coronavirus

[iacrenter]

Trump's anti-mask/deny COVID strategy resulted in the unnecessary death of numerous Americans. Having said that, he does deserve credit for Warp Speed. President elect Biden and the county will certainly reap the benefit from this over the next 12-24 months. It's too bad Trump didn't put as much effort into supporting the CDC, PPE, and other scientifically grounded public health efforts.

 

[eyephone]

Trump's anti-mask/deny COVID strategy resulted in the unnecessary death of numerous Americans. Having said that, he does deserve credit for Warp Speed. President elect Biden and the county will certainly reap the benefit from this over the next 12-24 months. It's too bad Trump didn't put as much effort into supporting the CDC, PPE, and other scientifically grounded public health efforts.

They did not release the info until after the election. Haha
So perfect

 

[nosuchreality]

Trump's anti-mask/deny COVID strategy resulted in the unnecessary death of numerous Americans. Having said that, he does deserve credit for Warp Speed. President elect Biden and the county will certainly reap the benefit from this over the next 12-24 months. It's too bad Trump didn't put as much effort into supporting the CDC, PPE, and other scientifically grounded public health efforts.

They did not release the info until after the election. Haha
So perfect

He could have so easily made wearing a masks, washing your hands and practicing social distancing a patriotic thing while promoting the plan to get business back and look what happens streamling regulation.

Instead, his failed victory party is looking like another superspreader event at covid hotspot our Whitehouse.

 

[eyephone]

Trump's anti-mask/deny COVID strategy resulted in the unnecessary death of numerous Americans. Having said that, he does deserve credit for Warp Speed. President elect Biden and the county will certainly reap the benefit from this over the next 12-24 months. It's too bad Trump didn't put as much effort into supporting the CDC, PPE, and other scientifically grounded public health efforts.

They did not release the info until after the election. Haha
So perfect

He could have so easily made wearing a masks, washing your hands and practicing social distancing a patriotic thing while promoting the plan to get business back and look what happens streamling regulation.

Instead, his failed victory party is looking like another superspreader event at covid hotspot our Whitehouse.

Mark Meadows has covid. The party never ends.

At least 5 people in Trump's orbit, including his chief of staff, have tested positive for Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/06/politics/mark-meadows-coronavirus-positive-test/index.html

 

[nosuchreality]

Trump's anti-mask/deny COVID strategy resulted in the unnecessary death of numerous Americans. Having said that, he does deserve credit for Warp Speed. President elect Biden and the county will certainly reap the benefit from this over the next 12-24 months. It's too bad Trump didn't put as much effort into supporting the CDC, PPE, and other scientifically grounded public health efforts.

They did not release the info until after the election. Haha
So perfect

He could have so easily made wearing a masks, washing your hands and practicing social distancing a patriotic thing while promoting the plan to get business back and look what happens streamling regulation.

Instead, his failed victory party is looking like another superspreader event at covid hotspot our Whitehouse.

Mark Meadows has covid. The party never ends.

At least 5 people in Trump's orbit, including his chief of staff, have tested positive for Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/06/politics/mark-meadows-coronavirus-positive-test/index.html

Ben Carson also at the event Tuesday, testing positive.

 

[sgip]

An interesting read on the experience Taiwan has had with COVID-19.

One of the better quotes IMHO - The authority and centralized power enjoyed by the CECC is the result of previous experience with SARS and other epidemics. The legal basis for these policies was established by the legislative branch, and epidemic drills were exercised by the executive branch of the government in ordinary times. (something the US did not have)

Given the island nation's familiarity with mask wearing (also something the US did not have as a cultural norm) they did have less of a hill to climb on this issue. Correct me if I've got the wrong impression here, but Taiwan is almost a homogeneous nation - like Japan - whereas Western Europe and the US have many distinct cultures and having to bring all of them together in a uniform like can be a hurdle.

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/HS.2020.0095[/i]]https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/HS.2020.0095

My .02c

 

[eyephone]

As I said before the patriot act after 911 which gave the right for government to read emails/text messages/voicemails/correspondence with no warrants. (passed by Congress for National security purposes) This sounds more invasive to me than asking people to wear a mask.
If the government gave out masks for free it will be 1000000% cheaper than the costs the US had to pay. (lost lives, hospital bills, lost jobs, lost wages, lost social life)

Even after the first wave the president told us to not worry. But he told Woodward the virus is deadly.

 

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[morekaos]

Just can?t give him any credit for anything...even stuff you like...now that?s funny...

Pfizer press release from July announced that, in agreement with Operation Warp Speed, the U.S. government would receive 100 million doses of the vaccine?subject to FDA approval?for $1.95 billion, with the option to acquire up to 500 million more.
The aim was for these doses to be distributed for free.

"Expanding Operation Warp Speed's diverse portfolio by adding a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech increases the odds that we will have a safe, effective vaccine as soon as the end of this year," said HHS Secretary Alex Azar at the time, per the release.

Update 11/09/2020: This page has been updated to clarify Jansen's comments following further details from a Pfizer spokesperson. The spokesperson clarified that its vaccine is linked to Operation Warp speed, though its research and development has not taken funding from the federal government.

https://www.newsweek.com/pfizer-covid-vaccine-operation-warp-speed-trump-pence-1546024

 

[nosuchreality]

Speaking of the pfizer vaccine, what other vaccines / treatments require storage and transport at -103F?

I'm sure there are other bio treatments that do, just curious on ability to effectively distribute and or damage the efficacy of the treatment.

 

[daedalus]

Ben Carson also at the event Tuesday, testing positive.

I heard that his symptoms include lethargy and a complete lack of energy, but no one noticed.

 

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Ben Carson also at the event Tuesday, testing positive.

I heard that his symptoms include lethargy and a complete lack of energy, but no one noticed.

Rofl

 

[nosuchreality]

7 day average is over 100,000.  Way sooner than expected.  7 day death average already over 900 and climbing rapidly.

Medical.networks in the upper midwest desperate and calling staff back to work in the hospitals before they complete their coronavirus exposure isolation period.

Think that through people.

 

[freedomcm]

All RNA requires storage at -80C to slow degradation. 

That said, you could probably ship it overnight on dry ice at -78C (dry ice temp),  to inoculation centers and store it during the day at -20C (regular freezer) with little increase in degradation.

Speaking of the pfizer vaccine, what other vaccines / treatments require storage and transport at -103F?

I'm sure there are other bio treatments that do, just curious on ability to effectively distribute and or damage the efficacy of the treatment.

 

[nosuchreality]

All RNA requires storage at -80C to slow degradation. 

That said, you could probably ship it overnight on dry ice at -78C (dry ice temp),  to inoculation centers and store it during the day at -20C (regular freezer) with little increase in degradation.

Speaking of the pfizer vaccine, what other vaccines / treatments require storage and transport at -103F?

I'm sure there are other bio treatments that do, just curious on ability to effectively distribute and or damage the efficacy of the treatment.

Saw a news report today talking about the shipping containers.  Good to store for a month, if you open it twice a day for 1 minute.  Vials can be removed and stored at normal.freezer for up to five days.

That is much more manageable, the shipping box basically looked like a meat shipping box.
Hopefully theyre much better about keeping the vaccine at proper temp them they are keeping !eat frozen. 

 

[iacrenter]

All RNA requires storage at -80C to slow degradation. 

That said, you could probably ship it overnight on dry ice at -78C (dry ice temp),  to inoculation centers and store it during the day at -20C (regular freezer) with little increase in degradation.

Speaking of the pfizer vaccine, what other vaccines / treatments require storage and transport at -103F?

I'm sure there are other bio treatments that do, just curious on ability to effectively distribute and or damage the efficacy of the treatment.

Saw a news report today talking about the shipping containers.  Good to store for a month, if you open it twice a day for 1 minute.  Vials can be removed and stored at normal.freezer for up to five days.

That is much more manageable, the shipping box basically looked like a meat shipping box.
Hopefully theyre much better about keeping the vaccine at proper temp them they are keeping !eat frozen. 

Lots of logistical issues around vaccine distribution. Even with the Pfizer "thermal shipper," staff will need to fill the box with dry ice within 24 hrs and replenish it every 5 days. That is if you can get a reliable source of dry ice during the pandemic (there is a shortage). You only have 5 days of shelf life in regular fridge and 6 hours once you dilute the vaccine (1 vial = 5 doses) for administration. Mess up any of these steps and you have to throw the vaccine away.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/18/business/coronavirus-covid-vaccine-cold-frozen-logistics.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/health/pfizer-vaccine-distribution-cold-chain/index.html

The real challenge will be convincing the public that the vaccine is safe. Polls show only 50% of Americans would get the vaccine if available today.

 

[nosuchreality]

New cases 139855.
New Deaths 1448


#winning!

 

[aquabliss]

New cases 139855.
New Deaths 1448


#winning!

Did you know you can google ?XXXX new cases?

Where XXXX equals any 4 digit random number and you will almost always see a news story come up in the results with that number of new cases.  Try it.

Coincidence?

 

[nosuchreality]

New cases 139855.
New Deaths 1448


#winning!

Did you know you can google ?XXXX new cases?

Where XXXX equals any 4 digit random number and you will almost always see a news story come up in the results with that number of new cases.  Try it.

Coincidence?

Simple math.  300 days since virus appeared. 193 countries in the world.

Going further 50 States, 50 State Capitals, 3141 counties. 225 cities over 100,000 population.

Isn't it possible conspiracy logic.

 

[eyephone]

New cases 139855.
New Deaths 1448


#winning!

Did you know you can google ?XXXX new cases?

Where XXXX equals any 4 digit random number and you will almost always see a news story come up in the results with that number of new cases.  Try it.

Coincidence?

The water boy with the Q anon logic?