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Harris' VP pick, Tim Walz, was arrested for doing 96 MPH while drunk.
The dirt keeps piling up on Timmy Tampons and his harlot partner who got where she is by sleeping with married politician, Willy Brown. What a pair of communists.
 
sgip said:
Illegally.

Registering to vote is simple. There are many organizations out there eager to help anyone register. No ID is needed in many states, so once you are registered,the door is wide open to do so. The State of Virginia just scrubbed many of the deceased voters, relocated voters, and about 6000 illegals off their voter rolls.
www.newsleader.com

Virginia Gov. Youngkin codifies election security measures that were already in place

Youngkin’s Executive Order 35 codifies the use of paper ballots in Virginia’s elections and is meant to ensure “noncitizens” are disqualified from voting.
www.newsleader.com

If you search on this subject you'll see screaming headlines about 3400 "legal voters" we're also purged but also later restored restored - as per the hard left Axios site
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/31/youngkin-virginia-voting-felons-restore-rights-election

I love how these un registered felons are described as likely Democrat voters by activists in the piece. The Tang Menace is a Democrat? News to me.
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Still on that election fraud? Cuts both ways right? And if I remember correctly, didn't the 2020 investigation end up being a Republican ballot stuffer?

C'mon SGIP, stop playing that song. We all know who was trying to "find" more votes in Georgia. :)
 
My Dude, you asked a short question and I answered it.

My thoughts on 2020 haven't changed. You can read them in earlier posts. I wasn't expressing them in my reply to you, but just in case....

There was stuffing, malicious ballot harvesting and plenty of shenanigans going on in 2020, but not enough to tip the scales. In my view it was universal mail on ballots that made it easier for low information Americans to vote in wide numbers. I don't believe "non- voters, AKA occasional voters" should vote, nor do I want ballot harvesting allowed anywhere. Voting is a privilege and something to take seriously. Like a drivers license, voter registration should be renewed every 4-5 years, and a photo ID needs to be presented when voting. Absentee Ballots should be requested, and processed by Election Day and not afterwards. Ballots should not sent to everyone on the voting rolls. The opportunity for trouble geometrically expands when this happens.

Button up the process and only let serious people vote. If that is upsetting to some, then become a serious person. Participate in the process every time. Know who your school board members are. Know the character of your D.A. (imagine electing a George Gascon in OC anyone???).

Make a few changes, all of them fair and equally protective, and perhaps finally this nation can get their election results in hours, not weeks.
 
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irvinehomeowner said:
Still on that election fraud? Cuts both ways right? And if I remember correctly, didn't the 2020 investigation end up being a Republican ballot stuffer?

C'mon SGIP, stop playing that song. We all know who was trying to "find" more votes in Georgia. :)
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One thing I have learned following politics …. watch what they do, not what they say.

During the 2020 election cycle, Mark Elias spearheaded the effort to sue states under the guise of COVID to weaken Voter ID laws and weaken existing protections for mail in ballots. Since the 2020 election, over 20 states introduced laws regarding Voter ID and mail in ballots to reverse these previous actions. Since then, Elias and his allies are back again suing these states to reverse these Voter ID and mail in ballot integrity laws that were passed since our last election.

Many experts have studied the 2020 elections and concluded that mail in ballots were a problematic area. The internal controls were not properly enforced in many states. Mail in ballots and ineligible voters on voter rolls continue to be ripe for taking advantage of.

The RNC and the Nevada Republican party just won a lawsuit requiring the Nevada SOS (a Democrat) to purge approx. 90,000 ineligible voters from their system. Why did it take a lawsuit, which one of Elias’ allies fought to dismiss, in order to get the SOS to clean up the voter rolls? Also, why aren’t these names being removed? Instead, the SOS is going to have these names marked “inactive” so these people do not receive a ballot automatically. Critics have said that is not enough as these 90,000 ineligible voters can still submit a ballot because they remain registered to vote.

A lawsuit was filed in Arizona by the Arizona Republican Party to force the SOS there (also a Democrat) to remove 500,000 ineligible voters from the voter rolls. Arizona was the only state where an election audit was conducted. That was the result of a hotly contested lawsuit that went all the way to the state Supreme Court. While a recount found several hundred more votes for Biden (widely reported), the audit also uncovered significant irregularities as well as large number of ineligible voters having voted (not widely reported). If there was no election fraud as widely claimed, why the resistance to an audit in the first place? If there are no plans to engage in any fraudulent activity in 2024, then why wouldn’t the SOS just clean up the voter rolls without necessitating a lawsuit? Keep in mind that Biden won Arizona by less than 12,000 votes.

As for as how illegals can vote, look to Biden’s executive order 14019. I can explain in a separate response if you can’t figure it out.
 
I'm just giving you a hard time SGIP. I agree with you on principle about making voting an informed decision.

But Starman's insinuation of using illegals to tip the scales is outlandish. And isn't they why we use the electoral college system, to help minimize popular vote fraud?
 
StarmanMBA said:
Explain to everyone reading this how you "pay more in taxes" after a "tax cut."
We're all ears, Mister Democrat.
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Are you trolling or do you not really understand the difference between tax brackets (which is what you posted) and effective tax rate. Do you really not know about SALT?

The brackets were marginally lowered for upper middle class people, but the removal of the SALT deduction made Californians in upper middle class bracket pay more in federal taxes.

I'm not a democrat, I'm just pointing out the irony of Trump enacting more progressive tax policies than any democrats tax changes in my lifetime.

Also do you really have an MBA :ROFLMAO:
 
Kalapa said:
Trump is losing it. When he’s not lying about helicopter rides with people that never happened, he’s inventing more lies about Harris using AI to fake crowd size? LOL His advisors are begging him to pivot towards policy, but he is so undisciplined.

As expected, he is panicking and running to his base for help. If Trump told MAGA to keep Trump brand stacks of cow manure in the home, they would go out and do it. Then create an entire justification rationale structure behind it.

This is just going to bleed more votes from the center. What a weirdo.

Facts:

* Trump was complaining about rigged elections in 2016 when he thought he would lose
* His own Homeland Security Cybersecurity chief called 2020 the most secure election in history
* He tried to overthrow the government in a violent coup and failed
* He lost 60+ court cases claiming fraud in the 2020 election

You can’t respect the results of an election only when you win


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Let's focus on your "fact" that Trump lost 60+ cases claiming fraud; since you highlighted it.

https://electioncases.osu.edu/case-...e_asc&keywords=&status=all&state=all&topic=25

The above is from Ohio State. Of the 58 lawsuits relating to the 2020 elections, only 15 were filed by Trump or his campaign. Not all the lawsuits are relating to fraud. Care to tell me where you got that "fact" from?
 
apnews.com

Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud

WASHINGTON (AP) — Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S.
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AG Barr said no significant election interference during 2020 voting.
Trump lost in 2020.

Ivanka Trump said she accepted Barr's conclusion that the 2020 election wasn't stolen​


The guy can't lose properly so he is un electable. He hates America.
 
zubs said:
apnews.com

Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud

WASHINGTON (AP) — Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S.
apnews.com apnews.com

AG Barr said no significant election interference during 2020 voting.
Trump lost in 2020.

Ivanka Trump said she accepted Barr's conclusion that the 2020 election wasn't stolen​


The guy can't lose properly so he is un electable. He hates America.
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The same Bill Barr that refused to investigate possible election fraud? I recall two instances but there are more that currently escape my memory:

1. Remember the tractor trailer filled with tens of thousands of completed ballots going from New York to Pennsylvania? Bill McSwaine, the US Attorney for the Eastern District of PA, wanted to investigate that. Barr told McSwaine to stop that investigation.
2. Larry Keefe, US Attorney for Northern District of Florida, wanted to investigate reports that Andrew Gillum was involved in election fraud. Barr ordered Keefe to shut down that investigation.

Jeff Clark had requested both Keefe and McSwaine to testify in his lawsuit but Biden's DOJ blocked both requests and the presiding judge sided with the DOJ. Watch what they do, not what they say.
 
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The same Bill Barr who was selected by Trump and bent over backwards for him during his service.
And the daughter who said she agreed with Barr.
They are both in Trumps team. Why would they lie?
Did Trump pick the wrong AG?
Why did Ivanka turn on daddy?

There was no tractor trailer full of ballots. It was a con like Trump.

AG Barr could not prosecute because there was no proof 2020 was stolen and unlike Trump, Barr has to follow the law.
VP Pence also had to follow the law and certify the results for a Biden win.

When it comes down to it, someone like Turmp can talk all the shit he wants, but if he was under oath, he would go to jail for his lies.
Why do you believe in anything coming out of his mouth? You know he's a con man and so does Ivanka and the rest of his cabinet.
 
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Why do you believe anything that comes out of any of these morons mouths? I’ve said it 100 times… I think they are ALL crooks and thieves and self interested egotists…Trump may be no better…but he’s no worse…. .My guys just tote a line I like better.😂😂😂😂👍🏽🍻🇺🇸
 
zubs said:
The same Bill Barr who was selected by Trump and bent over backwards for him during his service.
And the daughter who said she agreed with Barr.
They are both in Trumps team. Why would they lie?
Did Trump pick the wrong AG?
Why did Ivanka turn on daddy?

There was no tractor trailer full of ballots. It was a con like Trump.

AG Barr could not prosecute because there was no proof 2020 was stolen and unlike Trump, Barr has to follow the law.
VP Pence also had to follow the law and certify the results for a Biden win.

When it comes down to it, someone like Turmp can talk all the shit he wants, but if he was under oath, he would go to jail for his lies.
Why do you believe in anything coming out of his mouth? You know he's a con man and so does Ivanka and the rest of his cabinet.
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When you state there was no tractor trailer full of ballots, are you stating a fact or are you merely expressing your opinion?
 
morekaos said:
Why do you believe anything that comes out of any of these morons mouths? I’ve said it 100 times… I think they are ALL crooks and thieves and self interested egotists…Trump may be no better…but he’s no worse…. .My guys just tote a line I like better.😂😂😂😂👍🏽🍻🇺🇸
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Amazing the amount of ignorance and arrogance coming out of some people.
 
irvine buyer said:
Amazing the amount of ignorance and arrogance coming out of some people.
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Just being real. To think ones candidate really is honest, forthright and chaste is just a lie…all politicians are lying self interested egotists. Trump gets my job done though so he gets my support, so did Bush, Dole and even Reagan but be honest…they were all flawed men..I go for my own self interested policy…the vessels are really all the same🤷🏽‍♂️😂😂🇺🇸
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Wasn't this just paper waste? Simple Google says so.
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https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/what-happened-to-jesse-morgan-trailer/2020/12/03

Read the article. Driver described them as completed ballots. I recall that McSwaine and another guy were trying to get Jesse Morgan whistleblower protection when Barr ordered the investigation to be stopped.

Many media outlets tried to discredit Morgan and even go so far as to claim that he was paid by the Republican party (talk about conspiracy theories), but there is a sworn affidavit signed by Morgan stating what is in the article. In fact, there were many sworn affidavits regarding election irregularities in many states that were never investigated. Plausible deniability seemed to be the strategy.
 
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You should check multiple sources. From what I saw there were multiple video and images showing they were not completed ballots.

We see what we want to see.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
You should check multiple sources. From what I saw there were multiple video and images showing they were not completed ballots.

We see what we want to see.
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Would you be so kind as to provide a link to these videos and images you have seen. I have searched multiple ways using Google and do not see a single video or image showing the contents inside the trailer.

Common sense would have it that no such video or image exists unless it was taken when the trailer was picked up. I await your link.
 
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I doubt you will believe anything I find (morekaos always says the facts aren't really facts when it's contrary to *his* facts) but here you go:

www.politifact.com

No, these aren’t “shredded” ballot applications for Trump

Clips of a video inside the back of a tractor-trailer are being falsely used on social media to stoke a fear that people
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com

Obviously, your Baltimore Post link comes up when I search for "trailer full of ballots fact check" but that's what I mean when you have to read more than one or two articles.

This came up again in 2022 and it was again debunked:

www.politifact.com

Claims of huge transfer of fraudulent ballots are False

Recent Facebook posts sow doubt about next month’s midterm elections by relying on old misinformation from the 2020 pres
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And a list of other false claims about election fraud:


Again, it's much easier to spread misinformation than it is to actually check facts because conspiracies are viral by nature.

Just like people still believe we did not land on the moon or that 9/11 was planned by the US.
 
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