Orchard Hills Housing Construction Underway...

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Even though I'm a Chicagoan- i am not that much into stuffed pizza because I'd look like that picture you posted- but for my favorites, I'd pick:

Stuffed: Bacino's, then Giordano's
Pan: Lou Malnotti's
Chicago thin (thicker than NY): Aurelio's or Pizano's

People also like Ranalli's, Connie's, Nancy's, Home Run Inn Pizza
 
Tyler Durden said:
iacrenter said:
The quest for the holy grail of Unicorn Land has begun. Let the speculation begin:

1) Recycled iPac floor plans + ?outside builders for the larger 4K sqft/$2M homes
2) Higher pricing ~$500sqft?
3) High MR+HOA
4) Typical TIC amenities (not on the level of Woodbury)
5) Guard gates (at least the initial phase gate is already built)
6) Some view lots
7) ?Lower density/more detached traditional SFH products
8)School district will be TUSD (at least for initial phase along the 261), later phases east of Culver will probably be zoned to IUSD.

Considering the price point of $2M+, it will have features that appeal to buyers at that price point, vs. the features built into communities at lower price points.

I'm not convinced the starting price for ALL the homes will be $2M. I have a feeling TIC will have a similar mix to Laguna Altura and use the same premium pricing strategy for the same iPac homes designs.

If I had to speculate, you would probably have to compare it more to Crystal Cove at the same price point or Turtle Ridge than to compare it to Woodbury.

Crystal Cove has direct ocean views and proximity to the beach-- that is the main draw/amenity for the community. Turtle Ridge has significant elevation advantage compared to OH and would command better pricing. OH doesn't have much in terms of inherent location advantage and I would compare it more to Lambert Ranch.
 
I agree with iacrenter.  OH will be mixed housing for sure.  It's too big an area for just big SFRs.  There will definitely be high dollar luxury homes, but motorcourt and attached properties also.  I'm thinking it'll be very similar to Woodbury and Quail Hill.  I wonder if OH will offer a super premium product, along the lines of semi-custom on big lots.  This would be awesome, but doubtful.  As of now, I'm just hoping they'll let a great builder like TNHC offer something unique.

iacrenter said:
Tyler Durden said:
iacrenter said:
The quest for the holy grail of Unicorn Land has begun. Let the speculation begin:

1) Recycled iPac floor plans + ?outside builders for the larger 4K sqft/$2M homes
2) Higher pricing ~$500sqft?
3) High MR+HOA
4) Typical TIC amenities (not on the level of Woodbury)
5) Guard gates (at least the initial phase gate is already built)
6) Some view lots
7) ?Lower density/more detached traditional SFH products
8)School district will be TUSD (at least for initial phase along the 261), later phases east of Culver will probably be zoned to IUSD.

Considering the price point of $2M+, it will have features that appeal to buyers at that price point, vs. the features built into communities at lower price points.

I'm not convinced the starting price for ALL the homes will be $2M. I have a feeling TIC will have a similar mix to Laguna Altura and use the same premium pricing strategy for the same iPac homes designs.

If I had to speculate, you would probably have to compare it more to Crystal Cove at the same price point or Turtle Ridge than to compare it to Woodbury.

Crystal Cove has direct ocean views and proximity to the beach-- that is the main draw/amenity for the community. Turtle Ridge has significant elevation advantage compared to OH and would command better pricing. OH doesn't have much in terms of inherent location advantage and I would compare it more to Lambert Ranch.
 
The highest-end offering from TIC in recent years was Laguna Altura, and they didn't do that well. It seems like leaving money on the table to focus on the lower-end market in Irvine, given that it seems the most profit can be made are from the high-end buyers. That said, I'm fine with TIC leaving the high end homes to TNHC and other builders.

I also wouldn't rely on the old maps of OH to figure what the new OH will look like. If you look at old lot maps of Portola Springs, for example, the new area being developed currently next door to Lambert Ranch is completely different from what the lot layout was. I suspect that similar changes have been made to the OH lot map.

bones said:
If you look at the OH map, there's some areas that aren't conducive to $2m+ homes so I agree that there will be a mix of products offered. Plus irvine pacific is owning the $700k to $1m new house market right now. They are only letting outside builders build the $1m+ products in stonegate and woodbury so I have a feeling they will want to continue to capitalize on what they perceive to be their strong suit in OH.
 
@TD

how reliable is your $2million starting price source?  If true, I'm gonna fold then... Can't imagine working to support that much house...  Plus I can end up with some mainlander neighbors frying fish and spitting in my driveway...:)
 
Don't forget cigarette butts and his loud cellphone conversation with his mother during China time.

ps9 said:
@TD

how reliable is your $2million starting price source?  If true, I'm gonna fold then... Can't imagine working to support that much house...  Plus I can end up with some mainlander neighbors frying fish and spitting in my driveway...:)
 
Didn't someone here tell me that TIC doesn't stop building?

Seems like they did with Orchard Hills.... or was that a 7-year ramp-up?
 
bones said:
Are there dates associated with the "dusting off". Not a subscriber. Thanks!
Spring 2014:
As the economic nightmares of the Great Recession fade from the psyche, some vestiges of that previous go-go real estate era are snapping back to life.

The Irvine Co. is dusting off its plans for the Orchard Hills neighborhood, a north Irvine hillside enclave of new homes that will have a decidedly luxury edge.

When the company shelved its grand plans in 2007 ? as the real estate market collapse gained its downward spin ? all that had been built of Orchard Hills off Irvine Boulevard near Culver was a shopping center, apartments and an elementary school.

It's now more than three years into what proved to be a brilliantly timed construction gamble by Irvine Co. billionaire owner Don Bren ? and just about the time everybody else is joining the party. The giant developer is restarting Orchard Hills with plans for a spring 2014 launch with 12 distinct communities ? and a massive grand opening featuring 35 model homes.

This initial phase will include slightly more than 1,000 townhouses and single-family homes, from modestly midmarket to well-pointed upscale. The company will start assembling an interest list as soon as Tuesday.

?We thought it was time,? said Tom Veal, the Irvine Co.'s homebuilding marketing vice president.

While the Irvine Co. is still finishing the details, the company does say that the first wave of homes at Orchard Hills will be split into two neighborhoods. Each will have roughly 500 homes. In front of the gate, so to speak, will be the more ?affordable? homes. In those communities, to the east of Culver closer to Northwood High School, residences will run from the $600,000s to just above $1 million.

Behind the gate, on land primarily to the west of Culver, homes will have price tags into the $2 million ballpark. This will be the first significant mass sale of top-end housing by the Irvine Co. ? if not in the entire county ? in the real estate rebound.

This bet on the upper-crust buyer certainly says a lot about the current oomph in housing ? especially from the builder who made the first huge, and correct, bet on the end of the real estate slump.

Veal describes today's homebuying market as ?phenomenal,? with more of the Irvine Co.'s current communities nearing sell out. The company says it's sold 1,094 homes this year through Sept. 12 ? up 19 percent in a year. The builder has sold 4,380 homes since restarting construction in early 2010, a sales rush that includes the recent final sales at the 597-home Laguna Altura community, cut into the foothills south of the 405 just off Laguna Canyon Road.

It's not just the Irvine Co. enjoying a rush of buyers. Overall, builders in Orange County have sold 1,945 homes in the first eight months of 2013, according to DataQuick Information Systems. That's up 78 percent vs. 2012 ? and is the busiest sales pace since 2007.
Veal says that if current fast-selling conditions hold ? and the Irvine Co. believes they will ? the developer will likely have a shortage of homes to sell as Orchard Hills comes to market.

One of the appeals of Orchard Hills will be its topography. This is unlike the building that the Irvine Co. primarily has done in the flatlands of the north Irvine basin since 2010 in and around Sand Canyon. Homes in Orchard Hills will be nestled in the rising foothills.

The structures will sit in an avocado grove. The recession-delayed construction means the landscaping will be mature, 6-year-old growth, giving a lush feel to the new streets. Veal says the new-home architecture will be equal to the setting.
?It's going to be something very different than we've done before,? Veal says.

It's hard to say that Orange County homebuilding is totally back when sales are half the pace of the past quarter century ? but tract-size construction of luxury homes in the foothills certainly feels like another signal of recovery.
 
In front of the gate, so to speak, will be the more ?affordable? homes. In those communities, to the east of Culver closer to Northwood High School, residences will run from the $600,000s to just above $1 million.

Behind the gate, on land primarily to the west of Culver, homes will have price tags into the $2 million ballpark.

So the riff raff homes will be assigned to IUSD while the high end homes TUSD.  Interesting.

 
Thanks for posting the story IHO.  Definitely interested in a SFR at OH.  Man, I hope TIC does this neighborhood right.
 
test said:
In front of the gate, so to speak, will be the more ?affordable? homes. In those communities, to the east of Culver closer to Northwood High School, residences will run from the $600,000s to just above $1 million.

Behind the gate, on land primarily to the west of Culver, homes will have price tags into the $2 million ballpark.

So the riff raff homes will be assigned to IUSD while the high end homes TUSD.  Interesting.
In that area, the schools are equivalent.  But, ignorant people might just assume schools are better in IUSD vs TUSD.
 
OCgasman said:
test said:
In front of the gate, so to speak, will be the more ?affordable? homes. In those communities, to the east of Culver closer to Northwood High School, residences will run from the $600,000s to just above $1 million.

Behind the gate, on land primarily to the west of Culver, homes will have price tags into the $2 million ballpark.

So the riff raff homes will be assigned to IUSD while the high end homes TUSD.  Interesting.
In that area, the schools are equivalent.  But, ignorant people might just assume schools are better in IUSD vs TUSD.

It doesn't matter if the schools are similar. Perception is reality when it comes to RE. In the present market IUSD will carry a premium over TUSD even when both carry an Irvine address.
 
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