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Of course that's how the Trump supporter sees that cover.
?In 2015, Trump said marijuana legalization should be decided on the state level. But on 18 November 2016, Trump selected a legislator who is notably hostile to legal weed to serve as his attorney general:
President-elect Donald Trump?s reported pick of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions as the nation?s top law enforcement officer should ?scare the hell out of the marijuana industry,? drug policy expert John Hudak told The Cannabist on Friday.
Sessions, who has railed against marijuana legalization, could play a prominent role in the future of the burgeoning $7.4 billion industry. After November?s election, 28 states and Washington, D.C., have approved medical marijuana programs, and eight have expanded to full adult use of recreational cannabis.?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-says-hell-legalize-weed-in-every-state/
The main reason Trump picked Sessions is because he knew immigration laws would be enforced.
Marijuana legalization was not talked about much this past election cycle. Back then, Colorado and Washington were the only states that had fully legalized it, but now that several more states have done so, it's picking up steam as an issue.
Again your wrong. Attorney General Sessions ends Obama era policy on legalized marijuana. Sessions gave the US attorneys the green light to aggressively enforce federal laws against marijuana.
https://youtu.be/-BYXmTyyXDc
I was talking about the election of 2016. The events you are citing happened recently and have actually worked in favor of marijuana advocates by allowing Trump to take a more proactive position. Prior to Sessions taking his hard line approach, marijuana legalization was on the political back burner.
Either Trump and Sessions didn't coordinate on the AG's hard line stance and Sessions made that policy on his own, or more interestingly, they did coordinate and Trump used Sessions as a pawn to get this issue front and center in a masterful bit of 12-dimensional chess.
Now you have former 'War on Drugs' advocates like John Boehner publicly announcing their support for marijuana legalization and looking to profit swamp-style from their new found love of the ganj.
the law is the law. trump supports changing the current law and his stance hasn't changed. and just because sessions says he's going to enforce the current law doesn't make him a bad guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh4f8SUp-PU
the point is everyone likes to complain about laws (immigration, drugs, etc.) and demonize the law enforcers (AG, ICE, etc.), but nobody wants to talk about the process to change the laws and how we are fortunate to live in a country where we have the ability to do that.
ps. nazi germany strawman arguments are that way ------------->
Irvinecommuter
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Kings said:
great cover, looking absolutely royal. thank you time magazine!
Of course that's how the Trump supporter sees that cover.
Liar Loan said:
?In 2015, Trump said marijuana legalization should be decided on the state level. But on 18 November 2016, Trump selected a legislator who is notably hostile to legal weed to serve as his attorney general:
President-elect Donald Trump?s reported pick of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions as the nation?s top law enforcement officer should ?scare the hell out of the marijuana industry,? drug policy expert John Hudak told The Cannabist on Friday.
Sessions, who has railed against marijuana legalization, could play a prominent role in the future of the burgeoning $7.4 billion industry. After November?s election, 28 states and Washington, D.C., have approved medical marijuana programs, and eight have expanded to full adult use of recreational cannabis.?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-says-hell-legalize-weed-in-every-state/
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Kings said:
The main reason Trump picked Sessions is because he knew immigration laws would be enforced.
Marijuana legalization was not talked about much this past election cycle. Back then, Colorado and Washington were the only states that had fully legalized it, but now that several more states have done so, it's picking up steam as an issue.
Liar Loan said:
Again your wrong. Attorney General Sessions ends Obama era policy on legalized marijuana. Sessions gave the US attorneys the green light to aggressively enforce federal laws against marijuana.
https://youtu.be/-BYXmTyyXDc
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eyephone said:
I was talking about the election of 2016. The events you are citing happened recently and have actually worked in favor of marijuana advocates by allowing Trump to take a more proactive position. Prior to Sessions taking his hard line approach, marijuana legalization was on the political back burner.
Either Trump and Sessions didn't coordinate on the AG's hard line stance and Sessions made that policy on his own, or more interestingly, they did coordinate and Trump used Sessions as a pawn to get this issue front and center in a masterful bit of 12-dimensional chess.
Now you have former 'War on Drugs' advocates like John Boehner publicly announcing their support for marijuana legalization and looking to profit swamp-style from their new found love of the ganj.
eyephone said:
the law is the law. trump supports changing the current law and his stance hasn't changed. and just because sessions says he's going to enforce the current law doesn't make him a bad guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh4f8SUp-PU
inv0ke-epipen
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The law is the law, just because Himmler followed it doesn?t make him a bad guy.
Obviously this is an extreme example, but the argument it?s law therefore it?s good does not always apply.
Obviously this is an extreme example, but the argument it?s law therefore it?s good does not always apply.
inv0ke-epipen said:
the point is everyone likes to complain about laws (immigration, drugs, etc.) and demonize the law enforcers (AG, ICE, etc.), but nobody wants to talk about the process to change the laws and how we are fortunate to live in a country where we have the ability to do that.
ps. nazi germany strawman arguments are that way ------------->
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Mostly agree, but on the flipside people tend to jump to illegal = bad because illegal, instead of considering the thing on its own merits/demerits.
There is obviously flexibility in enforcement, so I think it is fair to disapprove of ICE, Jeff Sessions? or other entities enforcement decisions.
Nazi example is loaded, but not a strawman. It is just an example to show ?enforcing the law doesn?t make someone a bad guy? doesn?t always hold, and demonstrates the potential dangers in this line of thinking.
Marijuana and immigration are obviously much more grey issues, and Jeff Sessions could be in the right here. I don?t believe he is in the right only because he is enforcing the law, however.
Again, I agree that the focus should be on changing the law, but believe enforcement can also be a part of the conversation.
There is obviously flexibility in enforcement, so I think it is fair to disapprove of ICE, Jeff Sessions? or other entities enforcement decisions.
Nazi example is loaded, but not a strawman. It is just an example to show ?enforcing the law doesn?t make someone a bad guy? doesn?t always hold, and demonstrates the potential dangers in this line of thinking.
Marijuana and immigration are obviously much more grey issues, and Jeff Sessions could be in the right here. I don?t believe he is in the right only because he is enforcing the law, however.
Again, I agree that the focus should be on changing the law, but believe enforcement can also be a part of the conversation.