Presidential Elections

[Ready2Downsize]

I think that's the biggest problem with the Electoral College - everyone not living in a swing state, or near swing state, is disenfranchised.

Hillary will win the popular vote (as did Gore) but if we didn't have the electoral college who is to say the results wouldn't be even more skewed as no one pays attention to California. If we had a real fight and campaigning here, who's to say the dems would have as many votes as they did?

Take out California and Hillary loses the popular vote.

 

[eyephone]

Yes but I know a lot of guys like that.

It's different for men and women. Women look to other women as equals and helpers. We don't view men the same way.

I think Martha Stewart probably is thought of by some with some of those qualities (and she's an ex con) but she is "helpful".

Hillary would be excluded by lots of clicks and Martha let in even though we know Martha probably is out for herself too the difference being she seems to help others improve.

I have nothing against a woman president, I just didn't want Hillary. Not enough to vote against her till she made the deplorable remark.

Fair enough, but the deplorable remark pales in comparison to Trump's many similar comments, no?

I already mentioned it earlier. It comes down to the campaign slogans. We all know Trump's slogans, but we don't remember any slogans from Hillary.

 

[Perspective]

I think that's the biggest problem with the Electoral College - everyone not living in a swing state, or near swing state, is disenfranchised.

Hillary will win the popular vote (as did Gore) but if we didn't have the electoral college who is to say the results wouldn't be even more skewed as no one pays attention to California. If we had a real fight and campaigning here, who's to say the dems would have as many votes as they did?

Take out California and Hillary loses the popular vote.

I'm not speculating on who would've won the popular vote in the absence of the Electoral College. I'm suggesting Presidential candidates should be forced to fight for voters' support in all 50 states, not just ~10 or so every Presidential election. Then all of our votes would actually count, and perhaps more of us would vote.

 

[jmoney74]

Yes but I know a lot of guys like that.

It's different for men and women. Women look to other women as equals and helpers. We don't view men the same way.

I think Martha Stewart probably is thought of by some with some of those qualities (and she's an ex con) but she is "helpful".

Hillary would be excluded by lots of clicks and Martha let in even though we know Martha probably is out for herself too the difference being she seems to help others improve.

I have nothing against a woman president, I just didn't want Hillary. Not enough to vote against her till she made the deplorable remark.

Fair enough, but the deplorable remark pales in comparison to Trump's many similar comments, no?

I already mentioned it earlier. It comes down to the campaign slogans. We all know Trump's slogans, but we don't remember any slogans from Hillary.

Interesting pulling up trumps old interviews. Hes very moderate. Well see what he actually ends up doing.

 

[YellowFever]

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[riznick]

I already mentioned it earlier. It comes down to the campaign slogans. We all know Trump's slogans, but we don't remember any slogans from Hillary.

True true

And what does "I'm with her" imply?  We all know it has more meaning.

 

[Perspective]

Ku Klux Klan to hold North Carolina rally celebrating Trump victory
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ku-klux-klan-hold-north-230227525.html

 

[nosuchreality]

Look at these basket of deplorables now blocking the 10 FWY in LA.  Last night it was the 101.

Now it really makes sense to round these people up and deport them!
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/11/10/protesters-block-10-freeway-in-boyle-heights/

The media keeps telling me these are massive protests, but to me it always looks like a smaller crowd that the one that's pushing and shoving on TV for the black Friday deals at a single Walmart that will coat our TV screens in a couple weeks.

 

[YellowFever]

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[jmoney74]

Black thugs were celebrating obama. So what. Pbama didn't represent them nor help them during his reign.

 

[YellowFever]

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[nyc to oc]

Keep it a few weeks, protests will end and people will realize, it ain't so bad after all.

And then just watch, for the impossible in 2020, Trump is RE-Elected for a 2nd term.  Now that, will be epic!  Won't be quite as epic as the 1st election but will certainly show that even the most ruthless presidents can win the votes twice!

First order of business, let's get started with that special prosecutor shall we? 
Then we round them up and deport.
Then we build the wall.
Then we bring the jobs back.
Making America Great Now

just wait, he'll be after you next.
manzanar part 2

 

[jmoney74]

Keep it a few weeks, protests will end and people will realize, it ain't so bad after all.

And then just watch, for the impossible in 2020, Trump is RE-Elected for a 2nd term.  Now that, will be epic!  Won't be quite as epic as the 1st election but will certainly show that even the most ruthless presidents can win the votes twice!

First order of business, let's get started with that special prosecutor shall we? 
Then we round them up and deport.
Then we build the wall.
Then we bring the jobs back.
Making America Great Now

I doubt we do mass deportations.

 

[Perspective]

Keep it a few weeks, protests will end and people will realize, it ain't so bad after all.

And then just watch, for the impossible in 2020, Trump is RE-Elected for a 2nd term.  Now that, will be epic!  Won't be quite as epic as the 1st election but will certainly show that even the most ruthless presidents can win the votes twice!

First order of business, let's get started with that special prosecutor shall we? 
Then we round them up and deport.
Then we build the wall.
Then we bring the jobs back.
Making America Great Now

I doubt we do mass deportations.

That's all you doubt? There will be no wall (new wall at least), and the rate of job growth is not going to outpace its current pace.

 

[jmoney74]

Keep it a few weeks, protests will end and people will realize, it ain't so bad after all.

And then just watch, for the impossible in 2020, Trump is RE-Elected for a 2nd term.  Now that, will be epic!  Won't be quite as epic as the 1st election but will certainly show that even the most ruthless presidents can win the votes twice!

First order of business, let's get started with that special prosecutor shall we? 
Then we round them up and deport.
Then we build the wall.
Then we bring the jobs back.
Making America Great Now

I doubt we do mass deportations.

That's all you doubt? There will be no wall (new wall at least), and the rate of job growth is not going to outpace its current pace.

You still jabbering?

 

[Perspective]

Keep it a few weeks, protests will end and people will realize, it ain't so bad after all.

And then just watch, for the impossible in 2020, Trump is RE-Elected for a 2nd term.  Now that, will be epic!  Won't be quite as epic as the 1st election but will certainly show that even the most ruthless presidents can win the votes twice!

First order of business, let's get started with that special prosecutor shall we? 
Then we round them up and deport.
Then we build the wall.
Then we bring the jobs back.
Making America Great Now

I doubt we do mass deportations.

That's all you doubt? There will be no wall (new wall at least), and the rate of job growth is not going to outpace its current pace.

You still jabbering?

Are you asking me to leave?

 

[morekaos]

This is why Trumpsters hate the press.  A mainstream media outlet that wants to push a narrative that Trump people...not Hillary supporters, are causing racial violence.  They quote an incident as fact that already has been refuted in support for a story released 2 hours ago....deplorable!!

Reports of racist graffiti, hate crimes post-election

By Holly Yan, Ralph Ellis and Kayla Rodgers, CNN
Updated 9:50 AM ET, Fri November 11, 2016

(CNN)Fears of heightened bigotry and hate crimes have turned into reality for some Americans after Donald Trump's presidential win.

Racist, pro-Trump graffiti painted inside a high school. A hijab-wearing college student robbed by men talking about Trump and Muslims.
While Trump has been accused of fostering xenophobia and Islamophobia, some of his supporters have used his words as justification to carry out hateful act.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/us/post-election-hate-crimes-and-fears-trnd/index.html

Muslim Student Who Reported Trump-Inspired Attack Admits She Made It Up, Police Say

A Muslim woman in Louisiana who told police she was attacked with a metal object and robbed of her headscarf and wallet by two men wearing Donald Trump clothing just hours after Trump was elected president admitted to police today that she made it up, Lafayette police told ABC News.

?She made up the entire story about being attacked, about her hijab being taken. There was no truth to any of it,? Lafayette Police Department spokesman Cpl. Karol Ratcliff said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/muslim-student-reported-trump-inspired-attack-admits-made/story?id=43442471

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I already mentioned it earlier. It comes down to the campaign slogans. We all know Trump's slogans, but we don't remember any slogans from Hillary.

I'm with her.

Trumped up trickle down economics.

Fact checking.

<shoulder shimmy>

 

[irvinehomeowner]

The irony is that prior to the election, the talking heads were making a big deal about Trump not conceding and how he will be a poor loser.

So, uh, what are those riots for?

 

[Liar Loan]

I already mentioned it earlier. It comes down to the campaign slogans. We all know Trump's slogans, but we don't remember any slogans from Hillary.

I'm with her.

Trumped up trickle down economics.

Fact checking.

<shoulder shimmy>

Scott Adams' blog was a fun read throughout the election season, and one post I particularly enjoyed was when he explained how the "Love Trumps Hate" slogan failed on so many levels.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143789982926/clinton-versus-trump-persuasion-scores

LOVE TRUMPS HATE

Based on the slogan, I can tell you with confidence that the Clinton campaign doesn?t have anyone with a persuasion background helping with the big decisions. Here?s why:

1. Humans put greater cognitive weight on the first part of a sentence than the last part. This is a well-understood phenomenon. And the first part literally pairs LOVE and TRUMP.

2. The slogan increases exposure to the name Trump. That?s never a good idea.

3. Spoken aloud, the slogan sounds like asking people to agree with Trump?s hate, as in ?Love Trump?s hate (because Trump hates war, terrorism, and bad trade deals, same as you?).

This is the sort of mistake you never see out of the Trump campaign. The slogan is pure amateur hour. It accomplishes the opposite of its intent, and you can?t fail harder than that.

He also did a breakdown of why "We're Stronger Together" was not as effective as "Make America Great Again":
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/144816352346/battle-of-the-campaign-slogans

And on a personal level, I can say that anytime I saw the online banner ad for "I'm With Her" it reminded me of a Mad Magazine cover that I saw after the re-election of Bush: