Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
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Second, the cemetery is NOT being built inside PP. It's being built quite a distance away for all practical purposes.
Third, yaliu believes in ghosts.
It's far enough away that it doesn't bother me... but it's obviously not far enough away for yaliu or his fear of ghosts.
I would think most people would not desire a cemetery (veterans or otherwise) built close to their homes, but the distance from PP also seems large enough that most people wouldn't mind it either.
Not sure what 5Ps plan is for the areas immediately surrounding the cemetery but I'm fairly certain it won't be SFRs.
He moved to JC with me and Panda.... No one in their right minds would move to PP or GP or even PS to live close to a cemetery... come on!!
Quiet neighbors that don't contribute to rush hour traffic or night time parking issues. Well-maintained parkland with fresh air and lots of open space to take your family for walks. Food for CA mule deer and local rabbits (emergency food supply when SHTF). I am however concerned about water usage and what happens when they have to cut back on watering the lawn. Hopefully they'd work with the city and water department to use recycled/reclaimed water.
Cemetery parklands is also perfect for community events like jogging/walking. Why expose all the joggers to dangerous traffic (having to close roads and such) on the street, when it's much safer to do at the cemetery/memorial park? Also, why pay so much money on gardening expense when cemeteries can setup community flower gardens areas? It'd be a great activity for widows/widowers to visit their loved one's and do some gardening to stay active and healthy.
? Why would it be a joke?
When they moved the koi from Puente Hills Mall to the lake at Rose Hills in Whittier, I used to go visit them and feed them when nobody is looking. Pretty nice place & people bring their kids there all the time. But they really need to keep the lake clean.
Back when my Ah-Gon was still alive, he taught me that you should taste all the nice food that you like when you're younger, because when you get old you can't eat anything. And when buying burial plots, you should buy in places that you actually like while your'e alive, because if don't like the place then you wouldn't want to be buried there.
I dont understand at all!!! in the asian culture, we go cemetery to pay respect. It is consider rude to walk over other people's "resting area". if it is rude, then the ghost will haunt that person. that's why the cemetery is always seem negative.
what i REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND is why will you jog/walk in the cemetery when there is a 688 acres great park next door?
Why will you take your family there when there is 688 acres great park next door?
I'm Asian, myself and tens of thousands of Asians walk over "other people's graves" at Rose Hills every year. Just 2 weeks ago I even "walked over" my grandparent's grave, and their neighbor's graves. Nobody alive or dead complained to me that it was rude. Parents bring their kids who run around in the cemetery park. What part do you not understand?
Look, it's a nice park. No Taiwanese Electric Flower Cars with funeral strippers and flat bed trucks with professional mourners dressed in hemp robes and crying into loud speakers. Visit Rose Hills in early morning and you can see deer (try area by gate 17). They love munching on the flowers.
If you think the cemetery is such a negative place, then ask yourself why you'd want to make it your resting place. If you liked living in Irvine, why would you object to being buried here? Perhaps the 688 acre great park planning can allocate some part of the land for general use memorial park.
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irvinehomeowner
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First, I don't think I ever said yailu was unpatriotic or lacking respect for veterans. I believe I said it was ironic. I even clarified that a few pages earlier.i1 said:
Second, the cemetery is NOT being built inside PP. It's being built quite a distance away for all practical purposes.
Third, yaliu believes in ghosts.
It's far enough away that it doesn't bother me... but it's obviously not far enough away for yaliu or his fear of ghosts.
I would think most people would not desire a cemetery (veterans or otherwise) built close to their homes, but the distance from PP also seems large enough that most people wouldn't mind it either.
Not sure what 5Ps plan is for the areas immediately surrounding the cemetery but I'm fairly certain it won't be SFRs.
homer_simpson
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qwerty said:
He moved to JC with me and Panda.... No one in their right minds would move to PP or GP or even PS to live close to a cemetery... come on!!
momopi
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eyephone said:
Quiet neighbors that don't contribute to rush hour traffic or night time parking issues. Well-maintained parkland with fresh air and lots of open space to take your family for walks. Food for CA mule deer and local rabbits (emergency food supply when SHTF). I am however concerned about water usage and what happens when they have to cut back on watering the lawn. Hopefully they'd work with the city and water department to use recycled/reclaimed water.
Cemetery parklands is also perfect for community events like jogging/walking. Why expose all the joggers to dangerous traffic (having to close roads and such) on the street, when it's much safer to do at the cemetery/memorial park? Also, why pay so much money on gardening expense when cemeteries can setup community flower gardens areas? It'd be a great activity for widows/widowers to visit their loved one's and do some gardening to stay active and healthy.
momopi
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eyephone said:
? Why would it be a joke?
When they moved the koi from Puente Hills Mall to the lake at Rose Hills in Whittier, I used to go visit them and feed them when nobody is looking. Pretty nice place & people bring their kids there all the time. But they really need to keep the lake clean.
Back when my Ah-Gon was still alive, he taught me that you should taste all the nice food that you like when you're younger, because when you get old you can't eat anything. And when buying burial plots, you should buy in places that you actually like while your'e alive, because if don't like the place then you wouldn't want to be buried there.
irvinehomeowner
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Seems like the detractors here have never been to a cemetery?
We go to Fairhaven about 2-3 times a year and there are always quite a few people there.
We've also been the Lake Forest one and that is actually quite a nice cemetery.
In cities more dense, cemeteries are actually part of the neighborhood and people do jog/walk through them... and families do stroll through them.
We go to Fairhaven about 2-3 times a year and there are always quite a few people there.
We've also been the Lake Forest one and that is actually quite a nice cemetery.
In cities more dense, cemeteries are actually part of the neighborhood and people do jog/walk through them... and families do stroll through them.
Jogging in a cemetery...sounds like season 1 of House of Cards?
The veterans cemetery in westwood definitely doesn't feel integrated with the community. It sits by itself and has a big black gate surrounding it. It would be interesting if they can do a better job of integrating cemeteries into the parks and open areas. Imagine having bike paths and running trails while not disrespecting visitors. Unfortunately I think it will be more closed off and isolated though.
As noted before, I don't care either way but don't understand why some people see being near a freeway as disrespect. Seems like a good middle solution for all parties. Something has to be built near a freeway. Would it be better to have living people near the freeways or dead people?
Most of my thinking comes from a utilitarian point of view and frankly, I don't understand why more people seek cremation.
The veterans cemetery in westwood definitely doesn't feel integrated with the community. It sits by itself and has a big black gate surrounding it. It would be interesting if they can do a better job of integrating cemeteries into the parks and open areas. Imagine having bike paths and running trails while not disrespecting visitors. Unfortunately I think it will be more closed off and isolated though.
As noted before, I don't care either way but don't understand why some people see being near a freeway as disrespect. Seems like a good middle solution for all parties. Something has to be built near a freeway. Would it be better to have living people near the freeways or dead people?
Most of my thinking comes from a utilitarian point of view and frankly, I don't understand why more people seek cremation.
momopi said:
I dont understand at all!!! in the asian culture, we go cemetery to pay respect. It is consider rude to walk over other people's "resting area". if it is rude, then the ghost will haunt that person. that's why the cemetery is always seem negative.
what i REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND is why will you jog/walk in the cemetery when there is a 688 acres great park next door?
Why will you take your family there when there is 688 acres great park next door?
momopi
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yaliu07 said:
I'm Asian, myself and tens of thousands of Asians walk over "other people's graves" at Rose Hills every year. Just 2 weeks ago I even "walked over" my grandparent's grave, and their neighbor's graves. Nobody alive or dead complained to me that it was rude. Parents bring their kids who run around in the cemetery park. What part do you not understand?
Look, it's a nice park. No Taiwanese Electric Flower Cars with funeral strippers and flat bed trucks with professional mourners dressed in hemp robes and crying into loud speakers. Visit Rose Hills in early morning and you can see deer (try area by gate 17). They love munching on the flowers.
If you think the cemetery is such a negative place, then ask yourself why you'd want to make it your resting place. If you liked living in Irvine, why would you object to being buried here? Perhaps the 688 acre great park planning can allocate some part of the land for general use memorial park.
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