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SoclosetoIrvine said:
Happiness said:
Recreational pot.  Muy Bueno.

I'm voting yes on this.  Prob 64 legalization of marijuana
I don't smoke but the tax implications are huge.  People that want it get ahold of it anyways so why not regulate it?  I do believe in the health benefits of it for medical use
http://taxfoundation.org/article/ma...-lessons-other-states-colorado-and-washington

Have you seen that minivan picture with the parents high and toddler in the backseat?

Source:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...cture-parents-ohio-police-child-a7235621.html
 
SoclosetoIrvine said:
So Whose voting what?  :P

I'm probably going to sit this election out.  I don't like either candidate.  One should be in jail and the other might start a world war.  I would love a woman president but not her (michelle Obama might be a decent choice in the future) and I would love a non politician (but not him)...i'll just close my eyes and pray  >:D
How much do you know about Michelle Obama to think she might be a decent choice in the future?  Is it simply because she is the wife of the current president and she can pick his brain?  I mean, of all the women in America, why choose her?  Is there none more qualified?  Serious question.  I am curious how people think.

Take Hillary Clinton...  While she's the wife of a former president, she has worked on her resume to become a viable candidate.  She's worked in executive roles, legislative roles and legal roles.  She certainly has the experience to qualify her without the novelty of being Bill's wife.  Being Bill Clinton's wife gives her an edge, however.  I would actually support her if she wasn't so dishonest with the identity politics.  I would support her if she didn't cater to identities (vote for me because you are black.  vote for me because you are a woman...)  I would support her if she wasn't so dishonest about her mistakes and her own actions.  I'd support her if I agreed more with her platform, and I agree with some of it...  That said, I think she has the experience.  What has Michelle Obama done to get an endorsement for POTUS?

If you don't like either candidate, I suggest voting for a 3rd party to help send a message.  I bet that Hillary will win California by a landslide.  California is an all or none state, so basically votes for Trump don't matter here.
 
I'm all for decriminalizing marijuana but I don't know if we're ready for all the issues that come with this.

How do we regulate homegrowers so they don't blow up their neighborhoods?

Is there a provision to prohibit smoking in spaces that tobacco smoke is prohibited? And what legal protections do you have if your neighbor's smoke drifts into your house?

Is there a way to quantitatively measure if someone is too high to drive?

FYI haven't read the whole prop. Maybe some of things are covered...
 
spootieho said:
SoclosetoIrvine said:
So Whose voting what?  :P

I'm probably going to sit this election out.  I don't like either candidate.  One should be in jail and the other might start a world war.  I would love a woman president but not her (michelle Obama might be a decent choice in the future) and I would love a non politician (but not him)...i'll just close my eyes and pray  >:D
How much do you know about Michelle Obama to think she might be a decent choice in the future?  Is it simply because she is the wife of the current president and she can pick his brain?  I mean, of all the women in America, why choose her?  Is there none more qualified?  Serious question.  I am curious how people think.

Take Hillary Clinton...  While she's the wife of a former president, she has worked on her resume to become a viable candidate.  She's worked in executive roles, legislative roles and legal roles.  She certainly has the experience to qualify her without the novelty of being Bill's wife.  Being Bill Clinton's wife gives her an edge, however.  I would actually support her if she wasn't so dishonest with the identity politics.  I would support her if she didn't cater to identities (vote for me because you are black.  vote for me because you are a woman...)  I would support her if she wasn't so dishonest about her mistakes and her own actions.  I'd support her if I agreed more with her platform, and I agree with some of it...  That said, I think she has the experience.  What has Michelle Obama done to get an endorsement for POTUS?

If you don't like either candidate, I suggest voting for a 3rd party to help send a message.  I bet that Hillary will win California by a landslide.  California is an all or none state, so basically votes for Trump don't matter here.

Whoa, that was an aggressive retort. I think it was just a political observation that she'd probably do very well in a Presidential election - i.e. substitute Michelle Obama for Hillary Clinton and maybe this election is an Electoral College landslide for the Democrats?

She's a Princeton undergrad and Harvard Law grad. There's that. (I know the Talk Irvine crowd LOVES them some prestige!)
 
eyephone said:
So who won the undercard debate?

#atwork

IMO, Pence won, but not sure if that matters at all. Kaine was pretty annoying and awful.  It's like he came to battle Trump and not Pence.  Kaine couldn't go more than a couple of seconds without interrupting Pence.  Kaine did use a lot of short sighted talking points, though, which does win votes from the ignorant.

For perspective, I thought Hillary won the first debate.

CNN Resultshttp://www.cnn.com/2016/10/05/politics/mike-pence-tim-kaine-vp-debate-poll/index.html
 
spootieho said:
eyephone said:
So who won the undercard debate?

#atwork

IMO, Pence won, but not sure if that matters at all. Kaine was pretty annoying and awful.  It's like he came to battle Trump and not Pence.  Kaine couldn't go more than a couple of seconds without interrupting Pence.  Kaine did use a lot of short sighted talking points, though, which does win votes from the ignorant.

For perspective, I thought Hillary won the first debate.

CNN Resultshttp://www.cnn.com/2016/10/05/politics/mike-pence-tim-kaine-vp-debate-poll/index.html

What's difficult to forget, is Kaine continuously rudely interrupting Pence. That's the main takeaway. However, it was inexplicable why Pence blatantly lied about what Trump has said, on many occasions. Statements Pence made in this debate will follow any Presidential aspirations he has.
 
WTTCHMN said:
Perspective said:
She's a Princeton undergrad and Harvard Law grad. There's that. (I know the Talk Irvine crowd LOVES them some prestige!)

Affirmative action admits don't count.

This is a classic Trump comment - insulting while assuming facts, and even if accepted as true, irrelevant in the big picture. Do you know she was an affirmative action admit? Even if true, it's not like her qualifications would've been anything more than slightly different than non-affirmative action admittees.

Aren't a third of Ivy admits legacy related? Do we "count" them?
 
So can we vote for Pence instead of Trump or Hillary?

Or maybe we vote Trump, impeach him because you know he'll do something stupid and then we have Pence for prez?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
So can we vote for Pence instead of Trump or Hillary?

Or maybe we vote Trump, impeach him because you know he'll do something stupid and then we have Pence for prez?

Yes, if you want an extreme social conservative in the Oval Office.
 
Perspective said:
irvinehomeowner said:
So can we vote for Pence instead of Trump or Hillary?

Or maybe we vote Trump, impeach him because you know he'll do something stupid and then we have Pence for prez?

Yes, if you want an extreme social conservative in the Oval Office.

Boo... I want a financial conservative. I don't mind socially liberal as long as they are not about using government funding to create a welfare state.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Perspective said:
irvinehomeowner said:
So can we vote for Pence instead of Trump or Hillary?

Or maybe we vote Trump, impeach him because you know he'll do something stupid and then we have Pence for prez?

Yes, if you want an extreme social conservative in the Oval Office.

Boo... I want a financial conservative. I don't mind socially liberal as long as they are not about using government funding to create a welfare state.

Speaking of the "welfare state," I heard a good line yesterday - "The same Republicans who are applauding Trump's 'genius' use of the tax code to benefit from the tax system financially, decry poor folk for their use of the 'welfare' system to benefit financially."
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Perspective said:
irvinehomeowner said:
So can we vote for Pence instead of Trump or Hillary?

Or maybe we vote Trump, impeach him because you know he'll do something stupid and then we have Pence for prez?

Yes, if you want an extreme social conservative in the Oval Office.

Boo... I want a financial conservative. I don't mind socially liberal as long as they are not about using government funding to create a welfare state.

RWW News: Mike Pence Criticizes Theory Of Evolutionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikax0Y0NJsY
 
Perspective said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Perspective said:
irvinehomeowner said:
So can we vote for Pence instead of Trump or Hillary?

Or maybe we vote Trump, impeach him because you know he'll do something stupid and then we have Pence for prez?

Yes, if you want an extreme social conservative in the Oval Office.

Boo... I want a financial conservative. I don't mind socially liberal as long as they are not about using government funding to create a welfare state.

Speaking of the "welfare state," I heard a good line yesterday - "The same Republicans who are applauding Trump's 'genius' use of the tax code to benefit from the tax system financially, decry poor folk for their use of the 'welfare' system to benefit financially."

Opposite sides of the same spigot.
 
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