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morekaos said:
I thought it was funny. Has anything been enacted that has taken away due process or is this simply an accusation that some one wants to do it?...very different things.
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1. Let?s be clear. He took an oath as president to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. (or did he not?)
2. How is it an accusation? He said it multiple times on different occasions.
 
So you say but has he done it?  Has any citizen had his due process rights taken away from him by this administration? No. Until that happens it is simply accusation and innuendo of intent, not action.
 
morekaos said:
So you say but has he done it?  Has any citizen had his due process rights taken away from him by this administration? No. Until that happens it is simply accusation and innuendo of intent, not action.
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He is the president and took and oath to defend the US constitution as a president. If you or I said it. It means nothing. But since he is the president it means a lot.

If it was a joke he would say it was a joke. Did he? I don?t know.
 
StarmanMBA said:
fortune11 said:
The tax dollars wasted on white collar and high end fraud and abuse are magnitudes higher
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Please cite references for your claim of "magnitudes higher." Social spending is the number one cost item on federal and state budgets.
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Social spending as a whole is higher than white collar fraud, undoubtedly. However, that was not the point fortune11 was making. He claims fraud against social safety nets is magnitudes lower than white collar fraud. Fraud cost is going to be a smaller subset of total social spending.

Whether that claim is correct, I don't know.
 
This was a clearly a joke but now its part of the Mueller collusion probe...the press even laughed at the end. He says a lot of stuff, don't take it so literally unless it becomes action.  Until then it means little.
https://youtu.be/-b71f2eYdTc
 
Like I said he says a lot of stuff, actions are what are relevant.  Like this... Words...

Apple?s Jobs to Obama: ?jobs aren?t coming back? to U.S.

But as Steve Jobs of Apple spoke, Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: What would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 million iPhones, 30 million iPads and 59 million other products Apple sold last year were manufactured overseas.

Why can?t that work come home? Obama asked.

Jobs? reply was unambiguous. ?Those jobs aren?t coming back,? he said, according to another dinner guest.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20120123/apples-jobs-to-obama-jobs-arent-coming-back-to-us

...action...

Making Apple products in America again: Foxconn to open up shop in Wisconsin

In a move that could be described as making Apple American-made again, Foxconn is starting with the head office ahead of the construction of a $10 billion manufacturing plant 30 miles south in Racine County. It will make liquid crystal display panels for commercial and consumer uses, including Apple iPhones.

The factory will initially employ 3,000 people when it opens and eventually as many as 13,000 people in a state that has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, statistically higher than the current U.S. unemployment rate of 3.8 percent

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2018/06/17/making-apple-products-america-foxconn-open-shop-wisconsin/
 
It?s funny there?s a video on YouTube that talks about the Foxconn in Wisconsin.

morekaos said:
Like I said he says a lot of stuff, actions are what are relevant.  Like this... Words...

Apple?s Jobs to Obama: ?jobs aren?t coming back? to U.S.

But as Steve Jobs of Apple spoke, Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: What would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 million iPhones, 30 million iPads and 59 million other products Apple sold last year were manufactured overseas.

Why can?t that work come home? Obama asked.

Jobs? reply was unambiguous. ?Those jobs aren?t coming back,? he said, according to another dinner guest.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20120123/apples-jobs-to-obama-jobs-arent-coming-back-to-us

...action...

Making Apple products in America again: Foxconn to open up shop in Wisconsin

In a move that could be described as making Apple American-made again, Foxconn is starting with the head office ahead of the construction of a $10 billion manufacturing plant 30 miles south in Racine County. It will make liquid crystal display panels for commercial and consumer uses, including Apple iPhones.

The factory will initially employ 3,000 people when it opens and eventually as many as 13,000 people in a state that has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, statistically higher than the current U.S. unemployment rate of 3.8 percent

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2018/06/17/making-apple-products-america-foxconn-open-shop-wisconsin/
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Not all people are happy about it according to the video.
https://youtu.be/YZfxvH_oeKA

morekaos said:
Like I said he says a lot of stuff, actions are what are relevant.  Like this... Words...

Apple?s Jobs to Obama: ?jobs aren?t coming back? to U.S.

But as Steve Jobs of Apple spoke, Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: What would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 million iPhones, 30 million iPads and 59 million other products Apple sold last year were manufactured overseas.

Why can?t that work come home? Obama asked.

Jobs? reply was unambiguous. ?Those jobs aren?t coming back,? he said, according to another dinner guest.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20120123/apples-jobs-to-obama-jobs-arent-coming-back-to-us

...action...

Making Apple products in America again: Foxconn to open up shop in Wisconsin

In a move that could be described as making Apple American-made again, Foxconn is starting with the head office ahead of the construction of a $10 billion manufacturing plant 30 miles south in Racine County. It will make liquid crystal display panels for commercial and consumer uses, including Apple iPhones.

The factory will initially employ 3,000 people when it opens and eventually as many as 13,000 people in a state that has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, statistically higher than the current U.S. unemployment rate of 3.8 percent

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2018/06/17/making-apple-products-america-foxconn-open-shop-wisconsin/
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Note: I have nothing to with that video. But since you mentioned it. I thought it would be a good idea to share that with you.  ;)

Also, read the comment section. It?s unbelievable.

(I will continue to stand up for the small person.)

 
eyephone said:
Not all people are happy about it according to the video.
https://youtu.be/YZfxvH_oeKA

morekaos said:
Like I said he says a lot of stuff, actions are what are relevant.  Like this... Words...

Apple?s Jobs to Obama: ?jobs aren?t coming back? to U.S.

But as Steve Jobs of Apple spoke, Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: What would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 million iPhones, 30 million iPads and 59 million other products Apple sold last year were manufactured overseas.

Why can?t that work come home? Obama asked.

Jobs? reply was unambiguous. ?Those jobs aren?t coming back,? he said, according to another dinner guest.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20120123/apples-jobs-to-obama-jobs-arent-coming-back-to-us

...action...

Making Apple products in America again: Foxconn to open up shop in Wisconsin

In a move that could be described as making Apple American-made again, Foxconn is starting with the head office ahead of the construction of a $10 billion manufacturing plant 30 miles south in Racine County. It will make liquid crystal display panels for commercial and consumer uses, including Apple iPhones.

The factory will initially employ 3,000 people when it opens and eventually as many as 13,000 people in a state that has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, statistically higher than the current U.S. unemployment rate of 3.8 percent

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2018/06/17/making-apple-products-america-foxconn-open-shop-wisconsin/
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Why don't they just move?

I'd rather have a Foxconn plant than some upset NIMBYs
 
Also, it's funny when people talk about bringing electronics manufacturing back to the US. It never was in the US! It was born in Asia.

Why build crap here when the entire supply chain is in Asia. Much easier to get a line stoodup and parts secured in Shenzhen then Wisconsin (make sure to obfuscate your IP though).

Cool foxconn is hiring 13,000 people. That doesn't even register as a blip in their 1.3 million total employee base. When someone actually starts spinning up a real ecosystem for manufacturing here, call me back, otherwise miss me with these token gestures.

Fun channel that demonstrates what you can do in Shenzhen:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA
Try pulling off that same task in the US.



 
inv0ke-epipen said:
eyephone said:
Not all people are happy about it according to the video.
https://youtu.be/YZfxvH_oeKA

morekaos said:
Like I said he says a lot of stuff, actions are what are relevant.  Like this... Words...

Apple?s Jobs to Obama: ?jobs aren?t coming back? to U.S.

But as Steve Jobs of Apple spoke, Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: What would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 million iPhones, 30 million iPads and 59 million other products Apple sold last year were manufactured overseas.

Why can?t that work come home? Obama asked.

Jobs? reply was unambiguous. ?Those jobs aren?t coming back,? he said, according to another dinner guest.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20120123/apples-jobs-to-obama-jobs-arent-coming-back-to-us

...action...

Making Apple products in America again: Foxconn to open up shop in Wisconsin

In a move that could be described as making Apple American-made again, Foxconn is starting with the head office ahead of the construction of a $10 billion manufacturing plant 30 miles south in Racine County. It will make liquid crystal display panels for commercial and consumer uses, including Apple iPhones.

The factory will initially employ 3,000 people when it opens and eventually as many as 13,000 people in a state that has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, statistically higher than the current U.S. unemployment rate of 3.8 percent

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2018/06/17/making-apple-products-america-foxconn-open-shop-wisconsin/
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Why don't they just move?

I'd rather have a Foxconn plant than some upset NIMBYs
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?Democrats Hope Trump-Backed Foxconn Deal Will Be Scott Walker?s Downfall

President Donald Trump and the governor are celebrating the $3 billion deal on Thursday. But polls show it?s unpopular.

But the $3 billion package to lure Taiwanese manufacturer Foxconn, which observers once thought would be a centerpiece of Walker?s run for a third term, has instead become a potential liability. It is unpopular in public opinion polling, and Walker?s potential Democratic opponents are lining up to attack it. They hope it could be the key to finally toppling Walker, who has crushed the state?s union movement and survived two Democratic attempts to oust him. ?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b33e07de4b0b5e692f3d2b7/amp


Thanks morekas for bringing up this topic. ;)
 
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