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Cliff Notes version of Trump's speech today:

"The polls are all wrong. I don't believe them. But did you see the poll today where I'm leading Clinton?

Nobody watches CNN, MSNBC, or reads NYT and Washington Post. They're failing broke institutions nobody follows. But this powerful media machine is colluding with the elites and the establishment to destroy our movement!

All sexual abuse victims should be believed! But do not believe mine! They're all horrible, horrible people."
 
Perspective said:
Cliff Notes version of Trump's speech today:

"The polls are all wrong. I don't believe them. But did you see the poll today where I'm leading Clinton?

Nobody watches CNN, MSNBC, or reads NYT and Washington Post. They're failing broke institutions nobody follows. But this powerful media machine is colluding with the elites and the establishment to destroy our movement!

All sexual abuse victims should be believed! But do not believe mine! They're all horrible, horrible people."
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Awesome summary ;D
 
ugh.. both candidates are horrible.  Trump is a doof.. and HRC the less of the two evils.. which isn't sayin much.  WE really need a legit third independent party.
 
Conspiracy Theory:

Democrats actually backed Trump to make him the Republican lead knowing it would all blow up eventually.

#wagthedog
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Conspiracy Theory:

Democrats actually backed Trump to make him the Republican lead knowing it would all blow up eventually.

#wagthedog
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That's plausible, unlike most conspiracy theories. The problem is, the theory doesn't benefit Trump:

"Crooked Hillary, the disgusting media, and her Establishment friends, all colluded to ensure a non-serious unqualified despicable Republican would win the party's nomination, so that Crooked Hillary could easily win the White House in a landslide."
 
l know the narrative is set but i really think people dont care about this as much as we are told.

GOOGLE TRENDS SHOWS INTERNET USERS FAR MORE INTERESTED IN WIKILEAKS THAN TRUMP ALLEGATIONS

A Google Trends graph shows that Internet users are vastly more interested in Wikileaks releases than allegations about Donald Trump that have been given blanket coverage by the mainstream media.
The graph illustrates how even on the day the infamous ?Trump tape? was released, Google searches for Wikileaks were still significantly higher.
Wikileaks has been releasing emails from the John Podesta hack on a daily basis and on every single day, Google searches for Wikileaks have been higher than those pertaining to new allegations made against Trump.
The whistleblower organization commented on the trend, tweeting, ?US mainstream media are completely out of sync with audience demand.?
The graph underscores the fact that the media is following an agenda to smear Trump, even to the detriment of their own audience.

http://www.infowars.com/google-trends-shows-internet-users-far-more-interested-in-wikileaks-than-trump-allegations/

White House Watch: No Sign of Allegations Fallout Yet

At the close of a week that began with him trailing by seven points, Donald Trump still holds a slight lead over Hillary Clinton in today?s White House Watch survey despite a flurry of news reports alleging a history of sexual harassment on his part.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters shows Trump with 43% support to Clinton?s 41%. That?s unchanged from yesterday. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson picks up six percent (6%) of vote, and Green Party nominee Jill Stein has two percent (2%) backing. Four percent (4%) like another candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct14
 
You're referencing one national poll, ignoring all other data, polls, and electoral college math. This is a very Republican thing to do - very similar to Trump and his surrogates telling us they're going to win the election because their rallies are well attended and Clinton's are not.
 
We shall surely see in short order. I have said since the start of Trumps run that he significantly under polls. His candidacy now depends on that.  Its been my experience, (and i deal with people all over the country), that most are hesitant to admit publicly that they are voting for this guy.  However, Quite a few privately say they will. We will find out if its enough in a few weeks.
 
morekaos said:
We shall surely see in short order. I have said since the start of Trumps run that he significantly under polls. His candidacy now depends on that.  Its been my experience, (and i deal with people all over the country), that most are hesitant to admit publicly that they are voting for this guy.  However, Quite a few privately say they will. We will find out if its enough in a few weeks.
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Now you're using anecdotes to prove dozens of scientific polls by many different pollsters are wrong.
 
As i have said from the start, i observe from the sidelines. My vote is irrelevant.  However, i make a living going against the grain of accepted public opinion. It's a cynical way of life, but it pays the bills. I always find myself on the underdog side of the field.  Data is fungible commodity. Garbage in yields garbage out. To me this has been endlessly entertaining but just an exercise in argument.
 
I personally think the Trump campaign is over and Hillary will be president as she's the lesser of the two evils, just curious, what are people's thoughts on the Wikileaks from  private emails?

1) Do you trust the authenticity of WikiLeaks?  People say they have 10 years of pristine history
2) Thoughts on her being more favorable to free trade and to banks?
3) Clinton spokesman seems anti-Catholic, anti-Christian perhaps
4) in a paid speech in front of banks, admitted to being "kind of far removed" from the middle class

 
SoclosetoIrvine said:
I personally think the Trump campaign is over and Hillary will be president as she's the lesser of the two evils, just curious, what are people's thoughts on the Wikileaks from  private emails?

1) Do you trust the authenticity of WikiLeaks?  People say they have 10 years of pristine history
2) Thoughts on her being more favorable to free trade and to banks?
3) Clinton spokesman seems anti-Catholic, anti-Christian perhaps
4) in a paid speech in front of banks, admitted to being "kind of far removed" from the middle class
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1 No way to know unless confirmed by another source
2 I didn't think the day would come were conservatives would deride liberal economic policies (as in, embracing free trade)
3 I agree that Catholicism is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion in the USA. Does that also make me anti-Catholic?
4 Anyone in a household with a net worth > $10mil is most definitely far removed from the Middle Class
 
morekaos said:
As i have said from the start, i observe from the sidelines. My vote is irrelevant.  However, i make a living going against the grain of accepted public opinion. It's a cynical way of life, but it pays the bills. I always find myself on the underdog side of the field.  Data is fungible commodity. Garbage in yields garbage out. To me this has been endlessly entertaining but just an exercise in argument.
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Understood. Anecdotally, most folks I know understand their vote in CA doesn't really matter, and will un-enthusiastically vote for Clinton, if for no other reason than to vote "No" to Trump.

I only know two people who share that they'll vote for Trump, and they're both over-enthusiastic about it, to the point where it's not unfair to call it rage.
 
It is probably useless but to me the best way to send a message that you don't like either candidate is to vote for one of the other two.

But I don't think that's an option if you're registered to one of the two parties (?).
 
irvinehomeowner said:
It is probably useless but to me the best way to send a message that you don't like either candidate is to vote for one of the other two.

But I don't think that's an option if you're registered to one of the two parties (?).
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1. You have to be registered to vote
2. You can vote for anyone in the general election

 
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