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morekaos said:
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
Perspective said:
Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...c88f9c-7d11-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html
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Is that good or bad?
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If you support Trump, you don't care. Nothing he says nor does, will diminish your support. If you think Trump is despicable, this is just one more feather, of thousands, filling the hat.
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From your article...

"Palm Beach agreed to waive those fines ? if Trump?s club made a $100,000 donation to a specific charity for veterans"

"In another case, court papers say one of Trump?s golf courses in New York agreed to settle a lawsuit by making a donation to the plaintiff?s chosen charity. A $158,000 donation was made by the Trump Foundation,"

So what? A foundation makes a donation to vet charities...this is not enriching anyone like the Clinton foundation slush fund spending $7 million on travel expenses and private jet rides.
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Is this a serious question, or are you trolling? Read the article.
 
Probably true. As i said prevoiosly....

"We live in Cali so if you are Republican your vote in a national election is pointless.  I could vote for Jesus Christ himself and my candidate would lose in this state.  Now locally my vote matters but on the national level this is all theater to me.  I vote on the national level because it gives me the right to bitch.  Other than that I love the show, I watch from the audience."

I actually am more uptight about voting down the 5 new taxes on our ballot. 
 
morekaos said:
Probably true. As i said prevoiosly....

"We live in Cali so if you are Republican your vote in a national election is pointless.  I could vote for Jesus Christ himself and my candidate would lose in this state.  Now locally my vote matters but on the national level this is all theater to me.  I vote on the national level because it gives me the right to bitch.  Other than that I love the show, I watch from the audience."

I actually am more uptight about voting down the 5 new taxes on our ballot. 
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Right. It's not hyperbole to say we live in a high tax state (CA), and I vote against most local/state tax increases too.
 
But its fun to talk about!  This is the most engaged election period... Trump or Hillary...that cant be a bad thing.
 
Strong emotions, particularly anger, have been show to a negatively impact decision making and increase the likelihood the person doubles down on a failing option.

I was looking at 270towin.com this morning.  Seems like the map is going backwards with more States turning grey toss up than clearing up.
 
Does it matter what the polls say? How are those polls taken? Phone calls? Who answers those calls? Older people who still have landlines?

As long as a candidate leads in electoral votes, these polls have no bearing (unless it's poling electoral votes).

Most of the sites have HRC leading by a good margin in electoral "polls", and the Dems killed the GOP in the last 2 elections, so it doesn't bode well for Trump.

While I don't like either candidate (and am a conservative independent), HRC is better optically than Trump... who wants a clown in the White House? :)
 
Perspective said:
morekaos said:
Probably true. As i said prevoiosly....

"We live in Cali so if you are Republican your vote in a national election is pointless.  I could vote for Jesus Christ himself and my candidate would lose in this state.  Now locally my vote matters but on the national level this is all theater to me.  I vote on the national level because it gives me the right to bitch.  Other than that I love the show, I watch from the audience."

I actually am more uptight about voting down the 5 new taxes on our ballot. 
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Right. It's not hyperbole to say we live in a high tax state (CA), and I vote against most local/state tax increases too.
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What are your thoughts on free cell phones and service?

 
irvinehomeowner said:
Does it matter what the polls say? How are those polls taken? Phone calls? Who answers those calls? Older people who still have landlines?

As long as a candidate leads in electoral votes, these polls have no bearing (unless it's poling electoral votes).

Most of the sites have HRC leading by a good margin in electoral "polls", and the Dems killed the GOP in the last 2 elections, so it doesn't bode well for Trump.

While I don't like either candidate (and am a conservative independent), HRC is better optically than Trump... who wants a clown in the White House? :)
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Agreed, but not just optically. Trump is an extreme wild card. He behaves like a pre-teen, following and responding to every perceived slight thrown his way.

Unless Clinton wins in a landslide, turning multiple Senate and Congressional seats blue, she won't be able to do the things she's proposing. In other words, if you lean right, it's hard to envision a scenario where Clinton lurches the US leftward.

Clinton's biggest effect would likely be SCOTUS appointments. I lean heavily left on social issues (right on fiscal issues), so I'd welcome this.
 
Perspective said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Does it matter what the polls say? How are those polls taken? Phone calls? Who answers those calls? Older people who still have landlines?

As long as a candidate leads in electoral votes, these polls have no bearing (unless it's poling electoral votes).

Most of the sites have HRC leading by a good margin in electoral "polls", and the Dems killed the GOP in the last 2 elections, so it doesn't bode well for Trump.

While I don't like either candidate (and am a conservative independent), HRC is better optically than Trump... who wants a clown in the White House? :)
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Agreed, but not just optically. Trump is an extreme wild card. He behaves like a pre-teen, following and responding to every perceived slight thrown his way.

Unless Clinton wins in a landslide, turning multiple Senate and Congressional seats blue, she won't be able to do the things she's proposing. In other words, if you lean right, it's hard to envision a scenario where Clinton lurches the US leftward.

Clinton's biggest effect would likely be SCOTUS appointments. I lean heavily left on social issues (right on fiscal issues), so I'd welcome this.
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What are your thoughts regarding Carlos?
 
Even if Trump is president, there are still 2 other branches of government to keep him in check.

It will just make the US look silly having him say "You're Fired" at UN conferences.

Bush was kind of embarrassing at times, and Bill's scandalous lifestyle was pretty bad (although his was more publicized than other presidents)... so I guess I'm not totally opposed to Trump as prez just because of the comedy it will generate for the next 4 years... late night shows and comedians will have infinite material.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Even if Trump is president, there are still 2 other branches of government to keep him in check.
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Senate is at 50/50 odds for which party will be in control. Congress stays red. Chris Christy will be Trump's SCOTUS nominee and probably get rubberstamped.

 
irvinehomeowner said:
Does it matter what the polls say? How are those polls taken? Phone calls? Who answers those calls? Older people who still have landlines?

As long as a candidate leads in electoral votes, these polls have no bearing (unless it's poling electoral votes).

Most of the sites have HRC leading by a good margin in electoral "polls", and the Dems killed the GOP in the last 2 elections, so it doesn't bode well for Trump.

While I don't like either candidate (and am a conservative independent), HRC is better optically than Trump... who wants a clown in the White House? :)
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Being ahead doesn't matter, being over 269 matters.

Hillary Clinton isn't.  More importantly, the number of electoral votes she has solidly wrapped up is DECREASING.  I'm not a Hillary fan and I don't want Trump to be President. I do think Hillary would be a better President than Trump, in a four more years of status quo way.

Hillary supporters, IMHO, are increasingly acting like the Rightwing babbleheads when Romney ran and not seeing the problems and challenges their candidate is having, IMHO.

They've locked on to Trump supporters are bigots, racists, "deplorables", uneducated 'hick' whites, etc.

Maybe Monday the whole thing changes.  Trump may shoot his mouth off and make everybody gasp.  Hillary could make Trump look like an idiot.  Trump could turn experience matters on Hillary, one or the other could sweat like Nixon.

 
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