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Perspective said:
Perspective said:
Going for an emotional response

So why does Trump care so much about the minuscule risk of foreign terrorism? Here?s a guess: Because it?s hard to get voters riled up about Americans harming Americans. It?s a lot easier to trigger an emotional response about foreigners harming Americans?even if that harm is largely theoretical. Creating villains people can blame their problems on has been the modus operandi of demagogues for centuries.

Extend this to Trump?s economic agenda. Trump has largely blamed China and Mexico for taking the jobs of hard-working Americans. Many economists and business leaders say that?s vastly overstated, because the long-term decline in US manufacturing employment is largely due to robots and automation doing more and more of the work humans used to do. But Trump has said nothing about automation. Robots and algorithms aren?t very satisfying villains. Chinese and Mexican workers, by contrast, fulfill the us-versus-them narrative that lets Trump play the hero, beating back the invaders.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-the-press-is-so-harsh-on-trump-192506378.html

Nailed it.

hhmmm... patting yourself on the back or you forgot to switch username to your alter-ego ?  :-[
 
I get it, you don't like guy or his policies, I hated everything Obama did but I really didn't lose any sleep over it.

I didn't like a lot of Obama's policies (I thought he should have been tougher on Wall Street and I was against all of the drone strikes), but at least he remained calm and gave the appearance of being level-headed.

Trump, on the other hand reminds me of a hysterical overly dramatic 13-year-old girl and it doesn't help that his spokespeople are equally frenzied with their frantic rhetoric. It' hard to be relaxed when the people around him give off the impression of incompetence.
 
I recall a similar cover right after Obama won in 08 so you never know
 

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Movingup said:
Perspective said:
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is conservatives don't respect, nor wish to protect, the Constitution, and they have forgotten Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214?

LOL. I realize you don't like to answer simple questions.

Simple yes or no answer.

Do you believe in the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America?

Do you stand up and respect the national anthem?

Why hasn't Perspective responded?
 
eyephone said:
Movingup said:
Perspective said:
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is conservatives don't respect, nor wish to protect, the Constitution, and they have forgotten Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214?

LOL. I realize you don't like to answer simple questions.

Simple yes or no answer.

Do you believe in the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America?

Do you stand up and respect the national anthem?

Why hasn't Perspective responded?

I am waiting for an answer too.

Bathroom break? Computer broke? Family emergency? I tried my best to give him the benefit of a doubt. But I won't be surprised if we will not get an answer. I have seen that many times, liberals don't usually answer questions, it's repeating talking points.
 
eyephone said:
Movingup said:
Perspective said:
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is conservatives don't respect, nor wish to protect, the Constitution, and they have forgotten Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214?

LOL. I realize you don't like to answer simple questions.

Simple yes or no answer.

Do you believe in the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America?

Do you stand up and respect the national anthem?

Why hasn't Perspective responded?

Not interested in answering silly questions. Share why you're asking these questions and what you think the prospective response might elicit?

Fun facts - i.e. not "alternative facts." Believe me!
 
Perspective said:
Perspective said:
Going for an emotional response

So why does Trump care so much about the minuscule risk of foreign terrorism? Here?s a guess: Because it?s hard to get voters riled up about Americans harming Americans. It?s a lot easier to trigger an emotional response about foreigners harming Americans?even if that harm is largely theoretical. Creating villains people can blame their problems on has been the modus operandi of demagogues for centuries.

Extend this to Trump?s economic agenda. Trump has largely blamed China and Mexico for taking the jobs of hard-working Americans. Many economists and business leaders say that?s vastly overstated, because the long-term decline in US manufacturing employment is largely due to robots and automation doing more and more of the work humans used to do. But Trump has said nothing about automation. Robots and algorithms aren?t very satisfying villains. Chinese and Mexican workers, by contrast, fulfill the us-versus-them narrative that lets Trump play the hero, beating back the invaders.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-the-press-is-so-harsh-on-trump-192506378.html

Nailed it.

This was odd
 
GH said:
Perspective said:
Perspective said:
Going for an emotional response

So why does Trump care so much about the minuscule risk of foreign terrorism? Here?s a guess: Because it?s hard to get voters riled up about Americans harming Americans. It?s a lot easier to trigger an emotional response about foreigners harming Americans?even if that harm is largely theoretical. Creating villains people can blame their problems on has been the modus operandi of demagogues for centuries.

Extend this to Trump?s economic agenda. Trump has largely blamed China and Mexico for taking the jobs of hard-working Americans. Many economists and business leaders say that?s vastly overstated, because the long-term decline in US manufacturing employment is largely due to robots and automation doing more and more of the work humans used to do. But Trump has said nothing about automation. Robots and algorithms aren?t very satisfying villains. Chinese and Mexican workers, by contrast, fulfill the us-versus-them narrative that lets Trump play the hero, beating back the invaders.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-the-press-is-so-harsh-on-trump-192506378.html

Nailed it.

hhmmm... patting yourself on the back or you forgot to switch username to your alter-ego ?  :-[

I noticed that also.
 
Movingup said:
Perspective said:
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is conservatives don't respect, nor wish to protect, the Constitution, and they have forgotten Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214?

LOL. I realize you don't like to answer simple questions.

Simple yes or no answer.

Do you believe in the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America?

Do you stand up and respect the national anthem?

Why would this matter to you? Is this some kind of grade-school patriotism test?

And you didn't even specify which version of the Pledge of Allegiance - the original or the one after "under God" was added.

You should also ask if he has ever given money to the ACLU or Planned Parenthood. And if he goes to a "proper" conservative Christian church.

Oh, ask him if he dodged the draft like our current President. Or if he has ever spent 7.5 years trying to undermine the legitimacy of an elected President.
 
eyephone said:
GH said:
Perspective said:
Perspective said:
Going for an emotional response

So why does Trump care so much about the minuscule risk of foreign terrorism? Here?s a guess: Because it?s hard to get voters riled up about Americans harming Americans. It?s a lot easier to trigger an emotional response about foreigners harming Americans?even if that harm is largely theoretical. Creating villains people can blame their problems on has been the modus operandi of demagogues for centuries.

Extend this to Trump?s economic agenda. Trump has largely blamed China and Mexico for taking the jobs of hard-working Americans. Many economists and business leaders say that?s vastly overstated, because the long-term decline in US manufacturing employment is largely due to robots and automation doing more and more of the work humans used to do. But Trump has said nothing about automation. Robots and algorithms aren?t very satisfying villains. Chinese and Mexican workers, by contrast, fulfill the us-versus-them narrative that lets Trump play the hero, beating back the invaders.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-the-press-is-so-harsh-on-trump-192506378.html

Nailed it.

hhmmm... patting yourself on the back or you forgot to switch username to your alter-ego ?  :-[

I noticed that also.


So perspective probably is another SN as well. Go back to see which names have agreed with him and there are your suspects.
 
Ready2Downsize said:
Just because they have a visa doesn't mean they aren't a criminal and are here intending to commit a crime. Irvine Realtor and I know of someone who fits that bill to a T and the guy had a visa and I will bet he overstays it and causes someone here some serious financial pain but till he does he's here legally.

Okay, so how would you change the vetting process?
 
tim said:
Movingup said:
Perspective said:
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is conservatives don't respect, nor wish to protect, the Constitution, and they have forgotten Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214?

LOL. I realize you don't like to answer simple questions.

Simple yes or no answer.

Do you believe in the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America?

Do you stand up and respect the national anthem?

Why would this matter to you? Is this some kind of grade-school patriotism test?

And you didn't even specify which version of the Pledge of Allegiance - the original or the one after "under God" was added.

You should also ask if he has ever given money to the ACLU or Planned Parenthood. And if he goes to a "proper" conservative Christian church.

Oh, ask him if he dodged the draft like our current President. Or if he has ever spent 7.5 years trying to undermine the legitimacy of an elected President.

Since you brought it up. How about yourself?
 
eyephone said:
tim said:
Movingup said:
Perspective said:
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is conservatives don't respect, nor wish to protect, the Constitution, and they have forgotten Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214?

LOL. I realize you don't like to answer simple questions.

Simple yes or no answer.

Do you believe in the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America?

Do you stand up and respect the national anthem?

Why would this matter to you? Is this some kind of grade-school patriotism test?

And you didn't even specify which version of the Pledge of Allegiance - the original or the one after "under God" was added.

You should also ask if he has ever given money to the ACLU or Planned Parenthood. And if he goes to a "proper" conservative Christian church.

Oh, ask him if he dodged the draft like our current President. Or if he has ever spent 7.5 years trying to undermine the legitimacy of an elected President.

Since you brought it up. How about yourself?

Why won't you say why you are asking?

I notice a lot of Trump supporters on here ask questions but don't say why they are asking, don't answer the questions themselves, and don't answer my questions when I ask.
 
I think we can all agree Trumps EO with the ban was a poorly thought out mess. 

It is my ignorant understanding that Trump's orders were valid.  If they weren't, then I wonder whether all the past orders were also violations and what it means for future presidents.  I'm not sure that the district courts are unbiased.  Shit the Supreme Court has it's own biases (which is one of the big reasons Trump was elected). 

What stops Trump from issuing a similar order that's more well thought out?

Whether the ban is allowed or not, Trump made the effort.  Hopefully, this will be a learning lesson for the future of his presidency that he can't just rush stuff out without giving it adequate consideration.  (I said hopefully, not likely, hopefully). 

Trump wanted 6 months while he puts together a better vetting program.  Let's see if that was his true intent and we see some stricter protocols within the next 5.5 months. All they have to be is something slightly better than what we have now.  I have a feeling that one of the following will happen: either nothing is proposed or something way to extreme is proposed. 
 
jmoney74 said:
eyephone said:
GH said:
Perspective said:
Perspective said:
Going for an emotional response

So why does Trump care so much about the minuscule risk of foreign terrorism? Here?s a guess: Because it?s hard to get voters riled up about Americans harming Americans. It?s a lot easier to trigger an emotional response about foreigners harming Americans?even if that harm is largely theoretical. Creating villains people can blame their problems on has been the modus operandi of demagogues for centuries.

Extend this to Trump?s economic agenda. Trump has largely blamed China and Mexico for taking the jobs of hard-working Americans. Many economists and business leaders say that?s vastly overstated, because the long-term decline in US manufacturing employment is largely due to robots and automation doing more and more of the work humans used to do. But Trump has said nothing about automation. Robots and algorithms aren?t very satisfying villains. Chinese and Mexican workers, by contrast, fulfill the us-versus-them narrative that lets Trump play the hero, beating back the invaders.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-the-press-is-so-harsh-on-trump-192506378.html

Nailed it.

hhmmm... patting yourself on the back or you forgot to switch username to your alter-ego ?  :-[

I noticed that also.


So perspective probably is another SN as well. Go back to see which names have agreed with him and there are your suspects.

Bumpppp
 
Relax conspiracy enthusiasts. I posted an excerpt and credited the source. No Melania writing here. I commented on the excerpt - probably should've modified prior post with comment. Didn't think it would engender such juvenile responses.
 
Perspective said:
Who cares to guess the next insult directed at Ninth Circuit judges now that they've ruled against Trump's Muslim Ban?
Did the 9th Cir rule against the EO, or just leave in place a TRO pending a final determination?
 
Perspective said:
Relax conspiracy enthusiasts. I posted an excerpt and credited the source. No Melania writing here. I commented on the excerpt - probably should've modified prior post with comment. Didn't think it would engender such juvenile responses.

Sure sure
 
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