Orchard Hills - Capella by Taylor Morrison

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Man, didn't you guys learn anything from Laguna Altura.  3 words: FCB's prefer exclusivity.

Go back and look at the Laguna Altura thread.  Everyone was bashing the location, saying it will never sell, saying only a fool would buy there, etc.  Now those owners have between 50%-75% increase in 3 years time, and yes plenty of closed sales to back it up. 

Sorry but, behind the gates wins - no matter how you slice it. 
 
Jonah said:
bones said:
strada owners piling it on!  wonder what the gap will be between these two tracts @ resale....
Ha ha.  I go to Capella from time to time and it helps validate my decision to buy Strada.  When the price differential between a house that is a couple of 200sqf bigger is 200k, I don't think it matters what the resale is.

Why do you have to validate purchase? Not being sarcastic, I'm deciding between Strada and Capella, but concern if someone needs to check on Capella after purchase.
 
aquabliss said:
Man, didn't you guys learn anything from Laguna Altura.  3 words: FCB's prefer exclusivity.

Go back and look at the Laguna Altura thread.  Everyone was bashing the location, saying it will never sell, saying only a fool would buy there, etc.  Now those owners have between 50%-75% increase in 3 years time, and yes plenty of closed sales to back it up. 

Sorry but, behind the gates wins - no matter how you slice it. 

Wasn't LA selling and raising their prices with each phase release?  Capella on the other hand is having to lower *gasp* prices and dump a bunch of unsold inventory on MLS.  I would even say it has the most MLS listing than any other development in OH.  Definitely not a good sign.
 
Irvine Fanatic said:
Jonah said:
bones said:
strada owners piling it on!  wonder what the gap will be between these two tracts @ resale....
Ha ha.  I go to Capella from time to time and it helps validate my decision to buy Strada.  When the price differential between a house that is a couple of 200sqf bigger is 200k, I don't think it matters what the resale is.

Why do you have to validate purchase? Not being sarcastic, I'm deciding between Strada and Capella, but concern if someone needs to check on Capella after purchase.

Haha. TI wouldn't exist without validation!  All those questions about how things are selling in what phase at what price?  Half of those questions come from existing owners/buyers under contract :)
 
Irvine Fanatic said:
Jonah said:
bones said:
strada owners piling it on!  wonder what the gap will be between these two tracts @ resale....
Ha ha.  I go to Capella from time to time and it helps validate my decision to buy Strada.  When the price differential between a house that is a couple of 200sqf bigger is 200k, I don't think it matters what the resale is.

Why do you have to validate purchase? Not being sarcastic, I'm deciding between Strada and Capella, but concern if someone needs to check on Capella after purchase.

We considered Capella and chose Strada. The higher price for the bigger house, wasn't worth what Strada could provide. For us, a decent backyard and end of cul-de-sac lot were big factors. A bonus was being in IUSD.

We also didn't want to deal with the gates, but that wasn't a dealbreaker. It's a mild annoyance every day for homeowners, and a big hassle for guests.
 
woodburyowner said:
aquabliss said:
Man, didn't you guys learn anything from Laguna Altura.  3 words: FCB's prefer exclusivity.

Go back and look at the Laguna Altura thread.  Everyone was bashing the location, saying it will never sell, saying only a fool would buy there, etc.  Now those owners have between 50%-75% increase in 3 years time, and yes plenty of closed sales to back it up. 

Sorry but, behind the gates wins - no matter how you slice it. 

Wasn't LA selling and raising their prices with each phase release?  Capella on the other hand is having to lower *gasp* prices and dump a bunch of unsold inventory on MLS.  I would even say it has the most MLS listing than any other development in OH.  Definitely not a good sign.

You can't compare the two - LA was also selling at a time where there wasn't a lot of inventory on the market, which Capella has a lot to compete with, not only in OH, but Hidden Canyon and other areas. Different times.

I think Capella is selling at a very decent pace considering both price point, and inventory on the market right now.
 
Perspective said:
Irvine Fanatic said:
Jonah said:
bones said:
strada owners piling it on!  wonder what the gap will be between these two tracts @ resale....
Ha ha.  I go to Capella from time to time and it helps validate my decision to buy Strada.  When the price differential between a house that is a couple of 200sqf bigger is 200k, I don't think it matters what the resale is.

Why do you have to validate purchase? Not being sarcastic, I'm deciding between Strada and Capella, but concern if someone needs to check on Capella after purchase.

We considered Capella and chose Strada. The higher price for the bigger house, wasn't worth what Strada could provide. For us, a decent backyard and end of cul-de-sac lot were big factors. A bonus was being in IUSD.

We also didn't want to deal with the gates, but that wasn't a dealbreaker. It's a mild annoyance every day for homeowners, and a big hassle for guests.

Its the ridiculous lot sizes at Capella, pure and simple. At least that's what killed it for us, as much as we liked the house.  I hope this sends a message to home builders as to what is the lower limit of yard sizes they can get away with at that price point.

Maaaaybe that could fly in the earlier phases when prices started at $1.2 I think? Its just ridiculous at $1.4M+.
 
If you look at the details/lots of the standing inventory for Capella, those are mostly bad Fengshui and bad location ones.  Either it's on T section or infront of six parking stalls or on the Horseback street where 3 neighbors are staring directly down on your backyard with no privacy.  For these bad lots, maybe you have the opportunity to negotiate and try to get a good pricing.  Good lots have all been taken so sales isn't all that bad as it seems.
 
Goriot said:
If you look at the details/lots of the standing inventory for Capella, those are mostly bad Fengshui and bad location ones.  Either it's on T section or infront of six parking stalls or on the Horseback street where 3 neighbors are staring directly down on your backyard with no privacy.  For these bad lots, maybe you have the opportunity to negotiate and try to get a good pricing.  Good lots have all been taken so sales isn't all that bad as it seems.

Understood, but at this price point, in this market, there are a ton of options available to these prospective buyers. In other words, if the Capella homes available have huge negatives for you, why even bother trying to get a deal on one?
 
Sounds like a lot of the people against buying Capella were ones that were holding out on the 1.2 price range before they hiked it up, and they're understandably, PO'd about that, as well as the lot sizes.

There will always be buyers for the outstanding inventory and those who will want to live behind the gates, but can deal with a small lot.
 
bones said:
But the RESORT is next door! Who needs lot size.
I don't want to traipse up to The Resort every time I want an outdoor fix bigger than a postage stamp.  Capella street design doesn't lend itself well to people being socialable either because, let's face it, it's a thoroughfare.  I've never seen a kid riding a bike at Capella, in fact you hardly ever see people out walking at The Groves unlike the IPC side.  What do older kids at Capella do once they've outgrown The Resort playground and their backyard is Barbie-sized?  Sit at home on their iPads?  There's nowhere for them to go - Settlers Park and the Village are too far away, and they can't really hang out with other neighborhood kids on those Capella streets either. 

I really like the Capella floor plans but the lot sizes/location/price were deal-breakers.  Gate/non gated wasn't an issue - I've lived in gated communities the past 10+ years and while they're great when you have small kids (no fast cars), that's about it.  They're certainly not going to keep ISIS out. 😜
 
Irvine Fanatic said:
Jonah said:
bones said:
strada owners piling it on!  wonder what the gap will be between these two tracts @ resale....
Ha ha.  I go to Capella from time to time and it helps validate my decision to buy Strada.  When the price differential between a house that is a couple of 200sqf bigger is 200k, I don't think it matters what the resale is.

Why do you have to validate purchase? Not being sarcastic, I'm deciding between Strada and Capella, but concern if someone needs to check on Capella after purchase.
Perhaps validate was the wrong word - reinforces is better.  I regularly go to all the properties to get ideas/inspiration.  Whenever I go to Capella, I come away feeling very relieved!
 
aquabliss said:
qwerty said:
bones said:
But the RESORT is next door! Who needs lot size.

And bones lands the left jab on Paris! :-)

Ohhhhhhhhhh so that was sarcastic?  Bones stop rubbing your 7,000sq ft lot in our face!

What?  It SO wasn't!

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Why are people on here so invested in Capella failing as a builder?

Sounds like the jilted ex who keeps checking up on his former flame to see if she's turned fat and unsuccessful, when she's doing just fine ;)

If I was content with my decision to not buy a home in a certain area, I wouldn't even bat an eyelash or waste my energy looking back. But it sounds to me like some people are extremely bitter.
 
Smart people buy the least expensive home in the best neighborhood. 

Capella resales will do just fine I'm sure. 

Also regardless of how many people post and say that gates don't matter, they're wrong - guard gated gates do matter (a lot more than those keypad ones).  There's plenty of people who will pay extra for guard gated and will only live in guard gated. 
 
JBean72 said:
Why are people on here so invested in Capella failing as a builder?

Sounds like the jilted ex who keeps checking up on his former flame to see if she's turned fat and unsuccessful, when she's doing just fine ;)

If I was content with my decision to not buy a home in a certain area, I wouldn't even bat an eyelash or waste my energy looking back. But it sounds to me like some people are extremely bitter.

So, you don't find it helpful to anyone coming here to learn about Capella, to hear why others who considered Capella chose something else? That's weird. Do you only want to hear positives?

Capella is great. The floorplans are all very nice - even hard to nitpick them. The gated Orchard Hills neighborhood is gorgeous. There are few areas in and near Irvine that can compete with the green hilly scenery.
 
Ahh...first world problems. Where to spend my million+ dollars. Decision decisions. Guard gates, hillside views, Cul de sacs, which Italian themed neighborhood (Capella....Strada). I pick the one that rolls off the tongue better.  ;D
 
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