And ?-if you are wondering why the vague smirks on Strzok's face that launched a thousand MAGA -gifs , It was in response to GOP comments like ?- "I'm a dentist, Okay. So I read body language very, very well." ? that?s when strozk realizes just how big an idiot the GOP congressman is !
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Louis Gohmert calling Strzok a liar because he had an affair while supporting Trump is just incredible. That whole thing was a sham.
the dnc servers were turned over to a 3rd party and the federal bureau of matters never actually looked at them. now, if ivan drago's people really hacked into your system, shouldn't the first people you go to be the feds and not some third party? where's my soylent burger?
Your definition of vote changed is rather narrow and I don't understand the "we have done it so what" argument.
Every step of the way...people have doubted Mueller and his team...I assure you dude is playing 10-D chess.
Depends, do you want someone competent to do forensics on the servers? Or do you want the government to do it?
The only three letter agency that can touch the Russians in cyber is the NSA. Maybe CIA. FBI/DOJ is useless against Russia, or anyone older than 12.
Not that anyone could prove it anyway, attribution is mostly BS. 15 year olds are frequently mistaken as Russia and north korea. NSA makes those mistakes far less often, easy to do when you have your hooks into so many internet backbones. Of course, they don?t tell us their findings.
we're supposed to believe the three letter agencies are unbiased - let's run with that for a second. whether a third party company is "competent" or not doesn't mean they are bound to be ethical and/or represent the truth, especially when they wouldn't even turn over the hacked servers in question. wouldn't it be beneficial to turn over all data to anyone that has the ability to help, especially the same entity that helps build cases against someone to prosecute? the fact that they refused to do so stinks to high heaven.
Looking forward to their trials which will surely be on tv live!
When we get these hooligans to the States.
Yeah agreed, just don?t trust the three letters either. We have a ways to go to have reliable attribution.
I'm sure Putin would say "Sure thing!", all we need to do is ask!
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fortune11 said:
Louis Gohmert calling Strzok a liar because he had an affair while supporting Trump is just incredible. That whole thing was a sham.
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No wonder GOP is nervous:
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/396892-mueller-indicts-12-russians-in-2016-dnc-hack
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Yet not one vote was changed.
"Meddling" is what American's do best in other countries elections. No matter which bucket you fall in to -either the MAGA/DNC - side of things, for the US to pearl clutch and dip towards the fainting couch about meddling is laughable. Just as an indicator of one such episode, and how convoluted it is to trace - give this a read regarding POTUS 44 and Israeli elections:
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/25/blog-posting/blog-claims-us-funded-anti-netanyahu-election-effo/
I'd like to hear more about if the DNC and HRC 2016 Servers were reviewed by the CIA, DOJ, or the FBI. If the servers were not examined by the Department of Justice, but simply by a 3rd party as it had been before, then this whole indictment story is simply a soy based protein substitute providing zero real beef to enjoy between the buns of what has become an even bigger nothingburger.
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"Meddling" is what American's do best in other countries elections. No matter which bucket you fall in to -either the MAGA/DNC - side of things, for the US to pearl clutch and dip towards the fainting couch about meddling is laughable. Just as an indicator of one such episode, and how convoluted it is to trace - give this a read regarding POTUS 44 and Israeli elections:
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/25/blog-posting/blog-claims-us-funded-anti-netanyahu-election-effo/
I'd like to hear more about if the DNC and HRC 2016 Servers were reviewed by the CIA, DOJ, or the FBI. If the servers were not examined by the Department of Justice, but simply by a 3rd party as it had been before, then this whole indictment story is simply a soy based protein substitute providing zero real beef to enjoy between the buns of what has become an even bigger nothingburger.
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the dnc servers were turned over to a 3rd party and the federal bureau of matters never actually looked at them. now, if ivan drago's people really hacked into your system, shouldn't the first people you go to be the feds and not some third party? where's my soylent burger?
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Soylent Green Is People said:
Your definition of vote changed is rather narrow and I don't understand the "we have done it so what" argument.
Every step of the way...people have doubted Mueller and his team...I assure you dude is playing 10-D chess.
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Kings: It was either a Wendy's or BKing that had one of those freeway signs with "Our secret ingredient is our people". I need that on a shirt.
IrvineCommuter - it's not my definition. It's what Rosenstein said in the briefing. It's what's in the indictments.
The Righty's say that given the bandwith limits, there's simply no way the data could have been downloaded across multiple continents in the time that by these 3rd parties say it was. Sure... who knows?
The Lefties say "We have to trust these 3rd party reviewers as they were hired by the DNC to find things the truth". Sure... whatever.
This whole thing is an Ouroboros. It's way too late to do any forensics on the Servers so anything that has been "discovered" in the last 90 days is too stale to be considered valid evidence - providing that the Servers were put under lock and key since November 10th, 2016.
We know that isn't the case.
More noise from the Special Counsel than true signal. It's certainly going to rev up the news cycle though for the next 3-4 days.
By the way, anyone still give a shiat about those migrant kids or Melania's coat. Wasn't there someone nominated to the Supreme Court? I forget.... Where's my bread?
IrvineCommuter - it's not my definition. It's what Rosenstein said in the briefing. It's what's in the indictments.
The Righty's say that given the bandwith limits, there's simply no way the data could have been downloaded across multiple continents in the time that by these 3rd parties say it was. Sure... who knows?
The Lefties say "We have to trust these 3rd party reviewers as they were hired by the DNC to find things the truth". Sure... whatever.
This whole thing is an Ouroboros. It's way too late to do any forensics on the Servers so anything that has been "discovered" in the last 90 days is too stale to be considered valid evidence - providing that the Servers were put under lock and key since November 10th, 2016.
We know that isn't the case.
More noise from the Special Counsel than true signal. It's certainly going to rev up the news cycle though for the next 3-4 days.
By the way, anyone still give a shiat about those migrant kids or Melania's coat. Wasn't there someone nominated to the Supreme Court? I forget.... Where's my bread?
trump is the greatest thing that has ever happened to the media. it's like a real life truman show - everything he does is news. hate him or love him, you have to tune in to see what he did next.
that means the news cycle has to keep moving to keep up. i wonder if pence's first term will be as exciting?
that means the news cycle has to keep moving to keep up. i wonder if pence's first term will be as exciting?
Maybe those 2 cents are really worth even less this time
Yes everything is noise because we are the real armchair experts aren?t we
Just as people here have supposedly domain knowledge in whatever area they make their living ? mortgage brokers , financial advisors , doctors , etc etc , Mueller is an expert in his area , and as his part record as a republican himself , is above reproach .
Mueller has brought 191 criminal charges against 35 defendants, according to last count. This includes 112 new charges brought today against a dozen Russian operatives for hacking.
Yes dismiss him all you want, because Republicans on this board reading Drudge Report have a lot more expertise on what?s going on w the investigation than someone who has dedicated his life to this country?s service .
Yes everything is noise because we are the real armchair experts aren?t we
Just as people here have supposedly domain knowledge in whatever area they make their living ? mortgage brokers , financial advisors , doctors , etc etc , Mueller is an expert in his area , and as his part record as a republican himself , is above reproach .
Mueller has brought 191 criminal charges against 35 defendants, according to last count. This includes 112 new charges brought today against a dozen Russian operatives for hacking.
Yes dismiss him all you want, because Republicans on this board reading Drudge Report have a lot more expertise on what?s going on w the investigation than someone who has dedicated his life to this country?s service .
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Kings said:
Depends, do you want someone competent to do forensics on the servers? Or do you want the government to do it?
The only three letter agency that can touch the Russians in cyber is the NSA. Maybe CIA. FBI/DOJ is useless against Russia, or anyone older than 12.
Not that anyone could prove it anyway, attribution is mostly BS. 15 year olds are frequently mistaken as Russia and north korea. NSA makes those mistakes far less often, easy to do when you have your hooks into so many internet backbones. Of course, they don?t tell us their findings.
inv0ke-epipen said:
we're supposed to believe the three letter agencies are unbiased - let's run with that for a second. whether a third party company is "competent" or not doesn't mean they are bound to be ethical and/or represent the truth, especially when they wouldn't even turn over the hacked servers in question. wouldn't it be beneficial to turn over all data to anyone that has the ability to help, especially the same entity that helps build cases against someone to prosecute? the fact that they refused to do so stinks to high heaven.
Huh ? Wasn?t all this supposed to be a giant nothingburger (or Popeyes fried chicken, whatever) . Below tweet almost seems like an admission of guilt.
Trump tweeting yesterday ? ?The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration. Why didn?t they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the Election??
Trump tweeting yesterday ? ?The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration. Why didn?t they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the Election??
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fortune11 said:
Looking forward to their trials which will surely be on tv live!
When we get these hooligans to the States.
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Kings said:
Yeah agreed, just don?t trust the three letters either. We have a ways to go to have reliable attribution.
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fortune11 said:
I'm sure Putin would say "Sure thing!", all we need to do is ask!