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Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Huh ? Wasn?t all this supposed to be a giant nothingburger (or Popeyes fried chicken, whatever) . Below tweet almost seems like an admission of guilt.

Trump tweeting yesterday  ? ?The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration. Why didn?t they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the Election??

Looking forward to their trials which will surely be on tv live!


When we get these hooligans to the States.


A president with any allegiance to our flag , with even half a spine , would be asking for extradition of these criminals when he meets Putin next week.

I'm sure Putin would say "Sure thing!", all we need to do is ask!

Yeah goes without saying, no one is coming back here. thats not the point.  in diplomatic relations, this would give you some degree of leverage at least, if one is willing to use it.  Right now, its all bromance, all the time.  I am waiting to see what our comedians do with it after the meeting.
 
fortune11 said:
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Huh ? Wasn?t all this supposed to be a giant nothingburger (or Popeyes fried chicken, whatever) . Below tweet almost seems like an admission of guilt.

Trump tweeting yesterday  ? ?The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration. Why didn?t they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the Election??

Looking forward to their trials which will surely be on tv live!


When we get these hooligans to the States.


A president with any allegiance to our flag , with even half a spine , would be asking for extradition of these criminals when he meets Putin next week.

I'm sure Putin would say "Sure thing!", all we need to do is ask!

Yeah goes without saying, no one is coming back here. thats not the point.  in diplomatic relations, this would give you some degree of leverage at least, if one is willing to use it.  Right now, its all bromance, all the time.  I am waiting to see what our comedians do with it after the meeting.


I'm not wasting my time watching any comedians. I rather watch General Hospital.
 
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Huh ? Wasn?t all this supposed to be a giant nothingburger (or Popeyes fried chicken, whatever) . Below tweet almost seems like an admission of guilt.

Trump tweeting yesterday  ? ?The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration. Why didn?t they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the Election??

Looking forward to their trials which will surely be on tv live!


When we get these hooligans to the States.


A president with any allegiance to our flag , with even half a spine , would be asking for extradition of these criminals when he meets Putin next week.

I'm sure Putin would say "Sure thing!", all we need to do is ask!

Yeah goes without saying, no one is coming back here. thats not the point.  in diplomatic relations, this would give you some degree of leverage at least, if one is willing to use it.  Right now, its all bromance, all the time.  I am waiting to see what our comedians do with it after the meeting.


I'm not wasting my time watching any comedians. I rather watch General Hospital.

Hey , nothing beats watching general hospital while munching down nothingburgers : )  for 99 cents
 
After reading the 22ish page indictment, some thoughts:

1) It's amazing what with Them Rooskies starting in ?Feb- March 2016? to infiltrate the DNC's networks how Time Lord Trump was able to revv up the TARDIS once he got the nomination in July and go back to get Them Rooskies to collude with him.

2) Haven't seen any techies here in TI who also read this comment on the nature of the hack spearfishing. Since this the readership of this blog and the commenters are of a tech heavy nature, some insight on the indictment would make for great reading. When a major film studio's system was overwhelmed - as the media and the government told us - by Best Korea, I had the privilege to speak to a tech person with direct "boots on the ground" knowledge of the attack. The indications I was given was that Best Korea had nothing to do with it. My suspicions are that the indicted Rooskies did NOT do as much as what is warranted based on my prior experience. Techies here may have deeper insight.

3) If the data in the indictment is truthful, frankly speaking: GREAT! It showed the DNC meddled in the 2016 election denying Bernie Sanders a fair and level playing field (Fully disclosure: I wanted a Bernie/Donald election contest) The leak showed that HRC had a homebrew server - one in which 30,000 emails went to a foreign actor (Not Them Rooskies BTW) - and that public business was being conducted by POTUS and the Attorney General via pseudonym accounts over unsecured networks (Gmail). No one seems to care about this for some reason. Ask yourself why.

4) If the data in the indictment is truthful, then it means the NSA's spying is also being aided by Google, FB, etc. For this level of detail to come into an indictment on the means of information gathering, this wasn't of "direct human capture" - inside spies. I've always assumed there is no such thing as privacy, but the 22 page indictment seems to cement this fact. If this level of data can be captured thousands of miles away, imagine what can be learned on the local level. That's scarier than Them Rooskies learning about wedding plans, risotto recipes, and yoga classes as the Left would have us believe those e-mails were all about.

My .02c

SGIP
 
Imagine if Republicans were in charge of the cave rescue of those Thai kids --

"They shouldn't have entered the cave in the first place"

"If we save them, it will just send a message that anyone an just go into any cave at any time"

"what if those kids are part of a cave gang"

"how do we know they're really trapped and not just trying to scam the cave system?"

"technically the constitution doesn't say anything about caves so this is not really our problem"

"my dad was trapped in a well and used stacks of cash to build a ladder out. this kids don't need help. they need personal responsibility"

"this is all just a big conspiracy by Big Cave Democrats"

"how do we even know they are trapped? there is only a 97% consensus of cave experts who agree they are"

and lastly,

"we are announcing the formation of a Cave Exploratory Committee dedicated to finding out how Hillary Clinton is responsible for these kids getting trapped in a cave"
 
fortune11 said:
Imagine if Republicans were in charge of the cave rescue of those Thai kids --

"They shouldn't have entered the cave in the first place"

"If we save them, it will just send a message that anyone an just go into any cave at any time"

"what if those kids are part of a cave gang"

"how do we know they're really trapped and not just trying to scam the cave system?"

"technically the constitution doesn't say anything about caves so this is not really our problem"

"my dad was trapped in a well and used stacks of cash to build a ladder out. this kids don't need help. they need personal responsibility"

"this is all just a big conspiracy by Big Cave Democrats"

"how do we even know they are trapped? there is only a 97% consensus of cave experts who agree they are"

and lastly,

"we are announcing the formation of a Cave Exploratory Committee dedicated to finding out how Hillary Clinton is responsible for these kids getting trapped in a cave"

"we need to build a wall around the cave!"
 
How the heck any American supports Trump I don't get.

President Trump on Monday downplayed Moscow's interference in the 2016 presidential election and criticized the special counsel investigation ? all while standing alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at a press conference following their meeting in Helsinki.
 
In an extraordinary scene, Trump said the allegations against Russia had created doubts about the legitimacy of his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton and emphasized that there had been no evidence of collusion during a press conference watched around the world.

Asked whether he would condemn Russia?s election meddling, Trump said ?I don't see any reason why it would be? Russia who hacked Democrats during the 2016 election
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...involvement-in-election-at-joint-presser-with
 
Irvinecommuter said:
How the heck any American supports Trump I don't get.

President Trump on Monday downplayed Moscow's interference in the 2016 presidential election and criticized the special counsel investigation ? all while standing alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at a press conference following their meeting in Helsinki.
 
In an extraordinary scene, Trump said the allegations against Russia had created doubts about the legitimacy of his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton and emphasized that there had been no evidence of collusion during a press conference watched around the world.

Asked whether he would condemn Russia?s election meddling, Trump said ?I don't see any reason why it would be? Russia who hacked Democrats during the 2016 election
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...involvement-in-election-at-joint-presser-with

The same way you get 'bounties' in pee wee sports
 
Irvinecommuter said:
How the heck any American supports Trump I don't get.

President Trump on Monday downplayed Moscow's interference in the 2016 presidential election and criticized the special counsel investigation ? all while standing alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at a press conference following their meeting in Helsinki.
 
In an extraordinary scene, Trump said the allegations against Russia had created doubts about the legitimacy of his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton and emphasized that there had been no evidence of collusion during a press conference watched around the world.

Asked whether he would condemn Russia?s election meddling, Trump said ?I don't see any reason why it would be? Russia who hacked Democrats during the 2016 election
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...involvement-in-election-at-joint-presser-with

but .. tax cuts ... but but ... supreme court ... but but but  "owning the libs " (top pick)

If Trump was this much subservient to Putin with the eyes of the entire world upon him, what did he say when they were alone for over two hours
 
Irvinecommuter said:
How the heck any American supports Trump I don't get.

President Trump on Monday downplayed Moscow's interference in the 2016 presidential election and criticized the special counsel investigation ? all while standing alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at a press conference following their meeting in Helsinki.
 
In an extraordinary scene, Trump said the allegations against Russia had created doubts about the legitimacy of his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton and emphasized that there had been no evidence of collusion during a press conference watched around the world.

Asked whether he would condemn Russia?s election meddling, Trump said ?I don't see any reason why it would be? Russia who hacked Democrats during the 2016 election
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...involvement-in-election-at-joint-presser-with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowhUWl6rxQ
 
I mean...I really shouldn't expect anything.  If Kim Jong Un can play Trump like a fiddle...it's child's play for Putin.

But the words/statements are still jarring when you actually hear and read it
 
Irvinecommuter said:
I mean...I really shouldn't expect anything.  If Kim Jong Un can play Trump like a fiddle...it's child's play for Putin.

But the words/statements are still jarring when you actually hear and read it

Yes, indeed.  Hard to get over the fact that Putin pulled an  "OJ wants to find the real killer " on Trump and Trump enthusiastically praised the suggestion !
 
How many right-wingers on Fox who are offended when an athlete kneels before a football game are going to be outraged now that Trump kneels before Putin : )
 
@Soylent

DNC spokeswoman Adrienne Watson told PolitiFact that the DNC cooperated with the FBI?s requests, which resulted in the DNC providing a copy of their server.

"An image of a server is the best thing to use in an investigation so that your exploration of the server does not change the evidence (just like you don?t want investigators leaving their own DNA around a physical crime scene) and so that the bad actors cannot make changes to the evidence while you are looking at it," Watson said. "Any suggestion that they were denied access to what they wanted for their investigation is completely incorrect."

We found no indication that the FBI had renewed their request to gain access to the actual server, or that investigating the server copy would have prevented the FBI from tracking down the culprits. (The FBI declined to comment.)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/16/donald-trump/missing-servers-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Has Fox News even turned?

IC - after extensive analysis and poring through transcripts and interviewing hundreds (no, thousands) of MAGA-dom experts I have come to this scientific conclusion

Trump's people have been cheering him on so far because besides pissing off liberals,  in their eyes, he comes across as a winner , alpha male macho bruce willis (with an extra 90 pounds) .

seeing trump's behavior on stage today, the most obvious takeaway, regardless of which side you are on, is that he comes across as Putin's little b****h  . And this weakness or emasculating behavior (in right's eyes) -- is whats making many people loath to defend him. Witness the thunderous silence on this forum itself

This is why even the reliably pro-Trump Drudge Report had a large all caps headline w a verdict ?Putin Dominates?
 
fortune11 said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Has Fox News even turned?

IC - after extensive analysis and poring through transcripts and interviewing hundreds (no, thousands) of MAGA-dom experts I have come to this scientific conclusion

Trump's people have been cheering him on so far because besides pissing off liberals,  in their eyes, he comes across as a winner , alpha male macho bruce willis (with an extra 90 pounds) .

seeing trump's behavior on stage today, the most obvious takeaway, regardless of which side you are on, is that he comes across as Putin's little b****h  . And this weakness or emasculating behavior (in right's eyes) -- is whats making many people loath to defend him. Witness the thunderous silence on this forum itself

This is why even the reliably pro-Trump Drudge Report had a large all caps headline w a verdict ?Putin Dominates?

Don't overlook the whiteness part of the equation.

Honestly...at this point...I am convinced that Trump is just trying to bail before the mid-terms so that he can blame the losses on Mike Pence and the GOP. 
 
Irvinecommuter said:
fortune11 said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Has Fox News even turned?

IC - after extensive analysis and poring through transcripts and interviewing hundreds (no, thousands) of MAGA-dom experts I have come to this scientific conclusion

Trump's people have been cheering him on so far because besides pissing off liberals,  in their eyes, he comes across as a winner , alpha male macho bruce willis (with an extra 90 pounds) .

seeing trump's behavior on stage today, the most obvious takeaway, regardless of which side you are on, is that he comes across as Putin's little b****h  . And this weakness or emasculating behavior (in right's eyes) -- is whats making many people loath to defend him. Witness the thunderous silence on this forum itself

This is why even the reliably pro-Trump Drudge Report had a large all caps headline w a verdict ?Putin Dominates?

Don't overlook the whiteness part of the equation.

Honestly...at this point...I am convinced that Trump is just trying to bail before the mid-terms so that he can blame the losses on Mike Pence and the GOP.

Indeed ? friends, we are now in the sub-basement of parody

if I wake up tomorrow and find trump tweeting about taking up putin on his generous offer to install a state of the art surveillance system in the white house to help monitor for threats to America I will not even bat an eye
 
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