President Trump

[Perspective]

I'd like to see more peaceful protests.  Love to see people stand up against people like that but leave the demolition team at home.

We Need To Talk About Punching Nazishttp://abovethelaw.com/2017/02/we-need-to-talk-about-punching-nazis/

 

[Perspective]

From the President's speech at National Prayer breakfast.

"I tell you that from somebody that has had material success and knows tremendous numbers of people with great material success, the most material success. Many of those people are very, very miserable, unhappy people.
And I know a lot of people without that, but they have great families. They have great faith; they don't have money, at least, not nearly to the extent. And they're happy. Those, to me, are the successful people, I have to tell you."

Share the part where he attacks one of his many enemies at a prayer breakfast.

I know you love talking points and wants him to fail. Pretty obvious. I don't know why in a million years anyone who loves the country wants our President to fail. We all heard many negative things that he said, that's old news. This is a nice, heart-warming change.

"Old news"? It's a near hourly event. I was referring to something that he said today.

Thanks for the ad hominem, by the way.

 

[Movingup]

Thanks for the ad hominem, by the way.

I am glad to apologize if I am wrong. So, you want President Trump to succeed and he is your President?

 

[Perspective]

Thanks for the ad hominem, by the way.

I am glad to apologize if I am wrong. So, you want President Trump to succeed and he is your President?

Regardless of what I "want," instead of addressing the issue, you attacked me. It's an all too common tactic, worthless, nonetheless.

 

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Thanks for the ad hominem, by the way.

I am glad to apologize if I am wrong. So, you want President Trump to succeed and he is your President?

Regardless of what "want," instead of addressing the issue, you attacked me. It's an all too common tactic, worthless, nonetheless.

I am not attacking you, my friend. I am stating the facts based on your posts. Unless, I messed up which I said I am glad to apologize.

So, do you want the President to succeed?

 

[Perspective]

Thanks for the ad hominem, by the way.

I am glad to apologize if I am wrong. So, you want President Trump to succeed and he is your President?

Regardless of what "want," instead of addressing the issue, you attacked me. It's an all too common tactic, worthless, nonetheless.

I am not attacking you, my friend. I am stating the facts based on your posts. Unless, I messed up which I said I am glad to apologize.

So, do you want the President to succeed?

Define "succeed"?

 

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Define "succeed"?

#MAGA. More/better jobs for Americans, better GDP, lower corporate taxes, simplify tax codes, secure our border, keep criminals away, defeat ISIS/terrorists, better healthcare for all, uphold our constitution. It's what Trump has been talking about for more than a year.

 

[Perspective]

Define "succeed"?

#MAGA. More/better jobs for Americans, better GDP, lower corporate taxes, simplify tax codes, secure our border, keep criminals away, defeat ISIS/terrorists, better healthcare for all, uphold our constitution. It's what Trump has been talking about for more than a year.

Sure, everyone wants every American willing to work to have a decent well paying job. Nobody argues otherwise. It's how you get there (policy) that is the question. The border issue is a demagogue scapegoating Mexicans, but sure, I'm not opposed to securing it better. Cost is the only question. "Uphold our Constitution"? You'll have to help me with that one. That is a loaded phrase.

I do not want Trump to "succeed" in repealing Dodd-Frank.

I do not want Trump to "succeed" in appointing SCOTUS Justices who think we must, much less actually can, delve into the minds of the framers to determine what they thought they meant when they wrote Constitutional language; nor do I want SCOTUS Justices who wish to impose upon others what they believe to be their God's rules.

I do not want Trump to ?succeed? in severely curtailing immigration.

However, I do want Trump to ?succeed? in radical income tax reform, both individual and corporate, severely limiting deductions, credits, and exemptions in exchange for lower marginal rates.

I don?t care too much if Trump ?succeeds? in repealing the Affordable Care Act. I had healthcare coverage for my family before, and I?ll have it after. My taxes will decline a decent amount. Who cares about those less fortunate lower income sick folk, right?

 

[peppy]

Define "succeed"?

#MAGA. More/better jobs for Americans, better GDP, lower corporate taxes, simplify tax codes, secure our border, keep criminals away, defeat ISIS/terrorists, better healthcare for all, uphold our constitution. It's what Trump has been talking about for more than a year.

How do you feel about substantially adding to the national deficit?

 

[Perspective]

Define "succeed"?

#MAGA. More/better jobs for Americans, better GDP, lower corporate taxes, simplify tax codes, secure our border, keep criminals away, defeat ISIS/terrorists, better healthcare for all, uphold our constitution. It's what Trump has been talking about for more than a year.

How do you feel about substantially adding to the national deficit?

The answer solely depends on the party holding POTUS at the moment...

 

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Sure, everyone wants every American willing to work to have a decent well paying job. Nobody argues otherwise. It's how you get there (policy) that is the question. The border issue is a demagogue scapegoating Mexicans, but sure, I'm not opposed to securing it better. Cost is the only question. "Uphold our Constitution"? You'll have to help me with that one. That is a loaded phrase.

I do not want Trump to "succeed" in repealing Dodd-Frank.

I do not want Trump to "succeed" in appointing SCOTUS Justices who think we must, much less actually can, delve into the minds of the framers to determine what they thought they meant when they wrote Constitutional language; nor do I want SCOTUS Justices who wish to impose their God's beliefs on others.

I do not want Trump to ?succeed? in severely curtailing immigration.

However, I do want Trump to ?succeed? in radical income tax reform, both individual and corporate, severely limiting deductions, credits, and exemptions in exchange for lower marginal rates.

I don?t care too much if Trump ?succeeds? in repealing the Affordable Care Act. I had healthcare coverage for my family before, and I?ll have it after. My taxes will decline a decent amount. Who cares about those less fortunate sick folk, right?

That's a lot of stuff. But thank you for clarifying you are not here to create chaos. Even though, I think the constant fighting, obstruction, Trump is a bad dude no matter what he does rhetoric is totally unproductive IMO.

There are a lot of ways to achieve the end goal. While I think many people may disagree what Trump's approach, the fact is our country is not prosperous and strong in the past 8 years. Washington's gridlock and Obama progressive ideology jam through the throats of many Americans.

Obama believes the government should take over everything and he is against Wall Street. Reforming regulations to allow businesses to have more flexibility expanding is a good thing. What exactly is the details, I don't know. But less government control is a good thing.

So, you don't want SCOTUS to uphold the Constitution and laws of our founding fathers? The laws should be made/interpreted by whatever we believe? Really? So, it is okay with you if someone wants to marry a dog? No Justices are imposing their God's beliefs as far as I know. Not sure what you are referring to.

What is Trump doing on immigration. He is protecting Americans from terrorists and criminals.

You don't want a better healthcare, more choices to see doctors, less doctors wasting time to fight frivolous lawsuits, lower premiums and your doctor actually happy to see you? Just because you are not paying high premiums or deductibles doesn't mean it is a good healthcare system for all Americans. A lot of people and their taxes are paying to cover the uninsured and low income citizens. Obamacare is essentially an income redistribution. 

 

[Perspective]

Trump isn't just a ?bad dude,? he's a despicable human being, and it's not at all hyperbolic to begin labeling him a fascist. This isn't really debatable. His words and acts are self-evident.

I'm not a partisan. I am very socially liberal and moderately fiscally conservative. I was okay with Obama winning in 2004 and I would've been fine with Romney winning in 2008.

You?re succumbing to political rhetoric. Was the US ?prosperous and strong the past eight years?? That?s a complex question. I wouldn?t use such a generalization to conclude one way or the other.

You moved from typical rhetoric to right wing propaganda ? ?Obama believes government should take over everything.? If Obama is ?against Wall Street,? wasn?t Trump also on the campaign trail? Whether ?less government control? is a ?good thing,? depends on the context.

The Constitution provides a framework, but it?s a living breathing document because times change, people change, cultures change, technology changes, etc. Religion permeates many Constitutional issues today: abortion, marriage, contraception requirements in healthcare plans, etc.

Healthcare is a complicated mess. Obama tried to fix some issues. It wasn?t perfect before ACA. It?s not perfect now. It won?t be perfect after this Congress makes changes. This isn?t my industry, and I don?t have the solution; but I certainly don?t demonize ACA. Healthcare premiums were rising well above inflation before ACA.

Is income redistribution bad? Does it depend on the scale? Are we all born in the US with equal opportunity? Does a non-white short heavy less attractive female born into a low income family/neighborhood have the same opportunities to succeed as a white tall thin attractive male born into a high income family/neighborhood?

 

[Happiness]

Does the King of Trolls understand it's the state the Constitution restricts from limiting free speech? Rhetorical question. We know the answer.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...reat-could-hit-prestigious-energy-lab-funding

I'm certain the King of Trolls would vomit on Twitter similar objections and threats if students at the University of Mississippi prevented a radical Islamic speaker, right?

Let's be clear that the Berkeley "protest" was a full blown armed RIOT complete with looting, vandalism, arson, and all the other goodies.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/02/01/berkeley-braces-for-protests-at-yiannopoulos-talk/

I'm sure the Liberal elitists are sitting back and enjoying the mayhem their minions are causing but, I can't imagine the violence will help their cause in the long run.

 

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Is income redistribution bad? Does it depend on the scale? Are we all born in the US with equal opportunity? Does a non-white short heavy less attractive female born into a low income family/neighborhood have the same opportunities to succeed as a white tall thin attractive male born into a high income family/neighborhood?

I don't have time to respond everything. But it seems like you are for socialism. I will just tell you that everyone can succeed and happy in America, short, fat, tall, beauty queen, minorities, immigrant, whatever. It's your work ethic, motivation and attitude in life. Not everyone is going to be multimillionaire or billionaire. But you can be happy when you don't have all the materials. Please read Trump's speech at the National Prayer breakfast.

God bless you and God bless America.

 

[peppy]

Is income redistribution bad? Does it depend on the scale? Are we all born in the US with equal opportunity? Does a non-white short heavy less attractive female born into a low income family/neighborhood have the same opportunities to succeed as a white tall thin attractive male born into a high income family/neighborhood?

I don't have time to respond everything. But it seems like you are for socialism. I will just tell you that everyone can succeed and happy in America, short, fat, tall, beauty queen, minorities, immigrant, whatever. It's your work ethic, motivation and attitude in life. Not everyone is going to be multimillionaire or billionaire. But you can be happy when you don't have all the materials. Please read Trump's speech at the National Prayer breakfast.

God bless you and God bless America.

You should listen to this ...

http://www.wnyc.org/story/rags-riches/

 

[Perspective]

Is income redistribution bad? Does it depend on the scale? Are we all born in the US with equal opportunity? Does a non-white short heavy less attractive female born into a low income family/neighborhood have the same opportunities to succeed as a white tall thin attractive male born into a high income family/neighborhood?

I don't have time to respond everything. But it seems like you are for socialism. I will just tell you that everyone can succeed and happy in America, short, fat, tall, beauty queen, minorities, immigrant, whatever. It's your work ethic, motivation and attitude in life. Not everyone is going to be multimillionaire or billionaire. But you can be happy when you don't have all the materials. Please read Trump's speech at the National Prayer breakfast.

God bless you and God bless America.

You define "socialism" as you understand it, and I'll tell you if I support it, but I already shared that I'm fairly fiscally conservative. So that seems to contradict your observation.

Statistics, history, and facts, prove physical attributes and especially the education and income of the household in which you're raised, are very strong predictors of the financial success you'll achieve over your lifetime. The only question is, what, if anything, should we do to ameliorate these issues.

 

[fortune11]

Is income redistribution bad? Does it depend on the scale? Are we all born in the US with equal opportunity? Does a non-white short heavy less attractive female born into a low income family/neighborhood have the same opportunities to succeed as a white tall thin attractive male born into a high income family/neighborhood?

I don't have time to respond everything. But it seems like you are for socialism. I will just tell you that everyone can succeed and happy in America, short, fat, tall, beauty queen, minorities, immigrant, whatever. It's your work ethic, motivation and attitude in life. Not everyone is going to be multimillionaire or billionaire. But you can be happy when you don't have all the materials. Please read Trump's speech at the National Prayer breakfast.

God bless you and God bless America.

You define "socialism" as you understand it, and I'll tell you if I support it, but I already shared that I'm fairly fiscally conservative. So that seems to contradict your observation.

Statistics, history, and facts, prove physical attributes and especially the education and income of the household in which you're raised, are very strong predictors of the financial success you'll achieve over your lifetime. The only question is, what, if anything, should we do to ameliorate these issues.

Perspective -- You are trying to argue with facts and statistics which is logical but then this election and people's belief in trump is not about logic - it is about belief .

there is some hope (even if misplaced, we will find out and I am keeping an open mind here) , some sense of vengeance (hey we can finally put people in their place) and some sense of rationalization that tax cuts and supreme court justify any level of debauchery and corruption . 

the fact is for those who are hitherto privileged , they are used to a certain order of things, and having newcomers have a seat at the table feels like discrimination.  yes , everyone is equal and should be,  but there is no denying that a male child born to rich wasp parents with wall street connections has multiple times the opportunity set than the daughter of a lower middle class single mother struggling to afford childcare to keep multiple jobs to make ends meet . 

this applies to even those readers of this forum whose parents / grandparents immigrated from Asia - their forefathers struggles paved the way for them to buy their comfortable lifestyle and get that management job which was reserved , until not many decades ago , for people who looked and talked a certain way .

yes , everyone can be be successful and happy if they want to be , but why do some people begrudge lending the less fortunate a nudge, or a helping hand along the way  - it is peanuts in terms of % of govt spending compared to the monstosities that medicare and social security have become . 

 

[Perspective]

So long as someone isn't completely trolling nonsense, I'll engage. Logic, reason, and facts always win in the long run. Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others. Every poorly educated poorly informed American can vote, and they do, especially when a demagogue populist makes outlandish promises to them.

 

[Perspective]

Trump's a hard dude to figure out. He demands women be thin and degrades those who aren't, yet he's fat. He demands women dress well, yet he wears suits at least two sizes too big, never buttons his coat, and wears big fat ties way too long. He demands women be pretty and degrades those who aren't, yet he is orange with a massive combover and comb-forward with a mullet to boot. He's from a privileged family and educated at Penn (not Wharton), yet speaks like a poorly educated person and says the dumbest things. Go figure...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-white-house-female-003238530.html

 

[sgip]

A little lemon juice on your paper cut? Yes Please!

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/invalid-votes-for-president-spike-in-florida-outnumbering-trumps-margin-of/2311755

If you don't want to click through - 161k purposely invalid joke votes (Mickey Mouse, Beyonc?) were more than the 113k vote margin of victory for the Tang Menace. Had people not fooled around in Flori-duh, we'd be arguing over who the first female president's supreme court pick would have been

YOW! That stings...

My .02c