Perspective
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paydawg said:
Read it again. "East."
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Read it again. "East."
He could average more points, assists, and rebounds than everyone on that list the first half of the 2017/18 season.
Sounds like you're drinking the KoolAid! LOL. Kyrie averaged over 25 pts/game and all those players above averaged over 20 pts/game (and that doesn't even include Isaiah Thomas at 28.9). You think Lonzo will average 20/game for the first half season?
Whatever you're smoking, can I have some?
I predict Lonzo will average 12/9/5 with sub-40% shooting.
Not sure of I've ever heard the cp comparisons. It was always about jason Kidd. Although ball shot better from three in college. He can improve but obviously that's a big maybe.
Just listen to ESPN 710. They are comparing Ball to every great NBA superstar... esp the PGs.
Just remember that the college 3pt line is about 3 feet shorter (depending on where you shoot), so that's an adjustment Ball has to make. The problem is, he needs to be able to make those outside shots or else the defense will sag making it harder for him to drive and dish or drive and score. And, he favors going left too much.
Sample size recognition, please. You should judge his shooting accuracy based on his entire year at UCLA, not three Laker games. Having said that, Ball's accuracy will be, and should be, scrutinized more heavily because of his horrific form. i.e. "See, he can't shoot. Look at his form!"
I'm betting Ball shot better at UCLA primarily because the other team was in a zone defense, thus the defender was allowing Lonzo some space. You can't necessarily do that in the NBA. Unfortunately Lonzo needs time and space to get his shot off properly, and he won't get that....That'll be a big problem.
not really. He would do that step back three most of the time as the defenders were worried about his dribble drive.. leading to a break down in defense and then a pass.
Deng, Mozgov and DRuss who?
Dantoni type player. He's looking good.
Read it again. "East."
Perspective
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paydawg said:
He could average more points, assists, and rebounds than everyone on that list the first half of the 2017/18 season.
My_Alter_Ego
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Perspective said:
Sounds like you're drinking the KoolAid! LOL. Kyrie averaged over 25 pts/game and all those players above averaged over 20 pts/game (and that doesn't even include Isaiah Thomas at 28.9). You think Lonzo will average 20/game for the first half season?
Whatever you're smoking, can I have some?
I predict Lonzo will average 12/9/5 with sub-40% shooting.
J
jmoney74
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Another trip dub. Obviously, big areas to work on. His mid range offensive game needs the most work. The threes will land like they did in college sooner or later. Turnovers are a norm for rookie PGs.
irvinehomeowner
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I'm convinced that Ball is not a very good shooter... when he misses, he misses bad.
The proof is his mid range shooting... as many have posted here, he is missing that component and now you know why... because he can't shoot.
So many comparisons to CP3... but CP3 can shoot from anywhere.
This doesn't mean he's not going to be good... he will be more like Jason Kidd, a passing guard who will occasionally hit open 3s. But don't expect him to be money or clutch on that outside shot.
It's so funny because all the LA radio heads are hyping him up even though there are a few rookies who have a much better offensive game. But that's okay, because the Lakers needs a player like Ball to bring out the offense in the other players. I just don't think the comparisons to LBJ and other great players when they entered the league are warranted.
The proof is his mid range shooting... as many have posted here, he is missing that component and now you know why... because he can't shoot.
So many comparisons to CP3... but CP3 can shoot from anywhere.
This doesn't mean he's not going to be good... he will be more like Jason Kidd, a passing guard who will occasionally hit open 3s. But don't expect him to be money or clutch on that outside shot.
It's so funny because all the LA radio heads are hyping him up even though there are a few rookies who have a much better offensive game. But that's okay, because the Lakers needs a player like Ball to bring out the offense in the other players. I just don't think the comparisons to LBJ and other great players when they entered the league are warranted.
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irvinehomeowner said:
Not sure of I've ever heard the cp comparisons. It was always about jason Kidd. Although ball shot better from three in college. He can improve but obviously that's a big maybe.
irvinehomeowner
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jmoney74 said:
Just listen to ESPN 710. They are comparing Ball to every great NBA superstar... esp the PGs.
Just remember that the college 3pt line is about 3 feet shorter (depending on where you shoot), so that's an adjustment Ball has to make. The problem is, he needs to be able to make those outside shots or else the defense will sag making it harder for him to drive and dish or drive and score. And, he favors going left too much.
Perspective
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irvinehomeowner said:
Sample size recognition, please. You should judge his shooting accuracy based on his entire year at UCLA, not three Laker games. Having said that, Ball's accuracy will be, and should be, scrutinized more heavily because of his horrific form. i.e. "See, he can't shoot. Look at his form!"
irvinehomeowner
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I understand it's only been 3 Summer League games but you can extrapolate from the following:
1. NBA defense > Summer League defense and college defense
2. NBA 3 point distance > college 3 point distance
3. Poor shooting form
4. No mid-range shot (didn't show that in college either)
5. He just doesn't look like a shooter (based on YouTube videos and the 2 Summer League games I've watched)
The good news is he wasn't drafted for his scoring, but he will need to do so to keep the other teams honest.
1. NBA defense > Summer League defense and college defense
2. NBA 3 point distance > college 3 point distance
3. Poor shooting form
4. No mid-range shot (didn't show that in college either)
5. He just doesn't look like a shooter (based on YouTube videos and the 2 Summer League games I've watched)
The good news is he wasn't drafted for his scoring, but he will need to do so to keep the other teams honest.
paydawg
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Perspective said:
I'm betting Ball shot better at UCLA primarily because the other team was in a zone defense, thus the defender was allowing Lonzo some space. You can't necessarily do that in the NBA. Unfortunately Lonzo needs time and space to get his shot off properly, and he won't get that....That'll be a big problem.
irvinehomeowner
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Another good thing about Ball so far is his defense.
I think he's had 2 5-steal games and has also been blocking shots.
I think he's had 2 5-steal games and has also been blocking shots.
J
jmoney74
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paydawg said:
not really. He would do that step back three most of the time as the defenders were worried about his dribble drive.. leading to a break down in defense and then a pass.
J
jmoney74
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You can have your opinion on Lonzo, but one thing is for sure. When you are a star for the Lakers... YOU ARE A BIG TIME STAR!
irvinehomeowner
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jmoney74 said:
Deng, Mozgov and DRuss who?
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lovingit said:
Dantoni type player. He's looking good.