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eyephone said:
Looks like Hillary won the debate.

More like Trump keeps losing them.

At this point, it looks like HRC is going to win the election... anyone undecided or even a Trump supporter who watched these debates have to realize that he is ill-equipped to become the next prez.

I get that many of you may be voting by party lines, but if you think people hated America when Bush was prez... it's going to be exponential with Big League in charge.

#movingtoCanada
 
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
Looks like Hillary won the debate.

How could he possibly think calling Clinton a "nasty woman" was a good idea?

It's not only that, the big issue is his repsonse accepting the election outcome. His other comments: bad hombres, no you're the puppet.

Seems like Clinton was a lot more prepared for the debate.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
eyephone said:
Looks like Hillary won the debate.

I get that many of you may be voting by party lines, but if you think people hated America when Bush was prez... it's going to be exponential with Big League in charge.

#movingtoCanada

Maybe you can start a talk Canada or something when you move there.  ;)

 
eyephone said:
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
Looks like Hillary won the debate.

How could he possibly think calling Clinton a "nasty woman" was a good idea?

It's not only that, the big issue is his repsonse accepting the election outcome. His other comments: bad hombres, no you're the puppet.

Seems like Clinton was a lot more prepared for the debate.

Right, but most of it seemed like Trump doin' Trump Unshackled. Interrupting Clinton to call her a "nasty woman" was a bit surprising, even for Trump, considering his negatives with women.
 
eyephone said:
It's not only that, the big issue is his repsonse accepting the election outcome. His other comments: bad hombres, no you're the puppet.

Seems like Clinton was a lot more prepared for the debate.
Exactly why does it matter whether he accepts the outcome?

Perspective said:
Right, but most of it seemed like Trump doin' Trump Unshackled. Interrupting Clinton to call her a "nasty woman" was a bit surprising, even for Trump, considering his negatives with women.
It seemed deserved so maybe, maybe not.  She lied about him and threw insults as well, they were just more subtle.  I'd say that his comments were not polite, but defintely Trumplike. 

He's equal opportunity with his insults.  Though they pretend otherwise.

He insults a white man, they just call him a bully.
He then uses the same type of insult on a minority, and they dishonestly call him a racist.
He then uses the same type of insult on a woman, and they dishonestly call him a misogynist.

Probably more accurate to just to call him a rude asshole.
 
It doesn't technically matter whether Trump accepts the outcome of this election. The problem is millions of poorly educated/informed Americans will be voting for him, and all of their friends and family too, and they believe the many lies Trump keeps repeating. Democracies only work if we understand and trust the legitimacy of the process and results. This is why everyone, even most folks in Trump's camp, are aghast at his "rigged election" schtick coupled with his refusal to concede the election should he lose.

When Trump called Clinton a "nasty woman," she was discussing SSI and increased payroll taxes on "the wealthy." She joked that Trump might find a way "to get out of it." Is that a lie? Trump has told us he knows the tax code better than anyone (even better than every tax attorney in the US!), and that he's smart to avoid taxes. I don't know why this comment baited him so well, as it seems accurate and tame. It certainly wasn't a "lie."

What difference do the labels ascribed by "them" make, when Trump insults white men, non-white folks, and women?
 
An effective method to evaluate whether something is being said based primarily upon the gender, race, sexual preference, etc. of a person, is asking whether the comment would be made generically.

Would Trump have called Clinton a "nasty man" if she were a man?

Would Trump have championed the birther movement if Obama were a white man?

Would Trump use illegal immigration as his principal campaign issue if the illegal immigrants were from Scandinavian countries?
 
Perspective said:
An effective method to evaluate whether something is being said based primarily upon the gender, race, sexual preference, etc., is asking whether the comment would be made generically.

Would Trump have called Clinton a "nasty man" if she were a man?

Would Trump have championed the birther movement if Obama were a white man?

Would Trump use illegal immigration as his principal campaign issue if the illegal immigrants were from Scandinavian countries?

By chance did you see Trump get booed at the charity event?
 
eyephone said:
Perspective said:
An effective method to evaluate whether something is being said based primarily upon the gender, race, sexual preference, etc., is asking whether the comment would be made generically.

Would Trump have called Clinton a "nasty man" if she were a man?

Would Trump have championed the birther movement if Obama were a white man?

Would Trump use illegal immigration as his principal campaign issue if the illegal immigrants were from Scandinavian countries?

By chance did you see Trump get booed at the charity event?

Saw highlights - Dodger game took precedence. Sounds like they both deviated from decorum by attacking each other, but as usual, Trump took it much further beyond the line and was booed more for doing so.
 
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
Perspective said:
An effective method to evaluate whether something is being said based primarily upon the gender, race, sexual preference, etc., is asking whether the comment would be made generically.

Would Trump have called Clinton a "nasty man" if she were a man?

Would Trump have championed the birther movement if Obama were a white man?

Would Trump use illegal immigration as his principal campaign issue if the illegal immigrants were from Scandinavian countries?

By chance did you see Trump get booed at the charity event?

Saw highlights - Dodger game took precedence. Sounds like they both deviated from decorum by attacking each other, but as usual, Trump took it much further beyond the line and was booed more for doing so.

It was almost like the 4th debate.

#unbelievable
 
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
Perspective said:
An effective method to evaluate whether something is being said based primarily upon the gender, race, sexual preference, etc., is asking whether the comment would be made generically.

Would Trump have called Clinton a "nasty man" if she were a man?

Would Trump have championed the birther movement if Obama were a white man?

Would Trump use illegal immigration as his principal campaign issue if the illegal immigrants were from Scandinavian countries?

By chance did you see Trump get booed at the charity event?

Saw highlights - Dodger game took precedence. Sounds like they both deviated from decorum by attacking each other, but as usual, Trump took it much further beyond the line and was booed more for doing so.

He brought up calling Hillary a nasty woman, at the charity event.

?Last night, I called Hillary ?a nasty woman.? But this stuff is all relative,? he said. ?After listening to Hillary rattle on and on and on, I don't think so badly of Rosie O'Donnell anymore. In fact I'm actually starting to like Rosie a lot.?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-trade-jokes-al-smith/story?id=42947939

My comment: this definately doesn't help with the women voters


 
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