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jmoney74 said:
test said:
Pluto3D said:
Is it normal people leave their garbage cans in their front yard? Not talking about just trash pickup days but permanently. Looks super ghetto and notice everyone doing it. Strange because no other hood in irvine I've seen have peeps storing garbage cans in front yard except PP.

PP.  Can't walk to anywhere.  Ridge Valley is a shortcut route for the entire PS village.  Sandwiched between TWO low income housing complexes.  4 story condos looking into your backyard.  Now garbage cans everywhere.

And now we got some bitter guy bad mouthing PP all the time on TI... POR QUE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!??!?!?!!?

Que Lastima!
 
eyephone said:
jmoney74 said:
test said:
Pluto3D said:
Is it normal people leave their garbage cans in their front yard? Not talking about just trash pickup days but permanently. Looks super ghetto and notice everyone doing it. Strange because no other hood in irvine I've seen have peeps storing garbage cans in front yard except PP.

PP.  Can't walk to anywhere.  Ridge Valley is a shortcut route for the entire PS village.  Sandwiched between TWO low income housing complexes.  4 story condos looking into your backyard.  Now garbage cans everywhere.

And now we got some bitter guy bad mouthing PP all the time on TI... POR QUE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!??!?!?!!?

Que Lastima!

????!

 
Hi guys, been reading a few threads about Pavlion Park homes and many mention 2% annual increase in property tax? Can someone give me more detail about this? Are those posters saying property taxes will increase 2% every year in PP?
 
They say "can," but probably mean "will."

I wont get on a soapbox about government and taxes, but I'd expect that if they can charge more taxes, they will.

 
O Hills said:
They say "can," but probably mean "will."

I wont get on a soapbox about government and taxes, but I'd expect that if they can charge more taxes, they will.

Thanks for clarifying. I think PP has good value, but the MR increase is a major turn off.
 
O Hills said:
They say "can," but probably mean "will."

I wont get on a soapbox about government and taxes, but I'd expect that if they can charge more taxes, they will.

Of course, MR is not really about the government.  It's essentially a way for the builder to recoop their infrastructure building costs.
 
O Hills said:
We already pay taxes for infrastructure, the expanding MR is just a way to get around the Prop 13 limits.

But that's not the government...that's your builder/developer.  Builders/developer have to front the costs for putting in infrastructure in new developments.  MR is just a way for them to get those costs back.  That's why MR go away after a certain period of time.

Developers/builders do not have to impose a MR.  Baker's Ranch has no MR (but they probably just priced it in the selling price). 
 
I'm no expert, but here's what Wikpedia says:

The legislation creating MR allows "'Community Facilities Districts' (CFDs) to be established by local government agencies, (counties, cities, special districts, joint powers authority, and schools districts) to pay for public works and some public services.

These districts seek public financing through the sale of bonds for the purpose of financing public improvements and services. These services may include streets, water, sewage and drainage, electricity, infrastructure, schools, parks and police protection to newly developing areas. The tax paid is used to make the payments of principal and interest on the bonds.

The Mello-Roos fees are generally considered an end-run around Prop 13, which caps property taxes while Mello-Roos are not capped.

In PP (and this is probably the trend), the MR will never drop off, but will instead increase.
 
O Hills said:
I'm no expert, but here's what Wikpedia says:

The legislation creating MR allows "'Community Facilities Districts' (CFDs) to be established by local government agencies, (counties, cities, special districts, joint powers authority, and schools districts) to pay for public works and some public services.

These districts seek public financing through the sale of bonds for the purpose of financing public improvements and services. These services may include streets, water, sewage and drainage, electricity, infrastructure, schools, parks and police protection to newly developing areas. The tax paid is used to make the payments of principal and interest on the bonds.

The Mello-Roos fees are generally considered an end-run around Prop 13, which caps property taxes while Mello-Roos are not capped.

In PP (and this is probably the trend), the MR will never drop off, but will instead increase.

Yes...it is a work around with prop 13 but the people getting paid from the MR payments are the developers (who float the bonds in the first place).
 
Irvinecommuter said:
O Hills said:
I'm no expert, but here's what Wikpedia says:

The legislation creating MR allows "'Community Facilities Districts' (CFDs) to be established by local government agencies, (counties, cities, special districts, joint powers authority, and schools districts) to pay for public works and some public services.

These districts seek public financing through the sale of bonds for the purpose of financing public improvements and services. These services may include streets, water, sewage and drainage, electricity, infrastructure, schools, parks and police protection to newly developing areas. The tax paid is used to make the payments of principal and interest on the bonds.

The Mello-Roos fees are generally considered an end-run around Prop 13, which caps property taxes while Mello-Roos are not capped.

In PP (and this is probably the trend), the MR will never drop off, but will instead increase.

Yes...it is a work around with prop 13 but the people getting paid from the MR payments are the developers (who float the bonds in the first place).

i think the developer votes to approve/OK the bond to be issued, essentially approving the tax, but the bond is issued by the city/county. this makes more sense as in the future, if a new MR bond was needed to be issued in say, pavillion park, the existing residents of the district would have to approve the bond(tax).
 
got my assessment the other day, the value for the 2014/2015 tax year went up .45%, better than 2% which i was sure we would get.
 
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