Midterm Elections

[morekaos]

What message can they run against.  No jobs in my back yard. NJIMBY?

 

[Kings]

What message can they run against.  No jobs in my back yard. NJIMBY?

sounds like what new yorkers would say - new jersey in my back yard

 

[fortune11]

So you say but has he done it?  Has any citizen had his due process rights taken away from him by this administration? No. Until that happens it is simply accusation and innuendo of intent, not action.

Recall during the 2016 election ? a popular refrain was don?t take trump literarlly ? but he never changed did he ?

How many redlines and moral boundaries have we crossed since ? And his base and evangelicals keep giving him a pass ?

When this happens ( due process ) , his base will just shrug and move on as long as it is those ?others? ...

But for now , here is one example
http://theweek.com/articles/750212/trump-about-deport-american-citizen

 

[fortune11]

Like the Rock the vote youth, you can have the idealistic communist voters too....have at it.

Right wingers suffer heavily from recency bias . Liberals too (like pelosi and Schumer)

Extrapolating into the future by straightlining recent past

This is why many people were startled by acceptance of gay rights and never saw it coming

Millenial gen is now bigger than boomers ? and I don?t want to rehash again the old debates on who is voting and who is sitting on their couch binging on Netflix ... but a seismic shift can occur just from incremental changes

 

[sgip]

Key paragraph in the article:

"that ICE might detain and eventually deport an American citizen is not, however, beyond the bounds of possibility. "It has happened shockingly often" said Reed. One 2011 study found that as many as 4,000 citizens may have been deported in the previous year alone".

If President Cheeto gets as much grief over a deportation yet to be completed, why wasn't there 4,000 times more grief in 2011 for these deportees? The question practically answers itself.

My .02c

 

[inv0ke-epipen]

Key paragraph in the article:

"that ICE might detain and eventually deport an American citizen is not, however, beyond the bounds of possibility. "It has happened shockingly often" said Reed. One 2011 study found that as many as 4,000 citizens may have been deported in the previous year alone".

If President Cheeto gets as much grief over a deportation yet to be completed, why wasn't there 4,000 times more grief in 2011 for these deportees? The question practically answers itself.

My .02c

Obama got a ton of grief from activists on that. We had semi regular protests at UCI about it. Wasn't a national news story for the most part, maybe just limited to the college SJW scene.

 

[sgip]

Thx!

I'd like to read up on those protests, and recall some coverage with the OCR on them.

So far I see articles on the practice,

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/us/measures-to-capture-illegal-aliens-nab-citizens.html

https://www.npr.org/2011/10/24/141500145/in-the-rush-to-deport-expelling-u-s-citizens



but nothing so far on the protests:

My .02c

 

[Kings]

Thx!

I'd like to read up on those protests, and recall some coverage with the OCR on them.

So far I see articles on the practice,

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/us/measures-to-capture-illegal-aliens-nab-citizens.html

https://www.npr.org/2011/10/24/141500145/in-the-rush-to-deport-expelling-u-s-citizens



but nothing so far on the protests:

My .02c

weird, i don't see obama mentioned once in that npr article??

 

[Loco_local]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html?outputType=amp

from 2014

WASHINGTON ? Immigration activists have sharply criticized President Obama for a rising volume of deportations, labeling him the "deporter in chief" and staging large protests that have harmed his standing with some Latinos, a key group of voters for Democrats.

But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

 

[Loco_local]

2013
More Protesters Arrested As Obama's Deportation Record Nears 2 Million https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013...ests_n_4420605.html?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004via @LatinoVoices

The protest was the latest in a recent series of demonstrations aimed at urging President Barack Obama to stop the deportation of undocumented immigrants. In the past year, supporters of immigration rights have expressed growing frustration with the president, who has overseen the deportation of nearly 2 million immigrants during his time in office, far more than any other president in history. With a deeply divided Congress now nearing its holiday recess, it seems nearly certain that another year will pass with lawmakers failing to make any headway on immigration reform

 

[Loco_local]

JUN
7
Los Angeles Protest to Tell President Obama "Not1More Deportation!"
Public ? Event ? by National Day Laborer Organizing Network
Friday, June 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM - 2:00 PM PDT
More than a year ago

 

[Loco_local]

2012https://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/06/18/us/politics/deportation-policy-change-came-after-protests.html

 

[Happiness]

Thx!

I'd like to read up on those protests, and recall some coverage with the OCR on them.

So far I see articles on the practice,

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/us/measures-to-capture-illegal-aliens-nab-citizens.html

https://www.npr.org/2011/10/24/141500145/in-the-rush-to-deport-expelling-u-s-citizens



but nothing so far on the protests:

My .02c

weird, i don't see obama mentioned once in that npr article??

Remember when Obama approved the CIA's use of fake childhood vaccinations in Pakistan to get DNA from Pakistani kids to see if any were related to Osama bin Laden? Obama's decision led to a public health crisis in Pakistan where parents are not vaccinating their kids because they have lost confidence in the public health system. The tragic deaths of thousands of innocent children was a totally predictable outcome of Obama's decision. Can you imagine how outraged the media, activists, international community, Liberals, etc. would be had a similar decision been made by Trump? While temporally separating parents from kids at the border is not nice, it pales in comparison to Obama's cruelty to the kids of the world.

 

[fortune11]

Key paragraph in the article:

"that ICE might detain and eventually deport an American citizen is not, however, beyond the bounds of possibility. "It has happened shockingly often" said Reed. One 2011 study found that as many as 4,000 citizens may have been deported in the previous year alone".

If President Cheeto gets as much grief over a deportation yet to be completed, why wasn't there 4,000 times more grief in 2011 for these deportees? The question practically answers itself.

My .02c

The difference is Cheetos wants to institutionalize authority in hands of border patrol to deport anyone without seeing a judge or legal help . That is the scary part . So any random 26 year old with a grudge or chip on his shoulder  gets unlimited authority against you if you happen to look the wrong color or talk with an accent

 

[inv0ke-epipen]

Thx!

I'd like to read up on those protests, and recall some coverage with the OCR on them.

So far I see articles on the practice,

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/us/measures-to-capture-illegal-aliens-nab-citizens.html

https://www.npr.org/2011/10/24/141500145/in-the-rush-to-deport-expelling-u-s-citizens



but nothing so far on the protests:

My .02c

weird, i don't see obama mentioned once in that npr article??

Remember when Obama approved the CIA's use of fake childhood vaccinations in Pakistan to get DNA from Pakistani kids to see if any were related to Osama bin Laden? Obama's decision led to a public health crisis in Pakistan where parents are not vaccinating their kids because they have lost confidence in the public health system. The tragic deaths of thousands of innocent children was a totally predictable outcome of Obama's decision. Can you imagine how outraged the media, activists, international community, Liberals, etc. would be had a similar decision been made by Trump? While temporally separating parents from kids at the border is not nice, it pales in comparison to Obama's cruelty to the kids of the world.

Sometimes you have to kill 1,000 kids to make sure the guilty get caught.

 

[morekaos]

Key paragraph in the article:

"that ICE might detain and eventually deport an American citizen is not, however, beyond the bounds of possibility. "It has happened shockingly often" said Reed. One 2011 study found that as many as 4,000 citizens may have been deported in the previous year alone".

If President Cheeto gets as much grief over a deportation yet to be completed, why wasn't there 4,000 times more grief in 2011 for these deportees? The question practically answers itself.

My .02c

This already happened, I saw it in a movie...
https://youtu.be/sFUFw1GH6ic
https://youtu.be/huBIavcvRsM

 

[qwerty]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/28/with-jobs-to-fill-businesses-play-the-visa-lottery.html


From the article:

Landscape work is harsh. Digging in the dirt and heaving equipment in blistering heat produces aching backs and raw hands. Low-skilled workers can earn a similar wage making a sandwich or working in an air-conditioned warehouse.

?We put a $5,000 ad in The Denver Post, and we didn?t have one applicant,? Ms. Fox said. Paying a wage high enough to attract local workers would put her out of business, she said, because her customers would balk at the resulting price increases.
Like Ms. Fox and other landscapers, Mr. Steinhauer signed planting contracts with customers last year based on the assumption that his crews would earn roughly $15 an hour. ?These are unskilled positions,? he said. ?Would you pay $50 to plant a bush in your garden??

Where are all the white people willing to do these jobs?

 

[fortune11]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/28/with-jobs-to-fill-businesses-play-the-visa-lottery.html


From the article:

Landscape work is harsh. Digging in the dirt and heaving equipment in blistering heat produces aching backs and raw hands. Low-skilled workers can earn a similar wage making a sandwich or working in an air-conditioned warehouse.

?We put a $5,000 ad in The Denver Post, and we didn?t have one applicant,? Ms. Fox said. Paying a wage high enough to attract local workers would put her out of business, she said, because her customers would balk at the resulting price increases.
Like Ms. Fox and other landscapers, Mr. Steinhauer signed planting contracts with customers last year based on the assumption that his crews would earn roughly $15 an hour. ?These are unskilled positions,? he said. ?Would you pay $50 to plant a bush in your garden??

Where are all the white people willing to do these jobs?

They are all on this forum copying and pasting gifs and videos and railing against immigrants . That is actually skilled labor  : )

 

[fortune11]

Here are your icons of civility below if anyone still is worried about it

This channel  has caused as much damage to the brains of otherwise perfectly normal septuagenarians

as opioids have to their millenial children

If our democracy fails it can be cliff-notes explained in just three words - Fox ?News? channel



Fox News CEO to underlings: Please do the impossible.


Fox News chief executive Suzanne Scott is calling for action. Via Politico?s Jason Schwartz comes news that the boss at the No. 1 cable-news outlet gathered producers to tell them that ?they would be held accountable for anything said on their air, and that it was their job to head off any inappropriate remarks, according to two people with knowledge of the meeting,? writes Schwartz. A source told Schwartz, ?She said, ?You are responsible for protecting the talent, protecting the brand.??

Protecting the brand from what, exactly?

Embarrassments, apparently. In recent weeks, Fox News has made headlines with a series of offensive statements from people opining on current events. Prior to that, Fox News grabbed headlines with a series of offensive statements from people opining on current events. What?s new now is Scott herself, who was elevated to chief executive of Fox News in mid-May.

To address the recent rash of problems, Scott wants more scripting on sensitive topics, plus more activism by producers to instruct hosts on the fly to push back against incendiary comments. Which is to say, the following:

Host Laura Ingraham compared the facilities housing migrant children separated from their parents to ?summer camps? in what appeared to be scripted remarks. Get that stuff out of the script!
When guest commentator Corey Lewandowski said ?womp womp? after hearing about a 10-year-old child with Down Syndrome, Fox News host Sandra Smith didn?t brush him back. Where was the producer whispering into her earpiece to shout him down?
When contributor David Bossie told an African American commentator that he was out of his ?cotton-pickin? mind,? host Ed Henry didn?t smack down the comment in the moment, but did issue a rebuke moments after the segment concluded. Get that done in real time!
Commentator Ann Coulter alleged that the migrant children at the border were actually ?child actors,? and she encountered little challenge from host Steve Hilton. Wake up, producer!
In a statement to Politico, a Fox News spokesperson noted, ?As the CEO of the network, Suzanne Scott regularly leads executive and editorial meetings and she expects accountability from her senior staff, which is what all good leaders do.?

And this particular leader, overnight, has turned ?producer at Fox News? into the very worst job in all of U.S. media. The burden now falls on you, Fox News producer, to stop Ann Coulter from being Ann Coulter, to stop Corey Lewandowski from being Corey Lewandowski, to stop David Bossie from being David Bossie. What?s more, it now falls on you to stop Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson ? top Fox News talent with lucrative contracts and towering egos ? from being Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson.

Not only that. An entire Fox News business model rests on the sort of conduct that Fox News producers are now under renewed pressure to counteract. Take the time that Ingraham instructed LeBron James to ?shut up and dribble?; or the time that Hannity hyped conspiracy theories about a murdered DNC staffer; or the time that ?Fox & Friends? host Brian Kilmeade joked about the Ray Rice domestic violence case; or the time that Bill O?Reilly unleashed an attack on Rep. Maxine Waters?s ?James Brown wig?; or the time that Bob Beckel of ?The Five? used the word ?Chinamen?; or the time that Glenn Beck, on ?Fox & Friends,? called President Barack Obama a ?racist?; or the time that Dr. Keith Ablow said ? just about anything.

There are hundreds more of such episodes. Is there a television producer in this universe who could have stopped a fraction of these offenses? Of course not: Fox News is uneditable.

Perhaps Scott?s instructions will change things. Perhaps hosts will be addressing stray and offensive remarks with greater dispatch. Perhaps we?ll be hearing more apologies. And perhaps the Fox News audience won?t like it. Outrageous moments, after all, have fueled Fox News and its seemingly interminable run as the ratings conqueror of cable news. The dynamic is well-worn: Someone says something awful on Fox News; criticism arrives via pallets of URLs, including from this blog; Fox News viewers sample the backlash, and embrace ever more tightly their network of choice.

 

[Kings]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/28/with-jobs-to-fill-businesses-play-the-visa-lottery.html


From the article:

Landscape work is harsh. Digging in the dirt and heaving equipment in blistering heat produces aching backs and raw hands. Low-skilled workers can earn a similar wage making a sandwich or working in an air-conditioned warehouse.

?We put a $5,000 ad in The Denver Post, and we didn?t have one applicant,? Ms. Fox said. Paying a wage high enough to attract local workers would put her out of business, she said, because her customers would balk at the resulting price increases.
Like Ms. Fox and other landscapers, Mr. Steinhauer signed planting contracts with customers last year based on the assumption that his crews would earn roughly $15 an hour. ?These are unskilled positions,? he said. ?Would you pay $50 to plant a bush in your garden??

Where are all the white people willing to do these jobs?

They are all on this forum copying and pasting gifs and videos and railing against immigrants . That is actually skilled labor  : )

excuse me, i get paid much more than $15 per hour to copy and paste gifs and videos