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peppy said:
The issue with "nationalist" is that there is an implied & silent "ethnic" in front of it (Richard Spencer also goes by "nationalist", for example). The nationalist and alt-right movements are just a rebranding of classic white nationalism and they oppose diversity and immigration which they claim is a form of "white genocide". Keep this in mind if you decide to call yourself a "nationalist".

I agree that's how it is likely to be branded, so here is Mr. Bannon in his own words:

In an interview, Mr. Bannon, 62, rejected what he called the ?ethno-nationalist? tendencies of some in the movement. His interest in populism and American nationalism, he said, has to do with curbing what he sees as the corrosive effects of globalization. And he believes his enemies are misstating his views and those of many Trump followers.

?These people are patriots,? he said. ?They love their country. They just want their country taken care of.?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/stephen-bannon-white-house-trump.html
 
eyephone said:
What is wrong with deporting illegal felons to their country or origin?

right?  Saw some headlines today.. and they were like it's in the millions.. and I'm thinking.. so?  Get them out!
 
Liberals say most of the 2 million illegal alien felons were convicted of nonviolent offenses like shoplifting, drug use, and DUI so we shouldn't deport them.  I think we have enough native shoplifters, stoners, and drunk drivers, we don't need to import any more from other countries.
 
This put tremendous financial strain on the tax payer pockets that not only we have to provide housing, food, and medical for the illegal felons, the correctional systems is overload.

Convicted felon should deport as soon as possible. I am all for it. We will have to see how Trump grand plan is for this.
 
jmoney74 said:
eyephone said:
What is wrong with deporting illegal felons to their country or origin?

right?  Saw some headlines today.. and they were like it's in the millions.. and I'm thinking.. so?  Get them out!

The problem is that Trump is calling for anyone being arrested to have removal proceedings initiated against them WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS. Even if you are in the country illegally, you get a day in court. Constitutional challenge, here we come.

 
Wow, what the hell is that political gobbledygook.  Let's make up some terms and use them for excuses

Clinton camp blames white female ?internalized misogyny? for loss

Move over James Comey.

Hillary Clinton?s campaign has a new culprit for its loss to Donald Trump: Self-loathing, sexist women.

During an appearance on MSNBC on Monday, former Clinton campaign communications director Jess McIntosh claimed it was women with ?internalized misogyny? who couldn?t bring themselves to vote to elect the first woman president.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/now-clinton-campaign-blames-women-loss-internalized-misogyny/
 
peppy said:
jmoney74 said:
eyephone said:
What is wrong with deporting illegal felons to their country or origin?

right?  Saw some headlines today.. and they were like it's in the millions.. and I'm thinking.. so?  Get them out!

The problem is that Trump is calling for anyone being arrested to have removal proceedings initiated against them WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS. Even if you are in the country illegally, you get a day in court. Constitutional challenge, here we come.

So, what about the rights of the US citizens who were victims of these crimes?
 
peppy said:
jmoney74 said:
eyephone said:
What is wrong with deporting illegal felons to their country or origin?

right?  Saw some headlines today.. and they were like it's in the millions.. and I'm thinking.. so?  Get them out!

The problem is that Trump is calling for anyone being arrested to have removal proceedings initiated against them WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS. Even if you are in the country illegally, you get a day in court. Constitutional challenge, here we come.

Quick question to you, I know it's popular right now to go against Trump for his famous "build the wall" remarks and his remarks against illegals, but where was your supposed "DUE PROCESS" when Obama did exactly the same thing.

Directly from article, "President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief." Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn?t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

I'm no trump supporter but if they are illegal and felons...let's ship them out! Why are we using tax dollars to support them? 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
 
SoclosetoIrvine said:
peppy said:
jmoney74 said:
eyephone said:
What is wrong with deporting illegal felons to their country or origin?

right?  Saw some headlines today.. and they were like it's in the millions.. and I'm thinking.. so?  Get them out!

The problem is that Trump is calling for anyone being arrested to have removal proceedings initiated against them WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS. Even if you are in the country illegally, you get a day in court. Constitutional challenge, here we come.

Quick question to you, I know it's popular right now to go against Trump for his famous "build the wall" remarks and his remarks against illegals, but where was your supposed "DUE PROCESS" when Obama did exactly the same thing.

Directly from article, "President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief." Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn?t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

I'm no trump supporter but if they are illegal and felons...let's ship them out! Why are we using tax dollars to support them? 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

I'm not against deportations. The difference is "convicted criminal" vs "arrested individual".
 
peppy said:
I'm not against deportations. The difference is "convicted criminal" vs "arrested individual".

You let enough illegals come in, there will be criminals, gangsters, drug dealers, murderers and rapists in the group.
 
Movingup said:
peppy said:
I'm not against deportations. The difference is "convicted criminal" vs "arrested individual".

You let enough illegals come in, there will be criminals, gangsters, drug dealers, murderers and rapists in the group.

Isn't that true for ANY population?
 
peppy said:
Movingup said:
peppy said:
I'm not against deportations. The difference is "convicted criminal" vs "arrested individual".
Yes. So do you agree less illegals, less likely legals will be the victims of criminal illegals?
You let enough illegals come in, there will be criminals, gangsters, drug dealers, murderers and rapists in the group.

Isn't that true for ANY population?

Yes. Do you agree less illegals is likely  decrease the chances of legals victimized by criminal illegals?
 
Movingup said:
peppy said:
Movingup said:
peppy said:
I'm not against deportations. The difference is "convicted criminal" vs "arrested individual".
Yes. So do you agree less illegals, less likely legals will be the victims of criminal illegals?
You let enough illegals come in, there will be criminals, gangsters, drug dealers, murderers and rapists in the group.

Isn't that true for ANY population?

Yes. Do you agree less illegals is likely  decrease the chances of legals victimized by criminal illegals?

Yes, I agree that with fewer people there will be fewer incidences of crime assuming rates stay the same. By that logic we shouldn't let any immigrants or visitors into the country.
 
peppy said:
Movingup said:
peppy said:
Movingup said:
peppy said:
I'm not against deportations. The difference is "convicted criminal" vs "arrested individual".
Yes. So do you agree less illegals, less likely legals will be the victims of criminal illegals?
You let enough illegals come in, there will be criminals, gangsters, drug dealers, murderers and rapists in the group.

Isn't that true for ANY population?

Yes. Do you agree less illegals is likely  decrease the chances of legals victimized by criminal illegals?

Yes, I agree that with fewer people there will be fewer incidences of crime assuming rates stay the same. By that logic we shouldn't let any immigrants or visitors into the country.

Who in the world said we shouldn't let any immigrants into the country? Are we talking about illegal immigration?
 
Movingup said:
peppy said:
Movingup said:
peppy said:
Movingup said:
peppy said:
I'm not against deportations. The difference is "convicted criminal" vs "arrested individual".
Yes. So do you agree less illegals, less likely legals will be the victims of criminal illegals?
You let enough illegals come in, there will be criminals, gangsters, drug dealers, murderers and rapists in the group.

Isn't that true for ANY population?

Yes. Do you agree less illegals is likely  decrease the chances of legals victimized by criminal illegals?

Yes, I agree that with fewer people there will be fewer incidences of crime assuming rates stay the same. By that logic we shouldn't let any immigrants or visitors into the country.

Who in the world said we shouldn't let any immigrants into the country? Are we talking about illegal immigration?

Just following your logic since you were asking.
 
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