Orchard Hills - Capella by Taylor Morrison

[OC troll]

Just curious what you guys think is more appealing since we are talking about comparisons. Pay $1M+ for a home with a decent lot that has detached and attached products in the community at lower price points or drop $1M+ on a home with a small lot with only SFR within the community at a similar price point behind a gate?

 

[Happiness]

Just curious what you guys think is more appealing since we are talking about comparisons. Pay $1M+ for a home with a decent lot that has detached and attached products in the community at lower price points or drop $1M+ on a home with a small lot with only SFR within the community at a similar price point behind a gate?

Let me rephrase your question: Do you want to buy the least expensive house in an upscale area or the most expensive house in a mixed area?

My 2 cents:  For investment purposes, it is usually best to buy the least expensive house in an expensive neighborhood.  If you don't care about investment value, you can probably get a more comfortable house a more modest neighborhood.

 

[thelandofnoland]

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[Happiness]

4 & 5. Large 4000 square foot homes, but compact lots like Amelia

What is the lot size of Amelia?

 

[notTHEoc]

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[thelandofnoland]

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[eyephone]

Of the 7 phases released so far they only have 5 on the market for sale, so what? Eventually they'll sell as we enter into the spring and summer months which are favorable for home sales. Otherwise I too have seen the recent lot page they have at sales where a lot of those view lots are reserved already and awaiting future phase release so purchase contracts can be signed.

Certainly perception tells us IUSD > TUSD but I think over time neighborhood brand names are created such as "Turtle Ridge", "Laguna Altura" and "Lambert Ranch" brand names. So eventually I believe "The Groves at OH" will also become a brand name in itself and at that point buyers will know that the TUSD schools linked to this particular neighborhood is superior to the other schools within the TUSD.  FCBs are all about brand name and some of these neighborhoods mentioned have got their attention as more exclusive than others in Irvine.

Anyway at the end of the day although the "investment" aspect is relevant, it should be more important that you are happy with your home purchase and enjoy the surroundings that home is located in. Personally I'll take a 4000 sqft lot facing serene orchards any day over a 10k sqft lot right next to the 5 freeway - but then again that's just my preference.

So your comparing this to LR, LA, and TR. Hmm

Yes I am comparing The Groves OH to those communities because once phase 2 Groves kicks in where the homes are planned to be 4000 sqft or greater at minimum and certainly comparable or even superior to Trevi then The Groves will command that "brand name exclusivity". I'm certainly not comparing Capella to homes in TR or LA but it will be the cheapest homes behind the gates period. They are not planning to build any homes of this caliber and price point behind the gates.

I question your valuation. I don't agree with your behind the gates methodology.

 

[Rice Vino]

Unfortunately for Paris, the Groves will be adding to the lower end of the spectrum before they go more upscale.

Pretty soon she'll feel at home again as it will skew more Northpark than Turtle Ridge.

 

[Jonah]

That's very true - it's all perception with IUSD - Irvine is a brand name, but little do they know that TUSD is right up there with them, and has fantastic schools.

Only true for a few TUSD properties, like Beckman, Myford, etc.  The rest of the TUSD schools are completely neglected.

Myford, Peter's Canyon and Ladera are all excellent schools.  As a long-time Irvine and Tustin resident, TUSD is actually a plus for me over IUSD.  My friend's son goes to an elementary school in Irvine and is currently the only non-Asian kid in his class.  I like Asians, they're polite and work hard, but I prefer more cultural diversity for my kids.  A school is much more than its API, and the demographic info for each school is always an interesting snapshot.  If FOBs are discouraged from buying in OH because of their preference for IUSD, then that's fine by me. 

 

[eyephone]

That's very true - it's all perception with IUSD - Irvine is a brand name, but little do they know that TUSD is right up there with them, and has fantastic schools.

Only true for a few TUSD properties, like Beckman, Myford, etc.  The rest of the TUSD schools are completely neglected.

Myford, Peter's Canyon and Ladera are all excellent schools.  As a long-time Irvine and Tustin resident, TUSD is actually a plus for me over IUSD.  My friend's son goes to an elementary school in Irvine and is currently the only non-Asian kid in his class.  I like Asians, they're well-educated but I prefer more cultural diversity for my kids.  A school is much more than its API, and the demographic info for each school is always an interesting snapshot.  If FOBs are discouraged from buying in OH because of their preference for IUSD, then that's fine by me.

Just thinking long term, when a person sells there home. The potential buyer would want the IUSD brand.

I don't know what to say regarding your FOB/Asian phobia.

 

[Jonah]

That's very true - it's all perception with IUSD - Irvine is a brand name, but little do they know that TUSD is right up there with them, and has fantastic schools.

Only true for a few TUSD properties, like Beckman, Myford, etc.  The rest of the TUSD schools are completely neglected.

Myford, Peter's Canyon and Ladera are all excellent schools.  As a long-time Irvine and Tustin resident, TUSD is actually a plus for me over IUSD.  My friend's son goes to an elementary school in Irvine and is currently the only non-Asian kid in his class.  I like Asians, they're well-educated but I prefer more cultural diversity for my kids.  A school is much more than its API, and the demographic info for each school is always an interesting snapshot.  If FOBs are discouraged from buying in OH because of their preference for IUSD, then that's fine by me.

Just thinking long term, when a person sells there home. The potential buyer would want the IUSD brand.

I don't know what to say regarding your FOB/Asian phobia.

Resale is the least of my concerns.  I don't have a phobia regarding FOB/Asians, Eyephone.  Like I said, I appreciate cultural diversity and I wouldn't want my kids to go to a predominantly "white" school for the same reason I wouldn't want them to go to a predominantly "Asian" school.  I think you must have me confused with someone else or you're having a bad day.

 

[qwerty]

I don't know what to say regarding your FOB/Asian phobia.

i would not call it a phobia.  diversity is a good thing.  besides, lets not kid ourselves, you would not want to be the only employee in a department of all mexicans/blacks/whites, etc. just as i wouldnt want to be the only mexican in that same set up.  but i dont mind being the only mexican in a more diverse group.

 

[eyephone]

I don't know what to say regarding your FOB/Asian phobia.

i would not call it a phobia.  diversity is a good thing.  besides, lets not kid ourselves, you would not want to be the only employee in a department of all mexicans/blacks/whites, etc. just as i wouldnt want to be the only mexican in that same set up.  but i dont mind being the only mexican in a more diverse group.

That's a reverse negative statement .

 

[eyephone]

That's very true - it's all perception with IUSD - Irvine is a brand name, but little do they know that TUSD is right up there with them, and has fantastic schools.

Only true for a few TUSD properties, like Beckman, Myford, etc.  The rest of the TUSD schools are completely neglected.

Myford, Peter's Canyon and Ladera are all excellent schools.  As a long-time Irvine and Tustin resident, TUSD is actually a plus for me over IUSD.  My friend's son goes to an elementary school in Irvine and is currently the only non-Asian kid in his class.  I like Asians, they're well-educated but I prefer more cultural diversity for my kids.  A school is much more than its API, and the demographic info for each school is always an interesting snapshot.  If FOBs are discouraged from buying in OH because of their preference for IUSD, then that's fine by me.

Just thinking long term, when a person sells there home. The potential buyer would want the IUSD brand.

I don't know what to say regarding your FOB/Asian phobia.

Resale is the least of my concerns.

That's a first on TI

 

[notTHEoc]

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[Jonah]

I'm not planning on flipping and while I'm mindful of resale, it's not my overriding concern.  I just like the area.

 

[nyc to oc]

That's very true - it's all perception with IUSD - Irvine is a brand name, but little do they know that TUSD is right up there with them, and has fantastic schools.

Only true for a few TUSD properties, like Beckman, Myford, etc.  The rest of the TUSD schools are completely neglected.

Myford, Peter's Canyon and Ladera are all excellent schools.  As a long-time Irvine and Tustin resident, TUSD is actually a plus for me over IUSD.  My friend's son goes to an elementary school in Irvine and is currently the only non-Asian kid in his class.  I like Asians, they're polite and work hard, but I prefer more cultural diversity for my kids.  A school is much more than its API, and the demographic info for each school is always an interesting snapshot.  If FOBs are discouraged from buying in OH because of their preference for IUSD, then that's fine by me.

I am in a similar boat. I actively prefer TUSD over IUSD. We have liked a couple of houses in the Northwood High and Uni High zones, but in the end decided against them because of the schools.

 

[OC troll]

Why such a strong love hate relation with Capella? The rest of the Groves doesn't even come close to this amount of attention on TI, Hmmmm...

 

[bones]

That's very true - it's all perception with IUSD - Irvine is a brand name, but little do they know that TUSD is right up there with them, and has fantastic schools.

Only true for a few TUSD properties, like Beckman, Myford, etc.  The rest of the TUSD schools are completely neglected.

Myford, Peter's Canyon and Ladera are all excellent schools.  As a long-time Irvine and Tustin resident, TUSD is actually a plus for me over IUSD.  My friend's son goes to an elementary school in Irvine and is currently the only non-Asian kid in his class.  I like Asians, they're polite and work hard, but I prefer more cultural diversity for my kids.  A school is much more than its API, and the demographic info for each school is always an interesting snapshot.  If FOBs are discouraged from buying in OH because of their preference for IUSD, then that's fine by me.

I am in a similar boat. I actively prefer TUSD over IUSD. We have liked a couple of houses in the Northwood High and Uni High zones, but in the end decided against them because of the schools.

Is Beckman much more diverse than Northwood or Uni?

This is why "new" irvine bothers me. The schools are too asian. I toured vista verde recently. The diversity there was nice.

 

[gasman]

Why such a strong love hate relation with Capella? The rest of the Groves doesn't even come close to this amount of attention on TI, Hmmmm...

Isn't it obvious?  It's because Paris didn't buy in the rest of the Groves...  >