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My understanding is, they rule against the executive order. Trump, et al. will now decide whether to appeal to the Supreme court. But it is going to be an uphill battle. It seems like the best will be a 4-4 split and the 9th circuit court ruling prevails.
This is a typical example that when you keep pounding on the same talking point, enough uneducated people will believe it. People revoke Trump and paint him as a racist and banning Muslim. Show me where the ban mentions Muslim?
I re-read the conversation and I still don't understand. Can you please clear it up for me?
My ignorant self thinks that Trumps executive order on the ban is more valid than many of the other executive orders we have seen.
The number of executive orders shouldn't matter. They exist for a reason. IMO the content of the executive orders matters.
I agree that it felt like the way Obama used executive orders set up a bad precedent for future presidents. Sadly, we pretty much knew that whoever got elected this year was going to take advantage of executive orders as much as possible.
When you're labelling others uneducated, you should be very careful with your grammar. Otherwise, it provides humor for those reading your thoughts.
But do we know for a FACT that Trump just irritated the judge he wants for the supreme court? You never know what is in trump's head. MAYBE it was setup. MAYBE Trump and the judge are getting in the heads of the Dems...... hey this judge is an independent thinker and won't be swayed by Trump so I guess maybe it's ok to let this one on the court cuz who knows who we might see as Trump's next pick.
Hmmm........... an interesting strategy.
I am very interested to see examples how President Trump going out of his way using executive orders to demonize the political, legal process. Please, let us know.
Obama held his office to the highest standards, here are a few glowing examples under his watch:
Traded Traitor Bergdahl for 5 Taliban terrorists + a Rose Garden ceremony
Obama said "not a smidgen of corruption" in the IRS targeting conservatives
Lois Lerner pleading the 5th for how many times?
Susan Rice talking points about Benghazi attack was a spontaneous act of violence
He paid $1.7 billion ransom to Iran for testing ballistic missiles
Veterans died while on waiting list to see doctors and the VA cover the medical records
Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats
I don't have time to further expand his resume.
Wow , you do have your Hannity down - great list of Fox News talking points.
But ... but .. email server ... but .... but Clinton foundation ... but .... Benghazi ... seems like a distant memory now doesn't it ? When this nitwit in the Oval Office kills 30 civilians and one US servicemember with nothing to show for it.
Wouldn't you trade the email server now for Mike Flynn selling state secrets to the Russian goon.
Wouldn't you trade Obama's supposed sin when he blamed Cambridge police for profiling a Harvard professor for the constant deluge of insults flowing out of Trump's mouth.
Keep convincing yourself that there is an equivalence , just so you can feel less guilty . But it is obvious to anyone that the scandals and b/s happening now are way beyond anything that has gone in this country in our living lifetimes. This cannot be normalized.
Happiness said:
My understanding is, they rule against the executive order. Trump, et al. will now decide whether to appeal to the Supreme court. But it is going to be an uphill battle. It seems like the best will be a 4-4 split and the 9th circuit court ruling prevails.
This is a typical example that when you keep pounding on the same talking point, enough uneducated people will believe it. People revoke Trump and paint him as a racist and banning Muslim. Show me where the ban mentions Muslim?
tim
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eyephone said:If you read the conversation Perpective and I had. Then you will understand why I asked the question. I asked you the question because you entered into the conversation and made a comment.
I re-read the conversation and I still don't understand. Can you please clear it up for me?
Guys be thankful this country still has functioning courts which can oppose a sitting president who happens to be a whacko. Grateful that we are not an Emerging Market dictatorship just yet.
I think in a perverse way, the silver lining in the election of this real estate hustler is a much needed jolt for our democracy . People who were sitting on the sidelines are now finally engaged and asserting their rights. No one can take this republic for granted.
I think in a perverse way, the silver lining in the election of this real estate hustler is a much needed jolt for our democracy . People who were sitting on the sidelines are now finally engaged and asserting their rights. No one can take this republic for granted.
Movingup said:
My ignorant self thinks that Trumps executive order on the ban is more valid than many of the other executive orders we have seen.
The number of executive orders shouldn't matter. They exist for a reason. IMO the content of the executive orders matters.
I agree that it felt like the way Obama used executive orders set up a bad precedent for future presidents. Sadly, we pretty much knew that whoever got elected this year was going to take advantage of executive orders as much as possible.
more than half of trump voters support trump overturning judges - ha
living in newport beach / irvine area we highfalutin conservatives may convince ourselves that we are all for constitution etc -- but this is the party now ... the party of trump. that supports overturning constitutional law so long as their leader can get his way ... sound like a cult ?
since we are all so tied and in love with our fancy neighborhoods and lofty home prices -- lets not forget the most paramount factor in supporting asset valuations - rule of law and more importantly, stability of the system - where laws don't change on the whims of a single man (or woman).
I never liked obama's executive orders but atleast he didnt go out of his way to demonize the political and legal process. In fact, Obamacare challenge did go all the way to the supreme court where justice Roberts ( a coservative, mind you) decided in favor of ACA. Obama held his office to the highest standards throughout the process.
living in newport beach / irvine area we highfalutin conservatives may convince ourselves that we are all for constitution etc -- but this is the party now ... the party of trump. that supports overturning constitutional law so long as their leader can get his way ... sound like a cult ?
since we are all so tied and in love with our fancy neighborhoods and lofty home prices -- lets not forget the most paramount factor in supporting asset valuations - rule of law and more importantly, stability of the system - where laws don't change on the whims of a single man (or woman).
I never liked obama's executive orders but atleast he didnt go out of his way to demonize the political and legal process. In fact, Obamacare challenge did go all the way to the supreme court where justice Roberts ( a coservative, mind you) decided in favor of ACA. Obama held his office to the highest standards throughout the process.
Perspective
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Movingup said:
When you're labelling others uneducated, you should be very careful with your grammar. Otherwise, it provides humor for those reading your thoughts.
Ready2Downsize
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spootieho said:
But do we know for a FACT that Trump just irritated the judge he wants for the supreme court? You never know what is in trump's head. MAYBE it was setup. MAYBE Trump and the judge are getting in the heads of the Dems...... hey this judge is an independent thinker and won't be swayed by Trump so I guess maybe it's ok to let this one on the court cuz who knows who we might see as Trump's next pick.
Hmmm........... an interesting strategy.
J
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Typical Perspective like responses. Maybe try using another screen name to agree that you shouldn't have to answer such childish questioning.
fortune11 said:
I am very interested to see examples how President Trump going out of his way using executive orders to demonize the political, legal process. Please, let us know.
Obama held his office to the highest standards, here are a few glowing examples under his watch:
Traded Traitor Bergdahl for 5 Taliban terrorists + a Rose Garden ceremony
Obama said "not a smidgen of corruption" in the IRS targeting conservatives
Lois Lerner pleading the 5th for how many times?
Susan Rice talking points about Benghazi attack was a spontaneous act of violence
He paid $1.7 billion ransom to Iran for testing ballistic missiles
Veterans died while on waiting list to see doctors and the VA cover the medical records
Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats
I don't have time to further expand his resume.
morekaos
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irvinehomeowner
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SCOTUS vs SCPOTUS!
(let's see if someone gets my acronym)
(let's see if someone gets my acronym)
Movingup said:
Wow , you do have your Hannity down - great list of Fox News talking points.
But ... but .. email server ... but .... but Clinton foundation ... but .... Benghazi ... seems like a distant memory now doesn't it ? When this nitwit in the Oval Office kills 30 civilians and one US servicemember with nothing to show for it.
Wouldn't you trade the email server now for Mike Flynn selling state secrets to the Russian goon.
Wouldn't you trade Obama's supposed sin when he blamed Cambridge police for profiling a Harvard professor for the constant deluge of insults flowing out of Trump's mouth.
Keep convincing yourself that there is an equivalence , just so you can feel less guilty . But it is obvious to anyone that the scandals and b/s happening now are way beyond anything that has gone in this country in our living lifetimes. This cannot be normalized.