irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
Sorry... your online forum tactics don't work on me... you can throw out the trigger words like ad hominem but doesn't really mean anything to me.
You keep turning this into a political divide and you don't realize that my opinion doesn't fall along party lines. I did not want Clinton to win in 2016, doesn't mean I voted for Trump (my independent status allows me to do otherwise) so those same claims of election fraud I also dismissed. If you can't admit that Trump took it to another level in 2020, not sure what to tell you. He was already claiming fraud before the election, just like now. He is still vehemently holding on to his 2020 claims, whereas everyone else seems to have let prior elections go.
I always like when someone says well they weren't charge with X so it wasn't X. And then when they are charged the next thing is they won't be found guilty of X so it wasn't X. Then when they are found guilty it becomes it was an unfair trial, corrupt judge, whatever so not guilty of X (sound familiar @morekaos?),
Again, if it was the other way around, you would be claiming insurrection too. Don't lie... just admit your political bias is in play here.
Again, I'm independent and probably lean more right than anything, but what Trump did does not make him deserving of the office. Plain and simple. Is Biden or Harris any better? Who knows... it's not really a matter of them winning my vote, Trump lost mine.
And no... we have been talking about more than 2 things but at least you finally dropped the trailer truck theory that you couldn't prove.
And I realize this is like talking to a brick wall here... as I said, none of you will see the other side (although you did admit breaching capitol buildings was bad) so why do you even ask for counters that you will not listen to. It just doesn't make sense. It's a waste of everyone's time.
You keep turning this into a political divide and you don't realize that my opinion doesn't fall along party lines. I did not want Clinton to win in 2016, doesn't mean I voted for Trump (my independent status allows me to do otherwise) so those same claims of election fraud I also dismissed. If you can't admit that Trump took it to another level in 2020, not sure what to tell you. He was already claiming fraud before the election, just like now. He is still vehemently holding on to his 2020 claims, whereas everyone else seems to have let prior elections go.
I always like when someone says well they weren't charge with X so it wasn't X. And then when they are charged the next thing is they won't be found guilty of X so it wasn't X. Then when they are found guilty it becomes it was an unfair trial, corrupt judge, whatever so not guilty of X (sound familiar @morekaos?),
Again, if it was the other way around, you would be claiming insurrection too. Don't lie... just admit your political bias is in play here.
Again, I'm independent and probably lean more right than anything, but what Trump did does not make him deserving of the office. Plain and simple. Is Biden or Harris any better? Who knows... it's not really a matter of them winning my vote, Trump lost mine.
And no... we have been talking about more than 2 things but at least you finally dropped the trailer truck theory that you couldn't prove.
And I realize this is like talking to a brick wall here... as I said, none of you will see the other side (although you did admit breaching capitol buildings was bad) so why do you even ask for counters that you will not listen to. It just doesn't make sense. It's a waste of everyone's time.