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even though i participate in some the livelier discussions here, i'm in the camp that if someone asks you to tone it down, just let them have that. what's the issue here, really? constitutional rights being trampled? taliban-like oppression? or maybe alpha male pride being hurt by having to acquiesce to a few "uptight" women? so what if some folks are tired of hearing about A$$? i wonder about someone that finds it so hard to restrain the urge to talk about women and booze. these forums already allow us to get away with a lot more than we could in most other public spaces. we have to watch our language and behavior at work, around children, in school, even restaurants and theaters. so when someone says, "hey i'm offended. cut it out." is it really so hard to honor that request without crying, "help, help, i'm being repressed!"?



now forgetting about who's right and who's wrong for a moment -- from a practical standpoint, it's just plain stupid to keep up with the sleazy talk. these days it's so easy for employers, spouses, and pretty much anyone that is curious enough to find your myspace and facebook pages, blogs, and forum posts. don't post anything you wouldn't mind people knowing you posted if they knew it was you.



and while it's very honorable of the mods to keep the blog and forum free of censorship, i wouldn't mind too much if they remind people to stay on topic or just close threads when things get out of hand. we know the media also lurks because IHB gets quoted every so often. i'd hate to see the blog lose credibility on actual RE-related issues.
 
Alright this is my last comment on this thread. You can use the report button or contact the other mods, because I am over it.



I reread page 3 of this thread, yes, Troop asked nicely, and then the pot shots started coming. I read 3 comments on page 3 that could be construed as nice, the majority of the others were low, and at the same level as they criticized him for. It was 5 to 1 on the pot shots to making nice comments.



I had Ten's back because he was attacked at the same level people wanted him to stop. If ANYONE had PM'd me and asked if I wouldn't mind asking him to tone it down, I would have. I did not get one email from a report of the post, I did not get one PM, I did not get one private email, I did not get one phone call, I did not get a text message, and I have a Blackberry, so I would get it. If Troop had PM'd me to ask Ten to tone it down, and expressed her concerns about him, you better believe I would have said something to Ten, as well as mention it to the other mods. Unfortunately, she chose to mention it publicly and in a nice way, then everyone had to get their 2 cents in with the pot shots. It's not Troop's fault, it was everyone else jumping in on bashing Ten. Everyone who did, made a stupid mistake, because it only fed the fire, and if I am supposed to tell Ten to tone it down, well... there were a bunch of other long time members I would have to do same for, otherwise I would be a hypocrite. The more appropriate channel would have been to taken it up privately with the mods first, as we can see the community policing did not work well, especially when people would call Ten pathetic, vile, a GHB dropper, disgusting, a misogynist (when in fact he doesn't hate women, and it sounds like he likes them), etc. That is not community policing, that is community anarchy. I am not the only mod, and we do discuss what is being said and what to do about it. If we were contacted in some way, shape or form privately, then that would have been the way to go about it, not by bashing him publicly.
 
Guys leave Ten alone,



I was also an anti-Ten guy in the beginning, but he actually kind of grows on you. I mean, everything in life is so serious, with possibly losing our jobs, WTF gas prices, WTF Irvine home prices, food prices going up, U.S. stock market that is waiting to crash, and being in the middle of one the worst recession in southern california history.



Guys like Ten, sort of lightens me up, "like don't take life so seriously all the time". "Take time to enjoy and have fun". "It is okay to be a fool sometimes" I take my life too seriously, don't take enough time off to have fun. I mean i can agree that many women can be offended by some of comments, but i think we need loosen up. I can tell the guys on this forum are highly educated, competitive, ambitious, successful, and most importantly very serious about their life.



In a way Ten's personality, is the complete opposite of me that I kind of lack in my personality, definitely makes this forum more fun and entertaining... :) Ten .. you complete me :) Ten, "Keep on Posting."



Panda (who converted from anti-Ten to liking Ten)
 
Moderators - Threads go off topic all the time, how would a moderator choose which one to disassemble and which one to keep intact or ignore? If a certain number of bloggers request a person to be ban from a thread, can and will that be done? I dont need a response, just think about it and act how you will.



Ten - I certainly agree that you were attacked personally and had to defend yourself. I wont hold it against you that you went to USC.



Anti Ten - I read that some of you asked the thread to be moved. I think this would have alleviated the problem with all the Ten bashing.



PANDA - I blame you for starting all this and continuing to be weird with the smily faces. GUYS dont post with smily faces so stop that.



Rickhunter - BTW, I like IRVINE because it is in ORANGE COUNTY!
 
"I LOVE IRVINE", but i am also starting to like Aliso Viejo too because the home prices are more affordable. What's wrong with GUYS posting smily faces? It's not like Panda is "GAY", I am married to a lovely woman you know.
 
This is what I like about Irvine!!



[quote author="25w100k+" date=1212504648]This is a great thread. We've gone from racism, to misogyny, to class hatred (USC vs. UCLA). I can only imagine whats next. :-)



The last one being a particularly useless discussion, as I've said before, college is a waste of time and money. Be it USC or UCLA, either way you overpaid for an education that anyone with internet access and some self discipline could give themselves. ;-)</blockquote>
 
[quote author="caycifish" date=1212465869]



And to add at least one thing on topic: I like that Irvine is safe and clean, but dislike that it is cookie-cutter sameness all over the place.</blockquote>


No doubt! I've taken to calling it the "Irvine Stepford Syndrome"....



Everybody MUST dress the same, wear the same fashionable attire, drive the same fashionable clothes etc. etc. It seems the only people that I tend to fit in is the eccentric crowd. Oh well, good luck and thank you for confirming!



-bix
 
Graphrix, it would be presumptuous and possibly inaccurate if it were said that Tenmagnet himself was disgusting and pathetic, since most of the posters probably do not know him. However, the comments were against what he wrote and the overall feeling that women were only to be treated as a piece of meat.



Panda, I didn't know that using smileys was considered "gay." Congratulations, that's probably one of the most idiotic comments I've seen so far on IHB.
 
OUCH!..Anon... Everyone is rippin on everyone in this thread man... !



Rickhunter wrote:

PANDA - I blame you for starting all this and continuing to be weird with the smily faces. GUYS dont post with smily faces so stop that.



If Guys dont post smily faces, I would assume Girls do. If grown men acts VERY, VERY girly, I would consider them "Gay" Anon. do you see how one statement connects to the other?



Who Let the Pandas out "o" "o" "o". Who Let the Pandas out "o" "o" "o".
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1212549823]

Who Let the Pandas out "o" "o" "o". Who Let the Pandas out "o" "o" "o".</blockquote>


panda is the most unintentionally hilarious poster here. in a single thread he's managed to call ten a UCI undergrad, asked for a copy of his photo so he can compare it with brad pitt, offered to buy him a book on dating, and now he's busting out who-let-the-dogs-out woofs.



i swear every time i read a post from panda i imagine this guy talking.

<img src="http://george.hotelling.net/90percent/20020803151259.jpeg" alt="" />



keep posting, panda!
 
Alright, alright, it is only fair if I post Ten's picture for all of you to see, I have to post mine. Here is a picture of MR and Mrs Panda at downtown Disney in Anaheim. Nope, we don't have any baby Pandas yet, but soon to come when we finally move to the "Promise Land". See acpme, I don't look like that Asian UC Berkeley "Geek" you posted up there. hehe.



You know a funny thing happened to me last week. I had no idea that Trooper was a "Woman" on IHB. IPOP introduced me to this cool irvine foreclosure site called realtytrac.com and whenever i log in i see this ad for this real estate agent named "Troy Hooper" and this whole time I thought this agent is Trooper on IHB ("No joke"). So i call this Troy Hooper guy and say to him. "C'mon I know you use that avitar "Trooper" on the Irvine Housing Blog, You can't fool me. He was like, dude you are crazy, I don't know what you are talking about.



I guess I won't be calling him anymore.

http://www.ocresidence.com/ <- his website.



Panda.
 
Panda, ROTFLMAO ! You are my favorite new poster...even though you do seem somewhat schizophrenic. ;)



Awgee.....ditto on ROTFLMAO.
 
Panda - I dont know. I think ACP posted a younger version of you. Seriously...very similar.

As Ten gives Trooper the creepies, You give me the creepies. Dont tell me you are Christian?



What I will give you is that you can take a joke. We do need more people to take themselves less seriously...



[quote author="PANDA" date=1212555143]See acpme, I don't look like that Asian UC Berkeley "Geek" you posted up there. hehe.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1212555143]Alright, alright, it is only fair if I post Ten's picture for all of you to see, I have to post mine. Here is a picture of MR and Mrs Panda at downtown Disney in Anaheim. Nope, we don't have any baby Pandas yet, but soon to come when we finally move to the "Promise Land". See acpme, I don't look like that Asian UC Berkeley "Geek" you posted up there. hehe.



You know a funny thing happened to me last week. I had no idea that Trooper was a "Woman" on IHB. IPOP introduced me to this cool irvine foreclosure site called realtytrac.com and whenever i log in i see this ad for this real estate agent named "Troy Hooper" and this whole time I thought this agent is Trooper on IHB ("No joke"). So i call this Troy Hooper guy and say to him. "C'mon I know you use that avitar "Trooper" on the Irvine Housing Blog, You can't fool me. He was like, dude you are crazy, I don't know what you are talking about.



I guess I won't be calling him anymore.

http://www.ocresidence.com/ <- his website.



Panda.</blockquote>


Would the real tenmagnet please stand up.
 
I think I just lost 3d6 brain cells reading this thread. Any chance that it'd be moved to the water cooler?



<img src="http://yeinjee.com/asianpop/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bandi-panda-fashion-01.jpg" alt="" />

<img src="http://yeinjee.com/asianpop/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bandi-panda-fashion-02.jpg" alt="" />
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1212552021]Hum the musical note "YMCA"



[quote author="awgee" date=1212551897]:-) :-) :-) ;-P</blockquote></blockquote>
:question: :-) 8-/ :lol:
 
I know that the topic of "racism" came up several times on this thread. At first i would joke around with some "asian jokes" however it seems to be a very sensitive issue in this forum? Is there a lot of segregation among ethnic groups in Irvine?



I grew up in a predominately white neighborhood throughout my elementary, junior high, and high school years. I remember when i was in elementary school and junior high some of the white kids were very cruel telling me that they would blind fold my eyes with dental floss. When I was in high school, the kids were a little nicer by nicknaming me "Panda" since I was practically the only asian in my high school.



I remember hs_teacher made a comment that many of the students at her high school seem to segregate among their own ethnic groups (koreans with koreans, whites with whites, and chinese with chinese), I was wondering if it is like this even among us adults where we tend to make friends mostly within our own ethnic groups? My wife and I agreed that we would like to have good couple friends in all different ethnic groups (let it be black, hispanic, white, chinese etc., ) and not just live in an asian/korean bubble like many of our asian parents. We would also like to teach our kids not to make friends just with asians. That is one of reasons why it may not be a bad idea to live in Aliso Viejo (10% asian) for a while, and move to Irvine (35% asian) later on.



Another topic i am also very interested in is about good parenting and raising children with good values. Though we don't have any children we definitely want to prepare when we have kids of our own. It must be very challenging raising good children, where materialism is so evident and in your face. What are some the challenges many of you parents have when raising your children in Irvine or in general? I would like to have a respectful and open conversation regarding these two topics.



Panda
 
Panda -- Irvine is a fantastic muticultural city to live in. It is also very much a city that caters to families, IMO. I notice on this board that the most vigorous Irvine dissenters also tend to be those who are single or couples without kids. I understand that, my wife and I would not have settled here before kids.



That said, I think having children in Irvine goes a long way to promote integrating with all the cultures here. You cannot help but interact and become friends with the diverse population when you are involved with the endless kid actvities. Personally, I can think of nowhere I would rather live.



To give you a sense of how things look around here: I'm white, my wife is Chinese. Our three best "couple" friends are: 1) White wife, Chinese husband, 2) Korean couple, and 3) Vietnamese wife, African-American husband. And I never even think about it, until your question made me think.



(Sorry if this post looks ugly, typing on the Treo because am riveted on Top Chef and don't want to go upstairs to the real computer.)
 
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