe you should go on a diet.

eyephone said:
Stay off the cheese!

eyephone said:
It does apply here. Fatty

Nice edit. But I caught it before you could change it.

Sorry, your insults don't work.

Stay on topic.

So you're okay with Biden kissing his granddaughter in public like that?

Again, like you, I don't think it's a bid deal except for the fact that his opposition will use it.

can we make eyephone great again?

Ask your wife that

she says no, no we can't  :(
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I don't think Bernie or Biden will cut it... enough of these older guys as president, I want to see a strong female candidate from the Dems.

Do Warren or Harris have a chance to become a front runner?

i think pocohontas is trying way too hard and will fold like a paper straw against trump.  "i'm gonna get me a beer" is a perfect example with how fake and forced her personality is.  i'd love to know how many focus groups that idea went through before they decided to run that one.

kamala perhaps has a chance if biden's creepy antics are rejected.  she needs to keep going hard at the old man like she did last debate since it proved to be a winning strategy for her.  i'm still not convinced that the dnc doesn't already have it in the bag for biden, and if not, you can bet obama will come out at the final hour to push creepy joe to the finish line.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I don't think Bernie or Biden will cut it... enough of these older guys as president, I want to see a strong female candidate from the Dems.

Do Warren or Harris have a chance to become a front runner?

None of them light a fire.  The dems have managed to paint themselves into a identity politics corner.  Whoever emerges from this existing field Trump will wipe the floors with them, and he'll use their own labeling against them...too old, too young, too white, not black enough, too privileged not gay enough, too socialist, not socialist enough,  and on and on.  Trump 2020, get ready.
 
morekaos said:
irvinehomeowner said:
I don't think Bernie or Biden will cut it... enough of these older guys as president, I want to see a strong female candidate from the Dems.

Do Warren or Harris have a chance to become a front runner?

None of them light a fire.  The dems have managed to paint themselves into a identity politics corner.  Whoever emerges from this existing field Trump will wipe the floors with them, and he'll use their own labeling against them...too old, too young, too white, not black enough, too privileged not gay enough, too socialist, not socialist enough,  and on and on.  Trump 2020, get ready.

Just because it's purple doesn't make it true. :)
 
None of those labels i listed came from a Republican...all of them were democrats criticizing their own candidates.  There is no female, woman of color, blue collar but highly educated single mother, now lesbian but considering transitioning, CEO of jewish decent doctor with multi racial actor parents (one of which is Palestinian) from California but lives in New York after moving back from a few years in Paris where she had at least two abortions paid for by the government....cant seem to find that candidate.
 
morekaos said:
irvinehomeowner said:
I don't think Bernie or Biden will cut it... enough of these older guys as president, I want to see a strong female candidate from the Dems.

Do Warren or Harris have a chance to become a front runner?

None of them light a fire.  The dems have managed to paint themselves into a identity politics corner.  Whoever emerges from this existing field Trump will wipe the floors with them, and he'll use their own labeling against them...too old, too young, too white, not black enough, too privileged not gay enough, too socialist, not socialist enough,  and on and on.  Trump 2020, get ready.

Nothing but trash. Weak on natiaonl security, weak on drugs, and weak on crime.
 
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
irvinehomeowner said:
I don't think Bernie or Biden will cut it... enough of these older guys as president, I want to see a strong female candidate from the Dems.

Do Warren or Harris have a chance to become a front runner?

None of them light a fire.  The dems have managed to paint themselves into a identity politics corner.  Whoever emerges from this existing field Trump will wipe the floors with them, and he'll use their own labeling against them...too old, too young, too white, not black enough, too privileged not gay enough, too socialist, not socialist enough,  and on and on.  Trump 2020, get ready.

Nothing but trash. Weak on natiaonl security, weak on drugs, and weak on crime.

Curious Eye, who in that field of candidates do you feel is strong on those issues and you will support?
 
morekaos said:
None of those labels i listed came from a Republican...all of them were democrats criticizing their own candidates.  There is no female, woman of color, blue collar but highly educated single mother, now lesbian but considering transitioning, CEO of jewish decent doctor with multi racial actor parents (one of which is Palestinian) from California but lives in New York after moving back from a few years in Paris where she had at least two abortions paid for by the government....cant seem to find that candidate.

But I don't agree with "wiping the floors".

First, Trump is horrible during debates, at least in my opinion.

Second, to really wipe the floor, Trump has to win both the popular and electoral vote, and by a good margin... none of this "too close to call" stuff like in 2016.

Do you really see that happening?

I think it's going to be close no matter who the Dems put up just because people like me don't really like Trump... I guess I don't get his charisma.
 
So it?s okay for Trump to get out is the field of GOP canidates last primary. But when it comes to the Democrats to pick a candidate. They don?t have a chance to pick a canidate.
 
Not at all, there were 17 repub candidates on that stage but they were not divided up according to color, gender, sexual preference, and so on like these dems are.  Lots of policy and fiscal differences but no socialist to capitalist fight.  I certainly had my horses in that race.  I'm asking which in this field appeals to you?
 
morekaos said:
Yes yes, everybody is a racist and everything is racial.  Lets now only point out those that are not racist since they are the minority in the world, the real unicorns. Or better yet everyone should be racist...then no one will be. This racist thing is getting old, it is losing its punch when used to shame everyone who doesn't agree with you into shutting up and getting in line, comrade.  Racist used to be a real horrible, extreme label to call someone, now it gets thrown around like a used rag.

Again, this reworking of the meaning implication and impact of the word racism only weakens the argument for real racism...cmon? a dog is racist?...

Liberals Have a Meltdown Over the Dog Ivanka Trump Gifted Her Daughter

"Aryan dog.  Anyone else notice?"

"Good thing it?s a white dog. Your dad hates the blacks ."

"Winter white...hmm figures, I guess the only color that keeps it out of a cage at the Trump household :-("

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/07/22/liberals-have-a-meltdown-over-the-dog-ivanka-trump-gifted-her-daughter-n2550383
 
morekaos said:
Not at all, there were 17 repub candidates on that stage but they were not divided up according to color, gender, sexual preference, and so on like these dems are.  Lots of policy and fiscal differences but no socialist to capitalist fight.  I certainly had my horses in that race.  I'm asking which in this field appeals to you?

1. I don?t know.
2. What?s your problem with color, gender or sexuality preference? (Your like always bashing them.)
 
I have no problem with them, Dems though push the identity politics over a cliff.  It defines their candidates, not policy and issues.
 
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