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Our Gang said:
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Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
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Tony Pan said after the meeting. "I think it's just a misunderstanding of the fliers that we were distributing." Pan said the meeting was nothing more than an informational session. "We want to understand what's our rights as a resident, what you can do to protect your interests,"
Ming Chan ? explained that the 6,000-year-old Chinese philosophy of Feng Shui ? and its belief that positive and negative forces require a balance in the natural world ? is a factor in her opposition to the cemetery.
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I think you're on to something. I'm going to try and find him.
Sorry everyone. My reply to Swordfish was a bit rude. I was in a movie where my favorite female character was in danger. I was on the edge of my seat and had to finish someone off fast.
Asian buyers would be hesitant to buy homes that are in close proximity to a cemetery and as such it can affect resale value, especially to Asian buyers. So this point of their argument is valid.
For would-be buyers, perhaps they can accept the location if they get offered a huge feng shui discount from the developer - ah, this is why FP isn't very happy about this.
For buyers who have already bought BP, yes, you have every right to protest. But why did you choose to buy BP in the first place if it bothers you so much? Didn't the news of the cemetery project come out sometime last year? Were you not aware of this plan?
I'm taking this stance because I know several of the anti-cemetery protesters don't even live close to BP. They seem to be enjoying stirring up conflicts. I think they are on a losing cause because the city obviously has no say in this anymore. And even if it were on a ballot, realistically speaking, few people outside TI cares about the interest of BP homeowners and that of FP.
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Like to welcome all the vets that are coming on this site and reading up on the thread. For any questions regarding our anti-cemetery stance.. please reach out to our all powerful leader, Yaliu.
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? Ms. Schott cancelled the meeting due to her concern on others? false interpretations on our event flyer, we are greatly disappointed in her no direct communication to us PRIOR to her decision and her unprofessionalism.jmoney74 said:
Tony Pan said after the meeting. "I think it's just a misunderstanding of the fliers that we were distributing." Pan said the meeting was nothing more than an informational session. "We want to understand what's our rights as a resident, what you can do to protect your interests,"
Ming Chan ? explained that the 6,000-year-old Chinese philosophy of Feng Shui ? and its belief that positive and negative forces require a balance in the natural world ? is a factor in her opposition to the cemetery.
Ming Chan does not know what she was talking about. 90% Chinese do not know EXACTLY what feng shui is. Most educated people consider it a voodoo magic. The first record of Feng Shui in China's hiatory was Yi Jing (I ching), which was compiled in the West Zhou dynasty ( roughly between 1000 and 770 BC). It is not a philosophy, it is not a religion. It is more like traditional Chinese medicine that has a strong hold in chinese culture but nobody knows exactly how it works. I heard a smart guy who believed in something similar called 'alternate medicine' so much that he would rather die than believing in science. So he did. God bless his soul.
I am not saying which party has a more valid claim. But if one party is using feng shui as the main issue to support their cause, please, at least check your facts - it is not even 3000 years old.
I am not saying which party has a more valid claim. But if one party is using feng shui as the main issue to support their cause, please, at least check your facts - it is not even 3000 years old.
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Google is your friend. It doesn't take much research to establish your knowledge on the topic of Feng Shui is minimal and inaccurate. Start with a check on Wikipedia and work your way on from there. And the next time you cast dispersions on other people's statements please make sure your own are correct. Otherwise you end up looking like the South end of a North-bound horse.WillJoy said:
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I think you're on to something. I'm going to try and find him.
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eyephone said:jmoney74 said:
Apparently you live next door to him.
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Feng Shui likely far pre-dates the I Ching. In ancient times folks relied on oral traditions based on stuffs like trial and error, observation (cause-effect), supernatural beliefs, mythology, etc.
When Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi wanted to build hospitals around Bagdad, he stringed up meat around the city and looked for places where the meat would rot slowest. He didn't have a modern scientific explination, but he sure knew his "Feng Shui" without ever having read the I Ching.
If someone were to build a cemetery near you like the one depicted below, with funeral processions that included professional wailiers (to cry out in place of relatives) on loud speakers, funeral strippers, and multiple bonfires scattering half burnt fake paper money across the hillside, I think I'd have objected. You don't need to read I Ching to understand it's bad influence on your kids when a funeral procession rolls by with strippers on back of a truck doing splits on a pole.
But that doesn't apply to a well managed, Western-style park-like cemetery setting, where families take a stroll and enjoy a little peace and quiet away from the street.
You don't need to read I Ching to see that it's a good place to teach children about mortality. Life is a one way trip to 6 feet under, how you choose to live it will decide your regrets at the end of your journey.
Personally, I bought my plots by laying around different spots at Rose Hills to find one that I was most comfortable wtih at various times of the day. When you find the "right" spot it's one that you just feel right at and, even if it's getting dark you don't feel creepy at all. Don't need I Ching or Feng Sui to tell me how to find my burial plot, which I visit on semi regular basis (hey, I bought it, it's mine). I have a family of (living) Mexican neighbors by my plot, they visit on some weekends with picnic basket. Nice people.
Fred Rogers never minced his words when it came to telling kids that their dead goldfish isn't coming back.
http://www.fredrogers.org/parents/special-challenges/death.php
When Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi wanted to build hospitals around Bagdad, he stringed up meat around the city and looked for places where the meat would rot slowest. He didn't have a modern scientific explination, but he sure knew his "Feng Shui" without ever having read the I Ching.
If someone were to build a cemetery near you like the one depicted below, with funeral processions that included professional wailiers (to cry out in place of relatives) on loud speakers, funeral strippers, and multiple bonfires scattering half burnt fake paper money across the hillside, I think I'd have objected. You don't need to read I Ching to understand it's bad influence on your kids when a funeral procession rolls by with strippers on back of a truck doing splits on a pole.
But that doesn't apply to a well managed, Western-style park-like cemetery setting, where families take a stroll and enjoy a little peace and quiet away from the street.
You don't need to read I Ching to see that it's a good place to teach children about mortality. Life is a one way trip to 6 feet under, how you choose to live it will decide your regrets at the end of your journey.
Personally, I bought my plots by laying around different spots at Rose Hills to find one that I was most comfortable wtih at various times of the day. When you find the "right" spot it's one that you just feel right at and, even if it's getting dark you don't feel creepy at all. Don't need I Ching or Feng Sui to tell me how to find my burial plot, which I visit on semi regular basis (hey, I bought it, it's mine). I have a family of (living) Mexican neighbors by my plot, they visit on some weekends with picnic basket. Nice people.
Fred Rogers never minced his words when it came to telling kids that their dead goldfish isn't coming back.
http://www.fredrogers.org/parents/special-challenges/death.php
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Sorry everyone. My reply to Swordfish was a bit rude. I was in a movie where my favorite female character was in danger. I was on the edge of my seat and had to finish someone off fast.
Asian buyers would be hesitant to buy homes that are in close proximity to a cemetery and as such it can affect resale value, especially to Asian buyers. So this point of their argument is valid.
For would-be buyers, perhaps they can accept the location if they get offered a huge feng shui discount from the developer - ah, this is why FP isn't very happy about this.
For buyers who have already bought BP, yes, you have every right to protest. But why did you choose to buy BP in the first place if it bothers you so much? Didn't the news of the cemetery project come out sometime last year? Were you not aware of this plan?
I'm taking this stance because I know several of the anti-cemetery protesters don't even live close to BP. They seem to be enjoying stirring up conflicts. I think they are on a losing cause because the city obviously has no say in this anymore. And even if it were on a ballot, realistically speaking, few people outside TI cares about the interest of BP homeowners and that of FP.