CalBears96
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Uneducated Trump voters don't understand that American consumers are the ones paying tariffs, not China.
Tariffs = sales taxes.
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Tariffs = sales taxes.
But there's a difference between Trump's tariffs and Biden's: "I had tariffs and almost no inflation," Trump said on Tuesday night.And that's mostly true: Around 2019, inflation did rise slightly above the Fed's target rate, but it was still under 3 percent. Inflation hit a high of 2.9 percent in June 2018, the first few months after the China tariffs began. But then in June 2019, the 12-month rolling inflation rate fell to 1.9 percent. When COVID-19 hit,
But Trump's record speaks for itself. In March 2023, the International Trade Commission did a model study on steel tariffs and China tariffs. They found that tariffs led to more investment and production domestically and shifts in supply chains out of China. And where prices did rise on around 12 items the report looked at, import prices rose roughly 10 percent of the tariff price. That means a 20 percent tariff on $100 may have increased the import price not by $20, but by $2.
The truth is, most of us are seeing price increases in things we don't import—insurance and internet, streaming services, and food. That's where your $4,000 is going.
Don't believe the spin of the global economists Harris is quoing. Tariffs will be great for the middle class.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/news/content/ar-AA1qoGMA?ocid=sapphireappshare
Although it's original meaning was not intended to be considered to be about any people group - Canadians for example - over time, on this site, it clearly does intend to be about one single group.
Interesting to see posts about higher prices with higher tariffs. One should see that demonstrated in a higher inflation rate - something that did not happen during The Reign of Terror (2016-2020)
Another post by a different writer talks about "lunacy" of Trump's lies, but when unequivocal evidence is presented there is the same "that's more lunacy and "lies" retort. What a world to live in - when subjective truth overrules objective truth.
Here's a compilation of Kamala's actual policies - pre flip flops - 100 percent in her own words. I wonder if any future responses will say "oh, that's selective editing" or some other thin dismissal of hard to accept fact. See how many of these positions you agree with:
www.breitbart.com
@morekaos is correct. No amount of dead pixels is going to keep Temu Grade Mao from winning California. It's as certain as the sun rising in the East and setting in the West - unless one considers that to be an alternative fact as well.
Then ask yourself this simple question: "Who will, without doubt, decrease the flow of illegal immigrants/migrants/aliens?". You really have only one choice. The alternative is turning the "migrant" flow to 11. You know this to be the truth about this issue.
Trumps biggest problem is that he want to be President to help himself first. If it helps the country...then...that's cool. Whoo Boyee. That's a whopper. Any idea what The Tang Menace has spent on fighting political lawfare? Any idea what his net worth has shrunk by since 2016? I saw a judge just this week say that a 2018 lawsuit by environmental groups about a Trump Chicago property has to pay $$$ for damage to fish and wild life. Do you honestly think this suit came out of real harm, or because anything to go after the Orange Bad Man is good for the nation?
Speaking of bowing down to their King, did you vote for Kween Kamala in the primary? No? She was installed, not voted in, as if by Divine Right of Succession. Calling The Tang Menace a "King" is rich in comparison to how Kamala has been placed in a position of power by.....not you, not me, not anyone but people in Washington DC. That's where the American Monarchy thrives today. Don't believe me? How did we get two Bush Presidencies, and almost two Clinton Presidencies, but by a class system you and I are not a part of.
Also: I would prefer Trump to just say immigrants... why does he have to to point out country of origin or race?
Because that's who is imperiling the citizens of Springfield Ohio - Haitians. Don't varnish the truth with code words. Speak plainly, even if it is difficult. If there were 78,000 new Ukrainians/Algerians/Costa Ricans/or Tasmanians', you'd say "Dang, that bunch of Ukrainians are messing things up at my kids school", not "Dang, that bunch of Immigrants are messing things up at my kids school". You'd be pissed, and rightly so.
And you're missing my point... the policy is illegal immigration, by pointing out a specific group and then assigning "pet eating" to that group is not productive at all and muddies the point. It's fear mongering, racist and foil hatting... but... why would I expect Trump to be smart about that, but I think you would... hence why I revoked your voting card.
Enough republican voters across the US like so called "loudmouth conman" enough that he secured three Republican presidential nominations. Now that's democracy in action.
Trump prioritizes Trump. That's it. Trump doesn't give a shit about kids and family. Trump doesn't give a shit about anything but Trump.
Tariffs = sales taxes.
morekaos
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It’s the Uninformed public not uneducated Trump supporters (I happen to have a degree in economics from UCLA) who don’t understand the truth….
Sorry, Kamala: Trump's Tariffs Aren't a Tax. They're a Lifeline for the Middle Class
But there's a difference between Trump's tariffs and Biden's: "I had tariffs and almost no inflation," Trump said on Tuesday night.And that's mostly true: Around 2019, inflation did rise slightly above the Fed's target rate, but it was still under 3 percent. Inflation hit a high of 2.9 percent in June 2018, the first few months after the China tariffs began. But then in June 2019, the 12-month rolling inflation rate fell to 1.9 percent. When COVID-19 hit,
But Trump's record speaks for itself. In March 2023, the International Trade Commission did a model study on steel tariffs and China tariffs. They found that tariffs led to more investment and production domestically and shifts in supply chains out of China. And where prices did rise on around 12 items the report looked at, import prices rose roughly 10 percent of the tariff price. That means a 20 percent tariff on $100 may have increased the import price not by $20, but by $2.
The truth is, most of us are seeing price increases in things we don't import—insurance and internet, streaming services, and food. That's where your $4,000 is going.
Don't believe the spin of the global economists Harris is quoing. Tariffs will be great for the middle class.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/news/content/ar-AA1qoGMA?ocid=sapphireappshare
morekaos
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kackala has locked up the 12-17 year old girl demo…congrats
…she’s still doomed!!
it’s still the economy, stupid
We're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before, and we've gotten to see what they would do, and when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office. The economy was better. Inflation was lower. Things were better overall. And now, with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic. She's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I don't know if I can afford to take that risk.
conservativebrief.com
Later in the broadcast, Chalian showed the result when debate-watchers were asked whom they trusted more on the economy, Trump or Harris, and found that although Trump led Harris by 16 points before the debate, 53%-37%, after the debate, Trump’s lead soared to 20%, 55%-35%.
…she’s still doomed!! it’s still the economy, stupidUndecided Pennsylvania Voter: We're Voting For The Future Of Our Country, Not The Candidate We Want At Our Wedding
UNDECIDED PENNSYLVANIA VOTER: It's important to remember that we are voting for the future of our country, not who we like the most or want at our wedding party. Who is actually going to make our country better?We're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before, and we've gotten to see what they would do, and when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office. The economy was better. Inflation was lower. Things were better overall. And now, with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic. She's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I don't know if I can afford to take that risk.
Bad News Strikes Vice President Kamala Harris Immediately After Debate Against Donald Trump - Report Shows That Undecided Voters Pick Trump Post-Debate
This is a big deal.
conservativebrief.com
Later in the broadcast, Chalian showed the result when debate-watchers were asked whom they trusted more on the economy, Trump or Harris, and found that although Trump led Harris by 16 points before the debate, 53%-37%, after the debate, Trump’s lead soared to 20%, 55%-35%.
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sgip
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Did not know that you coined the term FCB. Well done, sincerely.
Although it's original meaning was not intended to be considered to be about any people group - Canadians for example - over time, on this site, it clearly does intend to be about one single group.
Interesting to see posts about higher prices with higher tariffs. One should see that demonstrated in a higher inflation rate - something that did not happen during The Reign of Terror (2016-2020)
Another post by a different writer talks about "lunacy" of Trump's lies, but when unequivocal evidence is presented there is the same "that's more lunacy and "lies" retort. What a world to live in - when subjective truth overrules objective truth.
Here's a compilation of Kamala's actual policies - pre flip flops - 100 percent in her own words. I wonder if any future responses will say "oh, that's selective editing" or some other thin dismissal of hard to accept fact. See how many of these positions you agree with:
Everything You Need to Know About Kamala in Her Own Words in One Place
Kamala Harris has given a single televised interview and no press conferences since becoming the Democrats’ nominee for president. Given the establishment media’s unprecedented blocking, tackling, and gaslighting (including the 9/10 debate), we’ve assembled over 100 videos of Kamala Harris in...
www.breitbart.com
@morekaos is correct. No amount of dead pixels is going to keep Temu Grade Mao from winning California. It's as certain as the sun rising in the East and setting in the West - unless one considers that to be an alternative fact as well.
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sgip
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Let's take some genuine facts in this exercise and see where they take us...
Springfield Ohio's 2020 population was $60,000. In 3 years they have had 15,000 (low number) of Haitian's forcibly resettled in that town.
Irvine, CA in 2022 had a population of 313,000. Imagine if 78,000 Ukrainian/Algerian/ Costa Rican/Tasmanians (pick your people group) were forcibly relocated to Irvine.
In 2-3 year timespan of resettlement, would there be any negative impact to your schools, your streets, your safety? Assuming most are adult males between 18-25, how would employment, social services, crime rates be impacted? Would any of the gated communities open up their homes with spare bedrooms to these "refugees"?
It's not ray-cisst to point out the obvious. That many people flooding a small area will have an undeniably negative impact. Dear reader, do you believe otherwise? May I suggest you reach out to the various refugee resettlement NGO's to host 2-3 migrants.
Actions always speak louder than words.
Springfield Ohio's 2020 population was $60,000. In 3 years they have had 15,000 (low number) of Haitian's forcibly resettled in that town.
Irvine, CA in 2022 had a population of 313,000. Imagine if 78,000 Ukrainian/Algerian/ Costa Rican/Tasmanians (pick your people group) were forcibly relocated to Irvine.
In 2-3 year timespan of resettlement, would there be any negative impact to your schools, your streets, your safety? Assuming most are adult males between 18-25, how would employment, social services, crime rates be impacted? Would any of the gated communities open up their homes with spare bedrooms to these "refugees"?
It's not ray-cisst to point out the obvious. That many people flooding a small area will have an undeniably negative impact. Dear reader, do you believe otherwise? May I suggest you reach out to the various refugee resettlement NGO's to host 2-3 migrants.
Actions always speak louder than words.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
I would prefer Trump to just say immigrants... why does he have to to point out country of origin or race?
And your message is better than Trump's. Why hyperbole with alleged violence and pet eating which now because of his distinction of races, paints them in bad light. That's how racism starts. As I said... divisive.
That's why F means Foreign in FCB, and C means Cash... to indicate non-US money buyers (and not only in Irvine)... not a certain country/race.
The tricky things about economy and numbers is you really don't know whose policies actually affected what. How do we know that Trump's "good" economy wasn't because of Obama... or Biden's "bad" economy was due to Trump (or Covid). It's all one blob... and I still think that even if Trump won a 2nd term... inflation would be the same because it takes more than a president to pass policy.
So that's why character matters to me.
If the Reps had some other candidate than Trump... I would probably definitely vote for them... even moreso now because Kamala does seem like a flip-flopper to me.
I just can't put in a ballot for a president who constantly insults people, exaggerates and believes in conspiracy theories. And worse... the attempted insurrection of January 6.
And your message is better than Trump's. Why hyperbole with alleged violence and pet eating which now because of his distinction of races, paints them in bad light. That's how racism starts. As I said... divisive.
That's why F means Foreign in FCB, and C means Cash... to indicate non-US money buyers (and not only in Irvine)... not a certain country/race.
The tricky things about economy and numbers is you really don't know whose policies actually affected what. How do we know that Trump's "good" economy wasn't because of Obama... or Biden's "bad" economy was due to Trump (or Covid). It's all one blob... and I still think that even if Trump won a 2nd term... inflation would be the same because it takes more than a president to pass policy.
So that's why character matters to me.
If the Reps had some other candidate than Trump... I would probably definitely vote for them... even moreso now because Kamala does seem like a flip-flopper to me.
I just can't put in a ballot for a president who constantly insults people, exaggerates and believes in conspiracy theories. And worse... the attempted insurrection of January 6.
sgip
Well-known member
Then ask yourself this simple question: "Who will, without doubt, decrease the flow of illegal immigrants/migrants/aliens?". You really have only one choice. The alternative is turning the "migrant" flow to 11. You know this to be the truth about this issue.
Trumps biggest problem is that he want to be President to help himself first. If it helps the country...then...that's cool. Whoo Boyee. That's a whopper. Any idea what The Tang Menace has spent on fighting political lawfare? Any idea what his net worth has shrunk by since 2016? I saw a judge just this week say that a 2018 lawsuit by environmental groups about a Trump Chicago property has to pay $$$ for damage to fish and wild life. Do you honestly think this suit came out of real harm, or because anything to go after the Orange Bad Man is good for the nation?
Speaking of bowing down to their King, did you vote for Kween Kamala in the primary? No? She was installed, not voted in, as if by Divine Right of Succession. Calling The Tang Menace a "King" is rich in comparison to how Kamala has been placed in a position of power by.....not you, not me, not anyone but people in Washington DC. That's where the American Monarchy thrives today. Don't believe me? How did we get two Bush Presidencies, and almost two Clinton Presidencies, but by a class system you and I are not a part of.
Also: I would prefer Trump to just say immigrants... why does he have to to point out country of origin or race?
Because that's who is imperiling the citizens of Springfield Ohio - Haitians. Don't varnish the truth with code words. Speak plainly, even if it is difficult. If there were 78,000 new Ukrainians/Algerians/Costa Ricans/or Tasmanians', you'd say "Dang, that bunch of Ukrainians are messing things up at my kids school", not "Dang, that bunch of Immigrants are messing things up at my kids school". You'd be pissed, and rightly so.
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irvinehomeowner
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Sorry SGIP, I see this from the Reps so much and I think it's so dumb to bring up. Who cares? Reps kept saying Biden was unfit, and now that he's been replaced they are complaining how. I believe there are rules for this and they were followed. Much ado about nothing... esp if the situation were reversed... no one the Rep side would be complaining if Trump had to bow out and Reps got to "install" their candidate of choice.
And you're missing my point... the policy is illegal immigration, by pointing out a specific group and then assigning "pet eating" to that group is not productive at all and muddies the point. It's fear mongering, racist and foil hatting... but... why would I expect Trump to be smart about that, but I think you would... hence why I revoked your voting card.
sgip
Well-known member
It's unknown if the same thing happened on the R side if we would complain or not. Depends on the how. Someone in Pennsylvania came pretty close to making this happen, but since his aim was off, we will never know, will we?
If Kween Kamala wins the whole thing, you will get the Government you never would wish upon your sworn enemy. We've seen what a UniParty does here in Cali - ideas like $150k home loan subsidies for illegals, not citizens, reduced sentencing guidelines to keep prison costs low at the expense of public safety, keeping gender confused children's information statutorily hidden from their parents, race based quotas in school admissions, limitless illegal immigration, regularizing those already here (line jumping) over those who took the legal pathway to citizenship, a goal of watering down the Supreme Court - just as Roosevelt tried in the 1930's when he couldn't get his way, and other offenses to extreme to print here. If that's the world you wish to grant to your children, your friends, and your neighbors, so it will be. What seemed great for California will now be imposed on the nation.... because, as we know... "Orange Man Bad" and says mean things.
If Kween Kamala wins the whole thing, you will get the Government you never would wish upon your sworn enemy. We've seen what a UniParty does here in Cali - ideas like $150k home loan subsidies for illegals, not citizens, reduced sentencing guidelines to keep prison costs low at the expense of public safety, keeping gender confused children's information statutorily hidden from their parents, race based quotas in school admissions, limitless illegal immigration, regularizing those already here (line jumping) over those who took the legal pathway to citizenship, a goal of watering down the Supreme Court - just as Roosevelt tried in the 1930's when he couldn't get his way, and other offenses to extreme to print here. If that's the world you wish to grant to your children, your friends, and your neighbors, so it will be. What seemed great for California will now be imposed on the nation.... because, as we know... "Orange Man Bad" and says mean things.
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irvine buyer
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Establishment Republicans wanted DeSantis to be the nominee. Trump won the primary because Republican primary voters voted their choice. What R's didn't do is elbow Trump out during the primary like the D's did with Bernie Sanders. Yes there are rules but do you really believe people in DC don't know how to game the rules?
potsticker
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I'm voting for Trump. In the previous three elections, I voted for Obama, Clinton, and Biden. I don't like Trump as a person, but now that I have kids, the Dems agenda doesn't align with my values anymore. Kamala and the Dems are way too far to the left for my liking. I feel Trump and his administration will prioritize kids and family.
Putting the BS aside as neither candidate is very likable...Kamala doesn't have much of a policy on anything and a lot of Trump's policies actually make some sense.
Putting the BS aside as neither candidate is very likable...Kamala doesn't have much of a policy on anything and a lot of Trump's policies actually make some sense.
irvine buyer
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Not a very democratic process is it?
Enough republican voters across the US like so called "loudmouth conman" enough that he secured three Republican presidential nominations. Now that's democracy in action.
CalBears96
Well-known member
Trump prioritizes Trump. That's it. Trump doesn't give a shit about kids and family. Trump doesn't give a shit about anything but Trump.
irvine buyer
Active member
Democrat talking point. Look at Biden, who used his position in office to personally benefit his family to the tune of over $27 million. Biden prioritized Biden and his fellow Democrats are ok with it.
https://oversight.house.gov/release...-joe-biden-has-committed-impeachable-conduct/
Don't Democrat elite and their media allies keep repeating that no one is above the law? Maybe Biden's nickname is no one
https://oversight.house.gov/release...-joe-biden-has-committed-impeachable-conduct/
Don't Democrat elite and their media allies keep repeating that no one is above the law? Maybe Biden's nickname is no one
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irvinehomeowner
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Now I want Trump to lose so I can see how many excuses and conspiracies you all can come up with.