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My thoughts are, both candidates are old and obese (30%+ above their ideal weight), and therefore health is a concern. It makes the VP choice and the type of cabinet members they'd assemble even more crucial.
 
That's not even her ;)

Does Hillary have a BODY DOUBLE? Bizarre conspiracy theory claims the pneumonia-stricken candidate has been replaced by a lookalike


Hillary Clinton had a 'medical episode' at 9/11 memorial ceremony
Conspiracy theorists think she was replaced with a body double
They claim photos show physical differences in Clinton after the incident
Clinton apparently emerged from daughter's house 'with bigger earlobes' 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3787428/Does-Hillary-BODY-DOUBLE-Bizarre-conspiracy-theory-claims-pneumonia-stricken-candidate-replaced-lookalike.html

 
I didn't know Hilary had all these medical conditions...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...theorists-penchant-privacy-gets-scrutiny.html

Three blood clots, a concussion, deep vein thrombosis: Hillary's shielded medical history is no longer just for conspiracy theorists as her 'penchant for privacy' gets serious scrutiny

-Clinton suffered her first blood clot in 1998 while she was First Lady and experienced a second incident in 2009

-She suffered a concussion after falling in her home in 2013 near the end of her tenure as secretary of state

-Her doctors say she has deep vein thrombosis, which can lead to clotting in leg veins

-She suffered a blood clot in her brain in December 2011 and takes blood thinners to treat her condition

-She has been diagnosed with hypothyroidism
Broke her elbow, as spokesman warned it would crimp her texting

-Clinton collapsed when she left a 9/11 ceremony early on Sunday. Her office finally revealed she has pneumonia



 
I didn't know until recently that Trump has early stage Alzheimer's caused by his chronic use of phentermine over the last few decades. This totally explains his erratic behavior, disregard for social norms and impaired vocabulary.
 
hmmmm...go figure...

A visit to Trump's headquarters in Long Beach's Cambodia Town, of all places, produces some surprises

Two men walked in together to offer their help. One was African American, the other Mexican American. Next in the door were a couple of millennials, Filipino brothers in their 20s, and one of them said Trump makes sense but the media twist everything he says. Only after that did two middle-aged white people join the party.

It was as if the whole thing had been staged, in Cambodia Town, no less, to belie the notion that Trump?s appeal is largely limited to older white males.

The volunteers were all well-spoken in their support of Trump on social, domestic and policy issues, or their disdain for and lack of trust in Clinton, though to be honest I disagreed on this and that.

The African American, Austin Jones, said social programs going back to LBJ?s Great Society created communities of dependency.

Well, maybe, but didn?t racism, housing discrimination and job discrimination have something to do with the creation of two Americas?

The Mexican American, who told me not to use his name, said ?there are too many illegals here ? and they dirty the place up and they take jobs and do things they shouldn?t.?

At one point, he turned to me and said he wasn?t clear on who I was. When I clarified that I was with the L.A. Times, he stood up and left, saying on his way out that ?the only thing the Times is any good for is to wrap fish in it.?

Mainstream media can?t be trusted, several others agreed, because of a leftist lean. I asked what constitutes mainstream media. Aren?t AM radio talk shows, Fox News, Wall Street Journal editorials, and countless newspapers that lean to the right in their conservative states all part of mainstream media?

I didn?t get much of a response. But CNN is definitely liberal, everyone agreed.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0914-lopez-trump-longbeach-20160913-snap-story.html
 
morekaos said:
hmmmm...go figure...

A visit to Trump's headquarters in Long Beach's Cambodia Town, of all places, produces some surprises

Two men walked in together to offer their help. One was African American, the other Mexican American. Next in the door were a couple of millennials, Filipino brothers in their 20s, and one of them said Trump makes sense but the media twist everything he says. Only after that did two middle-aged white people join the party.

It was as if the whole thing had been staged, in Cambodia Town, no less, to belie the notion that Trump?s appeal is largely limited to older white males.

The volunteers were all well-spoken in their support of Trump on social, domestic and policy issues, or their disdain for and lack of trust in Clinton, though to be honest I disagreed on this and that.

The African American, Austin Jones, said social programs going back to LBJ?s Great Society created communities of dependency.

Well, maybe, but didn?t racism, housing discrimination and job discrimination have something to do with the creation of two Americas?

The Mexican American, who told me not to use his name, said ?there are too many illegals here ? and they dirty the place up and they take jobs and do things they shouldn?t.?

At one point, he turned to me and said he wasn?t clear on who I was. When I clarified that I was with the L.A. Times, he stood up and left, saying on his way out that ?the only thing the Times is any good for is to wrap fish in it.?

Mainstream media can?t be trusted, several others agreed, because of a leftist lean. I asked what constitutes mainstream media. Aren?t AM radio talk shows, Fox News, Wall Street Journal editorials, and countless newspapers that lean to the right in their conservative states all part of mainstream media?

I didn?t get much of a response. But CNN is definitely liberal, everyone agreed.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-0914-lopez-trump-longbeach-20160913-snap-story.html


But wait a minute, I said. Didn?t Trump say he?d raise the roof on tariffs, and doesn?t that mean jobs could be lost, prices could soar, and tariffs might be imposed on American goods shipped overseas?
Fultheim thought briefly and said:
?I don?t know what Trump wants to do, OK??


;D ;D ;D ;D



 
Perspective said:
Let's not confuse national polls with probability of winning the electoral college and therefore becoming President. The latter is still showing a ~74% chance Clinton would be the next President, if the election were held today.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Trump's probability has doubled from ~13% a couple weeks ago to ~26% today! I'm guessing his low energy odd photo op with the Mexican President yesterday, followed immediately by his HIGH energy bombastic contradictory speech in AZ last night might cause his poll numbers some pain.

No confusion  at all... clear trend in place. If that was a stock chart, I'd buy it.
 
morekaos said:
Perspective said:
Let's not confuse national polls with probability of winning the electoral college and therefore becoming President. The latter is still showing a ~74% chance Clinton would be the next President, if the election were held today.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Trump's probability has doubled from ~13% a couple weeks ago to ~26% today! I'm guessing his low energy odd photo op with the Mexican President yesterday, followed immediately by his HIGH energy bombastic contradictory speech in AZ last night might cause his poll numbers some pain.

No confusion  at all... clear trend in place. If that was a stock chart, I'd buy it.

Nate Silver: Trump surges from 3% to 48% chance of winning

The latest vote projection from elections guru Nate Silver has Republican Donald Trump just six electoral votes short of winning and one point away from equaling Hillary Clinton's popular vote.

The newest Five Thirty Eight survey Trump at 264 and Clinton at 272, two more than needed. It's the closest in recent weeks.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nate-silver-trump-surges-from-3-to-48-chance-of-winning-in-1-month/article/2602386

 
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
Perspective said:

Is that good or bad?

If you support Trump, you don't care. Nothing he says nor does, will diminish your support. If you think Trump is despicable, this is just one more feather, of thousands, filling the hat.

From your article...

"Palm Beach agreed to waive those fines ? if Trump?s club made a $100,000 donation to a specific charity for veterans"

"In another case, court papers say one of Trump?s golf courses in New York agreed to settle a lawsuit by making a donation to the plaintiff?s chosen charity. A $158,000 donation was made by the Trump Foundation,"

So what? A foundation makes a donation to vet charities...this is not enriching anyone like the Clinton foundation slush fund spending $7 million on travel expenses and private jet rides.
 
morekaos said:
morekaos said:
Perspective said:
Let's not confuse national polls with probability of winning the electoral college and therefore becoming President. The latter is still showing a ~74% chance Clinton would be the next President, if the election were held today.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Trump's probability has doubled from ~13% a couple weeks ago to ~26% today! I'm guessing his low energy odd photo op with the Mexican President yesterday, followed immediately by his HIGH energy bombastic contradictory speech in AZ last night might cause his poll numbers some pain.

No confusion  at all... clear trend in place. If that was a stock chart, I'd buy it.

Nate Silver: Trump surges from 3% to 48% chance of winning

The latest vote projection from elections guru Nate Silver has Republican Donald Trump just six electoral votes short of winning and one point away from equaling Hillary Clinton's popular vote.

The newest Five Thirty Eight survey Trump at 264 and Clinton at 272, two more than needed. It's the closest in recent weeks.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nate-silver-trump-surges-from-3-to-48-chance-of-winning-in-1-month/article/2602386

Why not link 538 directly?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast


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morekaos said:
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
Perspective said:

Is that good or bad?

If you support Trump, you don't care. Nothing he says nor does, will diminish your support. If you think Trump is despicable, this is just one more feather, of thousands, filling the hat.

From your article...

"Palm Beach agreed to waive those fines ? if Trump?s club made a $100,000 donation to a specific charity for veterans"

"In another case, court papers say one of Trump?s golf courses in New York agreed to settle a lawsuit by making a donation to the plaintiff?s chosen charity. A $158,000 donation was made by the Trump Foundation,"

So what? A foundation makes a donation to vet charities...this is not enriching anyone like the Clinton foundation slush fund spending $7 million on travel expenses and private jet rides.

I "think" the issue is the for profit entity and non for profit entity. The trump foundation is a 501c3. A non for profit entity should not pay for legal expenses for a for profit entity.

Bloomberg BNA http://www.bna.com/trump-foundation-skirting-n57982077343/
 
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