Baker Ranch in Lake Forest / Foothill Ranch

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FR does have quite a bit more vacancies in it's shopping centers than a few years back, but I would hardly say that it's lacking in options.  I live in Irvine and work a stones throw from FR and I can say that food options in FR far outweigh NE Irvine.  Also it's not too unusual on a weekend for me to drive to FR for fast food if I'm craving Jersey Mikes or CA Fish Grill. 
 
The California Court Company said:
stopped by Baker Ranch today to see what's the buzz all about. the amenities and parks are not bad, homes are OK, price is a little high for non-Irvine

Did they give any price sheet with home sizes + starting from XYZ?  Can you post it?
 
aquabliss said:
The California Court Company said:
stopped by Baker Ranch today to see what's the buzz all about. the amenities and parks are not bad, homes are OK, price is a little high for non-Irvine

Did they give any price sheet with home sizes + starting from XYZ?  Can you post it?

It's up to date on the site - liveatbakerranch.com
 
aquabliss said:
FR does have quite a bit more vacancies in it's shopping centers than a few years back, but I would hardly say that it's lacking in options.  I live in Irvine and work a stones throw from FR and I can say that food options in FR far outweigh NE Irvine.  Also it's not too unusual on a weekend for me to drive to FR for fast food if I'm craving Jersey Mikes or CA Fish Grill. 

No you're right. I forgot jersey mikes and ca fish grill were down there.
 
There are a total of 56 places to eat in Foothill Ranch-proper.

That is not including the center that Home Depot is located in, which is below The Village. That adds an additional 6 places to grab a bite which would make it 62 total. The 56 are located within the Towne Centre, The Marketplace, The Village, and Foothill Plaza.

"Kobe Buffet" (seafood / sushi / sashimi / habachi) is opening very soon, in the Towne Centre across from Target. That will be the 57th place to eat in F.R.-proper. 

 
For comparison, the Irvine Spectrum has 43 places to purchase food according to their directory which I picked up last week and am holding right now. (This count and F.R.'s do not include the food courts inside their Targets. It also does not include the eateries which are currently under construction.)

Correction: The Spectrum count includes candy shops as "food", for example See's candy. Since the Spectrum includes See's, we'll include the F.R. See's, too (newly opened.) Make that 58 places in F.R., then.
 
Why are people talking about what exists in the actual city borders?  Who cares that spectrum exists in Irvine or how many restaurants are actually in FR?  The only thing that matters is proximity to items that *are important to you*.  If being close to Spectrum is critical, than FR is a great choice.  Its closer to Spectrum than majority of Irvine. 

I don't think Cal Court is trolling.  Rather, he makes broad generalizations off of small samples in other threads so take his views with a grain of salt.
 
eclipxe said:
aquabliss said:
The California Court Company said:
stopped by Baker Ranch today to see what's the buzz all about. the amenities and parks are not bad, homes are OK, price is a little high for non-Irvine

Did they give any price sheet with home sizes + starting from XYZ?  Can you post it?

It's up to date on the site - liveatbakerranch.com

No I meant the prices for the new enclave that they were unveiling at the event.  Did they have anything?
 
rkp said:
Why are people talking about what exists in the actual city borders?  Who cares that spectrum exists in Irvine or how many restaurants are actually in FR?  The only thing that matters is proximity to items that *are important to you*.  If being close to Spectrum is critical, than FR is a great choice.  Its closer to Spectrum than majority of Irvine.

Well, as Coleman said, facts are important because without them, there is just a lot of rhetoric and misleading misinformation contained in this thread. So, that is what I tried to do, for example, in my post. The facts are there for the people who want them. (If anyone wants a current, itemized list to back up the facts I posted, I do have that as well and will provide it upon request.) Who is this subject important to? Well, apparently, the people who brought it up but mainly one person in particular who is having to do rhetorical back-flips to attempt to make some kind of a point. 
 
OK fair enough. I don't know Foothill Ranch dining options or stores that well. But the homeless people definitely made us feel uncomfortable. I was expecting to see a nice, middle class, white suburban neighborhood, not destitute people hanging out in public areas. 

Obviously SoCal is pro Foothill Ranch and she always fails to see her city's shortcomings. Number of restaurants does not equal to quality. You can have a lot of low end options but I am not sure about the high end options. Let's see what kind of facts she can dig up.
 
The California Court Company said:
OK fair enough. I don't know Foothill Ranch dining options or stores that well. But the homeless people definitely made us feel uncomfortable. I was expecting to see a nice, middle class, white suburban neighborhood, not destitute people hanging out in public areas. 

Obviously SoCal is pro Foothill Ranch and she always fails to see her city's shortcomings. Number of restaurants does not equal to quality. You can have a lot of low end options but I am not sure about the high end options. Let's see what kind of facts she can dig up.

I do agree that quality is greater than quantity.

@SoCal - TalkIrvine's demographic is very similar to the Irvine population.  Therefore, when they mean places to eat they are talking about...

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To name a few.  (not meant in any negative way)

They may not really consider Miguel's, Mustard Cafe, and Flame Broiler necessarily a dining establishment worth noting.

Fine dining in FR?  Urban Grill and Wine Bar offers a pretty good menu.  However, it does not compare with the options of Irvine and nor should it as FR is a small enclave a fraction of a "village in Irvine".  I would love to see a chef owned place like Urban Seoul, the Playground, or Break of Dawn, etc... open up in FR.

Empty buildings for lease in a town center is never a positive thing to look at either.  20+ years ago, people have grand visions for the area.  However, the population wouldn't be able to support multiple car dealerships and that many big box stores especially with the invention of the internet and online shopping.  With the build out of the Great Park and Baker Ranch more people should trickle through the town center adding some "life" to it.  We'll know more when the time comes.


I don't think the food in FR is amazing. There are some places that I really like to eat. CA Fish Grill, In-N-Out, and Natraj Indian fast food.  However, I often drive distances to get food that I like.  It's not unheard of to drive an hour to get some foods that even Irvine can't compete with.

I used to always say for how many Asians Irvine has, it does not have many good Asian restaurants.  However, I have just been fortunate enough to eat at many good "Asian" places in my life. (However, it seems like a lot of restaurants from SGV are coming out here)

Regarding the homeless people at the library.  At least they were educated and were interested in books!  :o  jokes aside - homeless people or people living out of their car never made me feel comfortable.  Unfortunately, you were witness to this and one cannot make you "unfeel" that situation.  However, it is a blanket statement going to one area and covering the city with that.  What happens to people who exit the 5 at Jeffrey and drive down Walnut towards Yale?  They see older condos on the left, condos on the right? and then they turn right on Yale, go over the hill and see Orchard Park.  I have seen some pretty "intimidating" people around Irvine who I would stereotype and profile as "criminal looking" however, I'd just think to myself, "where do these people come from?"  Kind of like going to Walmart.

Drive down my street and you will see that it's pretty middle class.  However, there are a few Asians and Indians who live on my street (look for the nice cars).  :P

I am more of a PRO-Orange County person than anything.  I am not blinded by the city I live in or the cities I have lived in. 

One of the issues with FR is the limited number of housing that appeals to "higher" incomes.  Irvine has houses that appeal to incomes that are limitless.  I doubt someone with a solid seven figure income is going to want to live in FR. 

FR's appeal typically hits a ceiling with families probably making $300k-350k/yr who are wanting to purchase a house $900k or less.  (I totally made up the income numbers and have NO scientific proof, but just a guess) 
 
@ CA Court, since you are so traumatized by seeing a homeless person at the library and unable to cope with it while you were returning the children's books you checked out, there is always another option... you can save up some money and buy your children some books (unless the children's books were for YOU  ;) ). Amazon has good deals. You can't beat the convenience of Amazon Prime 2-day shipping.
 
There were at least two homeless people in separate cars. Not just one. Stop being ignorant of issues inside your beloved city.

Still waiting for your facts on quality vs quantity. Not sure there's any that will favor FC so I guess you will just go silent.

Honestly I needed an excuse to show my wife around in Foothill Ranch, as I was contemplating buying an investment home outside of Irvine. As for the books, the simple solution is to stick with Irvine branches.


SoCal said:
@ CA Court, since you are so traumatized by seeing a homeless person at the library and unable to cope with it while you were returning the children's books you checked out, there is always another option... you can save up some money and buy your children some books (unless the children's books were for YOU  ;) ). Amazon has good deals. You can't beat the convenience of Amazon Prime 2-day shipping.
 
Um. I never claimed you didn't see a homeless person. So, how am I being "ignorant"? Heck, I've seen homeless men on Jeffrey Trail in Irvine (sans cars). They can be anywhere.

I don't understand your question. You are looking for facts on "quality"? How do you quantify quality? Desirability is subjective. Put 50 people in a room and ask them what the best kind of coffee is. They will not all agree on one kind.
 
I was in Laguna Beach two weekends ago and I saw 4 homeless people around main street. They didn't even have cars. I was expecting a nice, wealthy white beach town, not this trash! (/sarcasm, although I did see 4 homeless people last time I was there).

As far as restaurants in FHR - I'm pretty partial to Eleven46 and Bravo Avo. Eleven46 has great spicy pork/salads and BravoAvo's gyro salads are the closest thing I've found to my mainstays in the Bay Area. Irvine has no good greek that I've found.

But, to be fair - the beauty of FHR is that you have good convenient day-to-day options, but you're also super close to Spectrum and eventually great park shopping/dining/etc.

FHR is not Irvine and never will be Irvine, but it sure is a convenient location if you want to be close to Irvine.
 
eclipxe said:
BravoAvo's gyro salads are the closest thing I've found to my mainstays in the Bay Area. Irvine has no good greek that I've found.

How is their gyro meat compared to the gyro from Daphne's. After 3.5 years in FHR, I still have not gotten around to trying all of the restaurants, including Bravo Avo, although it's always been on my mental, perpetual To Do list. Are the owners usually in there? I think I've seen who I believe are the owners - man & wife? Older couple? - sitting outside and going in & out most times that I drive by. I pick up Daphne's a couple times a month. I like their family meals although their hummus has gone downhill recently (what's with it drowning in a bucket of lemon juice?). Their gyro meat is really good. 
 
Coleman said:
@SoCal - TalkIrvine's demographic is very similar to the Irvine population.  Therefore, when they mean places to eat they are talking about...

Haha. Okay, gotchya.  ;)
 
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