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I didn't realize that Trump was supposed to debate Harris and David Muir?! The biggest loser last night was ABC's credibility when it comes to unbiased coverage. They were so nakedly partisan that one pundit said it might actually work against Harris. Most Americans believe in fairness and if you recall the reaction to Hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time was not good. That Harris was able to respond so quickly to questions and with no word salad tells me she too got the questions ahead of time.

One pundit had an interesting take. While he thought Harris won the evening, he commented that Harris' debate prep seemed light on policy and heavy on how to make Trump look bad. So maybe the thinking is that if you make Trump look bad, her policies (or flip-flopping on policies) will not matter?

The question that nobody is asking is if Harris was treated the same way Trump was by the moderators, would she have done well? I think we all know the answer. Trump remained in the spin room for an hour after the debate and talked to many reporters. Harris was nowhere to be seen. Maybe Harris cannot perform well without pre-submitted questions; even with friendly media outlets.
 
Harris refused a 2nd debate on CBS, and a 3rd on Fox two weeks ago.

More flip flops from Temu Grade Mao.

Hmmm.... Wonder if we should start bulk ordering of flip flops and send them to the office of the Vice President.....
 

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The vice president performed better than the former president, but I highly doubt this will move the needle. Each side will claim victory. Let's get this election done so we can move forward.
 
It’s the economy (and immigration) stupid….👍🏽😂😂😂🇺🇸

CNN Poll: After Debate, Even More Voters Trust Trump On Economy


A CNN poll taken after the presidential debate between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris found that the percentage of voters who trust Trump more on the economy rose from +16% to +20%.

CNN’s Jake Tapper introduced the poll by saying to CNN political director David Chalian, “The first results of our instant poll of debate-watchers have just come in and David Chalian is going to join us now to break it all down. David, tell us more.”

“Yeah, Jake, and as you noted, this is a poll of debate watchers,” Chalian pointed out. “This is not a poll that represents the overall population, although in partisan breakdown it is pretty close to what the overall registered population looks like in the country.”

Later in the broadcast, Chalian showed the result when debate-watchers were asked whom they trusted more on the economy, Trump or Harris, and found that although Trump led Harris by 16 points before the debate, 53%-37%, after the debate, Trump’s lead soared to 20%, 55%-35%.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cnn-...email&utm_source=email&utm_content=newsletter
 
For those who are really interested in facts... lies on both sides:


The one that really hits me (worse than pet-eating) is abortion in the 9th month or after birth. C'mon... how ridiculous is that claim?

SGIP goes on about how only educated people should be allowed to vote... I posit that if only educated people would be allowed to vote... that would eliminate quite a bit of Trump's base because no one who is even half-educated would believe some of his hyperbole. Granted... Harris gets it wrong too... but the extent is crazy with Trump... in my opinion.
 
Oh and it did seem the moderators were biased but that's because they were fact checking Trump's most outrageous claims.

1. Pet eating.
2. Abortion after birth.
3. 2020 Election loss
4. Jan 6 (or as Trump bigly calls it... J6)

I already know the pro-Trump crowd thinks J6 was not what it was, that 2020 election was rigged so not a loss (even though investigations, the popular vote and electoral college say otherwise) and #1 is absolutely true (even Kevin Sorbo/Hercules says so) but show me the proof for #2?
 
For those who are really interested in facts... lies on both sides:


The one that really hits me (worse than pet-eating) is abortion in the 9th month or after birth. C'mon... how ridiculous is that claim?

SGIP goes on about how only educated people should be allowed to vote... I posit that if only educated people would be allowed to vote... that would eliminate quite a bit of Trump's base because no one who is even half-educated would believe some of his hyperbole. Granted... Harris gets it wrong too... but the extent is crazy with Trump... in my opinion.
Northams bill would allow the termination ex utero of a living child….

WashingtonCNN —
Virginia Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam is facing backlash after he voiced his support for a state measure that would significantly loosen restrictions on late-term abortions.

“So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”


 
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It happens more than you think…Trump was truthful…

Debate moderator fact-checks Trump on botched abortions, ignores eight babies who died in Minnesota​

However, in Walz’s state and on his watch, five infants were "born alive" in 2021 during failed abortions, and none was provided life-saving care though two got “comfort care,” the Minnesota Department of Health reported on July 1, 2022.

Three other infants were "born alive" during abortions in 2019, Walz’s first year as governor, and they too perished without life-saving care, according to a July 1, 2020, report from the same state agency.

 
2) 7 states have no time limits as to when you can terminate a pregnancy. You have to ask yourself why these laws exist if you never plan to use them. Also, Walz removed protections for newborn infants who survived an abortion, but also require significant medical assistance.

1) This 911 call seems authentic. The caller even had partial plates. Remember, most quickly dismissed news as being a "conspiracy theory" more often than not turn out to be true.

It's also no accident that 2,000 illegal immigrants were dumped in a Red State.
 
@sgip Really?

Still no proof of abortion "after" birth.

And late term abortions are very rare, could have extenuating circumstances and is not something anyone "wants".

What about the pets? Cats and dogs? The one cat case wasn't even an Haitian immigrant. Why does Trump have to slander entire groups of people. That is the divisiveness we don't need.

Your posts make me think you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
Abortion after a birth is a misspeak. The article @morekaos posted has the deets.

On this site "FCB" is often used to generalize about a specific population group. It's a minor slur, but a slur none the less.

I vote because I'm informed about policies, not personalities.

If people can't move past personality and focus on facts, then they get the government they deserve.
 
Actually since I coined the word, FCB is not specific because I've always said there are many non-US citizens who buy in Irvine. Not even just Asian.

So Trump misspeaks... Often... How do tarrifs not make goods more expensive? Mind boggling.
 
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