irvinehomeowner
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Or roller coasters.jmoney74 said:
Great Park Neighborhoods
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NEW -> Contingent Buyer Assistance Program
It's true due to Irvine ordinance. All gated community need to allow free access for all pedestrian. The gate are just for show and traffic control for cars. All gated community have unrestricted entrance for pedestrian and bicyclists.
HOA are much higher for gated communities because HOA are responsible for maintenance of the gate, sidewalks, and all the streets where city are responsible for these in other non-gated communities.
One advantage of gated communities is that there are no Google Street Views allowed. You don't have to worry about Google camera cars taken pic. of you home or possible you in an embarrassing situation.
Oh I see...so this is only applicable to the City of Irvine then. How about guard gated communities in Newport Beach/Coast or other cities? Are pedestrian and bicyclists restricted?
I think the park being built by CS will be utilized more by the Santa Ana residents.. woooohoooo! Yay for diversity!
I think the benefits of gated outweigh the drawbacks.
I walk or jog daily within NP, and appreciate the gates for the reduction in traffic. If/when Orchard Hills makes Culver/Irvine Blvd busier, the gates will prevent folks from using NP as a pass thru - good for both pedestrian safety and the stress-inducing feel you describe about NP Square. It annoys me when I see people driving fast through non-gated NP Square to beat a few lights, and I don't even live there. Plus, in my experience the gates help reduce solicitors (got many more solicitors when I lived in a non-gated part of Irvine previously). In my opinion, the "inconvenience" of managing an entrant list is worth the benefits of having the guard gates. And managing the entrant list is pretty easy anyways.
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jmoney74
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Don't get all mad peeps.. the only people suggesting that the park be free to only MR paying folks are on this board. The parks are going to be open and ran by the City of Irvine.
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These soccer fields will be for the big league games.
AA said:
It's true due to Irvine ordinance. All gated community need to allow free access for all pedestrian. The gate are just for show and traffic control for cars. All gated community have unrestricted entrance for pedestrian and bicyclists.
HOA are much higher for gated communities because HOA are responsible for maintenance of the gate, sidewalks, and all the streets where city are responsible for these in other non-gated communities.
One advantage of gated communities is that there are no Google Street Views allowed. You don't have to worry about Google camera cars taken pic. of you home or possible you in an embarrassing situation.
lnc said:AA said:
It's true due to Irvine ordinance. All gated community need to allow free access for all pedestrian. The gate are just for show and traffic control for cars. All gated community have unrestricted entrance for pedestrian and bicyclists.
HOA are much higher for gated communities because HOA are responsible for maintenance of the gate, sidewalks, and all the streets where city are responsible for these in other non-gated communities.
One advantage of gated communities is that there are no Google Street Views allowed. You don't have to worry about Google camera cars taken pic. of you home or possible you in an embarrassing situation.
Oh I see...so this is only applicable to the City of Irvine then. How about guard gated communities in Newport Beach/Coast or other cities? Are pedestrian and bicyclists restricted?
homer_simpson
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test said:
I think the park being built by CS will be utilized more by the Santa Ana residents.. woooohoooo! Yay for diversity!
thatOSguy said:The best comparison for gated vs non-gated is NP and NP Square.
As much as I hate to admit it, folks drive through NP Square as a pass thru from Irvine to Culver (or Bryan to Irvine) to avoid a couple of lights.
More folks utilize Bunny Park in NP Square than any of the parks in NP.
There are more cars zooming around NP Square than NP, and that makes it feel less intimate, slightly more stress-inducing.
NP's entrances are designed such that you cant easily park and walk - you'll be walking quite a ways to access NP if you arrive via unregistered car. So that diminishes public use of NP's parks and open space by "outsiders," and encourages walking within the community. It's one of the reasons there are tons of walkers in NP (aside from the paths and lush landscaping).
Interestingly, the HOA difference between the 2 communities is minimal - $40 or so per month - and the amenities you get for that $40 are sizeable (tennis courts, more pools, guard gate).
It pains me to write this because I prefer NP Square to NP - it has slightly easier access to shopping and the gate, while nice in diminishing traffic, is silly as a protectionary measure (false sense). And it projects a tacky image of exclusion and separation. Given we ended up in NP, you can tell who won the argument
I think the benefits of gated outweigh the drawbacks.
I walk or jog daily within NP, and appreciate the gates for the reduction in traffic. If/when Orchard Hills makes Culver/Irvine Blvd busier, the gates will prevent folks from using NP as a pass thru - good for both pedestrian safety and the stress-inducing feel you describe about NP Square. It annoys me when I see people driving fast through non-gated NP Square to beat a few lights, and I don't even live there. Plus, in my experience the gates help reduce solicitors (got many more solicitors when I lived in a non-gated part of Irvine previously). In my opinion, the "inconvenience" of managing an entrant list is worth the benefits of having the guard gates. And managing the entrant list is pretty easy anyways.
The Motor Court Company
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wow. thanks for the tips. I did not know I can drive through NP Square to beat a few lights. Now I do and will take advantage of it.