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Soylent Green Is People said:
With the Olympics and Back To School, no one really is paying any attention to the details. There's no sense investing in ads during August. Expect things to warp into overdrive after 9/15/16 (post "I'm the bigger 9/11 patriot" hoo-ha) with the inevitable "October Surprise" coming. People have very, very short memories and minds get made up late in the game. All the stuff going on now is keeping the base from falling asleep.

I enjoy hearing from the Right that Trump was put in the election cycle to aid the Clinton's to win in November, then after the DNC E-mail dump, the Left was all "Trump and Putin are forming the VOLTRON of DOOM, trying to defeat Hillary". Which is it? He's a plant or he's really in it?

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Trump is neither a plant or 'really in it`.  I think he's willingly in this election for publicity purposes.  I don't think he really wants the job.  If he can make the election close (from a popular vote standpoint) but lose the electoral college, he'll be very happy with that.  He can go back to his day job with much more visibility and he can claim that he won the popular vote. 
 
paydawg said:
Soylent Green Is People said:
With the Olympics and Back To School, no one really is paying any attention to the details. There's no sense investing in ads during August. Expect things to warp into overdrive after 9/15/16 (post "I'm the bigger 9/11 patriot" hoo-ha) with the inevitable "October Surprise" coming. People have very, very short memories and minds get made up late in the game. All the stuff going on now is keeping the base from falling asleep.

I enjoy hearing from the Right that Trump was put in the election cycle to aid the Clinton's to win in November, then after the DNC E-mail dump, the Left was all "Trump and Putin are forming the VOLTRON of DOOM, trying to defeat Hillary". Which is it? He's a plant or he's really in it?

My .02c
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Trump is neither a plant or 'really in it`.  I think he's willingly in this election for publicity purposes.  I don't think he really wants the job.  If he can make the election close (from a popular vote standpoint) but lose the electoral college, he'll be very happy with that.  He can go back to his day job with much more visibility and he can claim that he won the popular vote.
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He's already planning his vacation. Idk
 
...and we are still a looong way out.  Careful in putting too much faith in the bouncing poll numbers.  As much as I hate the sayin...This time is a bit different.

Is Hillary's bounce deflating? Now she is only three points ahead of Trump in latest national poll

The latest national poll has Hillary Clinton only three points up against Donald Trump after several post-Democratic National Convention surveys had her beating her Republican rival by double-digits.

The new Rasmussen Reports four-way poll has Clinton leading the pack with 43 percent of likely voters supporting her, compared to Trump's 40 percent, which is within the poll's plus-or-minus 3 percent margin of error. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3734800/Is-Hillary-s-bounce-deflating-three-points-ahead-Trump-latest-national-poll.html
 
morekaos said:
...and we are still a looong way out.  Careful in putting too much faith in the bouncing poll numbers.  As much as I hate the sayin...This time is a bit different.

Is Hillary's bounce deflating? Now she is only three points ahead of Trump in latest national poll

The latest national poll has Hillary Clinton only three points up against Donald Trump after several post-Democratic National Convention surveys had her beating her Republican rival by double-digits.

The new Rasmussen Reports four-way poll has Clinton leading the pack with 43 percent of likely voters supporting her, compared to Trump's 40 percent, which is within the poll's plus-or-minus 3 percent margin of error. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3734800/Is-Hillary-s-bounce-deflating-three-points-ahead-Trump-latest-national-poll.html
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Yes, polls can change dramatically over the next three months, but let's not use one national poll to suggest this race is close today. Nate Silver's system captures all of the current polls and breaks it down:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

TODAY, Clinton's probability of winning is 86.2% to Trump's 13.8%.
 
morekaos said:
...and we are still a looong way out.  Careful in putting too much faith in the bouncing poll numbers.  As much as I hate the sayin...This time is a bit different.

Is Hillary's bounce deflating? Now she is only three points ahead of Trump in latest national poll

The latest national poll has Hillary Clinton only three points up against Donald Trump after several post-Democratic National Convention surveys had her beating her Republican rival by double-digits.

The new Rasmussen Reports four-way poll has Clinton leading the pack with 43 percent of likely voters supporting her, compared to Trump's 40 percent, which is within the poll's plus-or-minus 3 percent margin of error. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3734800/Is-Hillary-s-bounce-deflating-three-points-ahead-Trump-latest-national-poll.html
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I believe Mondale won 40% of the vote in '84 and still only won 1 state.  1.  Landslide victory for Reagan with less than 60% of the popular vote. 
 
Yeah, it's why republicans were calling him a RINO early on.  Prior to running, his views were quite different.  I find that I agreed with him more frequently in the past.  He is a salesperson, though, and says whatever people want to hear.

I think that part of his appeal is uncertainty.  People are certain the other politicians will f things up.  Since trump flip flops and can't keep any story straight, there is a chance that some of the things he says is what his supporters want.
 
The fear is that some people want to kill gays, and those people shouldn't be allowed in the country.  The fear is that some people don't believe women should be equal and those people shouldn't be allowed in the country.  The fear is that some people want to kill those that don't follow their religion and those people shouldn't be allowed in the country.
 
Trump is walking-back all of his extreme immigration and foreign policy rhetoric. His support from non-white/male/non-college educated Republicans seems to revolve around hope he'll cut taxes dramatically and appoint "conservative" judges to SCOTUS.

Unfortunately for folks who want more "conservative" judges on SCOTUS, Trump is currently killing this prospect in two ways: handing the Presidency to a Democrat and turning the Senate over to the Democrats:

The GOP?s Chances Of Holding The Senate Are Following Trump Downhillhttp://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/
 
Let's be honest both candidates are not people's top choice.

Perspective said:
Trump is walking-back all of his extreme immigration and foreign policy rhetoric. His support from non-white/male/non-college educated Republicans seems to revolve around hope he'll cut taxes dramatically and appoint "conservative" judges to SCOTUS.

Unfortunately for folks who want more "conservative" judges on SCOTUS, Trump is currently killing this prospect in two ways: handing the Presidency to a Democrat and turning the Senate over to the Democrats:

The GOP?s Chances Of Holding The Senate Are Following Trump Downhillhttp://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/
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eyephone said:
Let's be honest both candidates are not people's top choice.

Perspective said:
Trump is walking-back all of his extreme immigration and foreign policy rhetoric. His support from non-white/male/non-college educated Republicans seems to revolve around hope he'll cut taxes dramatically and appoint "conservative" judges to SCOTUS.

Unfortunately for folks who want more "conservative" judges on SCOTUS, Trump is currently killing this prospect in two ways: handing the Presidency to a Democrat and turning the Senate over to the Democrats:

The GOP?s Chances Of Holding The Senate Are Following Trump Downhillhttp://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/
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Agreed. Both candidates have serious deep flaws. I just find Trump an unbelievably despicable human being, regardless of wherever his policies stand (today).
 
Before yesterday, I just assumed Breitbart was "Fox News online." Wow! It ain't that! Has anyone visited this site and read some of the articles. This Bannon guy now heading Trump's campaign is insanely extreme, but I guess this is what Trump's been reading for years fueling his ideas.
 
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