The Motor Court Company
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Plan 1 of Maricopa fails the feng shui test. There is a direct path from front door to the rear windows.
irvinehomeowner said:
Mendocino and Saragota in Stonegate
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I thought the feng shui issue was front door going directly to the back door... back windows are okay (a floor plan in Columbus Grove shifted their back door because they were made aware of it).
I would even consider one of the detached condos at LA if not for the $300 HOA and lack of driveway.
Is this really more preferable than the San Mateo/San Marco motor courts? I kind of like the fact that my neighbor directly across from me are the only other cars that would drive near my house. I visited my friend at SGE and thought it was a long walk from street side parking to his front door. I see a lot of people on my street park by the curb instead of in the garage, I think it would be a pain to carry loads of groceries or make multiple trips to the car with the long looping motor courts.
We are seriously thinking of getting Saratoga 1 instead of San Mateo 3 but that master bathroom looks extremely cramped in Saratoga 1. Anyone seen it?
Are people getting sneak previews? I thought the models were not open until the 22nd.
As for Feng Shui, here is a snippet from Feng Shui Prophet.....I believe the rule applies front to back door only:
Feng Shui Living Guide
Door
The door is the portal, the focus of any building whether a home or an office. Since this is the point where Chi enters and is distributed through the building, it is vital to the well-being of the occupants that the front door is located favorably on the house plan and in relation to the outside environment. This then is an appropriate place to start.
NOT appropriate arrangement inside your home/doors:
Front door faces a staircase
Front door faces a corner
Front door faces a column or post
Front door is visible from the back door
has a view of a washbasin or toilet
has a view of a stove or fireplace
faces the door of a bedroom
faces the door of a sitting room
is situated below a toilet
In Feng Shui, it's not recommended to work, study, relax or place a chair with your back to any doors. Sometimes it happens in an office, but these chairs should be arranged again at Feng Shui point of view.
Window
As with doors, some window shapes are more favorable than others for different areas of the house. A square or wide rectangular shaped window represents the earth element and promotes stability, while a round window represents the metal element and promotes focus and determination. A tall, narrow window represents tree energy, promoting communication and harmony. Whatever the shape or size of the window, it is probably the standard that windows are best opening outwards and opening fully. It is believed, brings good fortune and enhanced opportunities to the occupants. In Feng Shui windows that open inwards will have adverse effects on health, finance and career. If your windows do happen to open inwards, it is also a good idea to determine what sort of Chi is being admitted. If the Chi is negative Sha Chi, it can be diverted or blocked by the use of a vase of flowers at the window, hanging wind chimes or something similar.
I didn't walk in there and didn't have a measuring tape on me, but the gate could very well go all the way to the fence, or maybe with one of those red spacers on the other side only. That could make the gate 20"-24"? The bush is in the way of that side. Honestly, I can't get over how boxy Plan 1 looks. It's a major step down from Maricopa Plan 1, IMO. These are basically as small as you can get while maintaining a sidewalk and driveways. Though I shouldn't speak too soon, this is TIC we're talking about.
I mean obviously the most space efficient plan is a two-story cube. However, I rather like a slight variation from that, it adds character to the home. I don't look at that 1-story section of Maricopa plan 1 as a wasted airspace or opportunity. I see it as a momentary repose from the neighborhood of 25' walls towering over you. As the homes get closer and closer to the street, this effect seems more pronounced.
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irvinehomeowner
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Don't all the front door models go to the rear windows? Other than the 2x in Mendocino, which ones don't?The Motor Court Company said:
I thought the feng shui issue was front door going directly to the back door... back windows are okay (a floor plan in Columbus Grove shifted their back door because they were made aware of it).
irvinehomeowner
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Maybe... we registered with Scott there because we were thinking hard about it... that and Las Ventanas were the only ones we were serious about.qwerty said:
I would even consider one of the detached condos at LA if not for the $300 HOA and lack of driveway.
The Motor Court Company said:
Is this really more preferable than the San Mateo/San Marco motor courts? I kind of like the fact that my neighbor directly across from me are the only other cars that would drive near my house. I visited my friend at SGE and thought it was a long walk from street side parking to his front door. I see a lot of people on my street park by the curb instead of in the garage, I think it would be a pain to carry loads of groceries or make multiple trips to the car with the long looping motor courts.
Irvinecommuter
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akim997 said:
We are seriously thinking of getting Saratoga 1 instead of San Mateo 3 but that master bathroom looks extremely cramped in Saratoga 1. Anyone seen it?
bella
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Irvinecommuter said:
Are people getting sneak previews? I thought the models were not open until the 22nd.
As for Feng Shui, here is a snippet from Feng Shui Prophet.....I believe the rule applies front to back door only:
Feng Shui Living Guide
Door
The door is the portal, the focus of any building whether a home or an office. Since this is the point where Chi enters and is distributed through the building, it is vital to the well-being of the occupants that the front door is located favorably on the house plan and in relation to the outside environment. This then is an appropriate place to start.
NOT appropriate arrangement inside your home/doors:
Front door faces a staircase
Front door faces a corner
Front door faces a column or post
Front door is visible from the back door
has a view of a washbasin or toilet
has a view of a stove or fireplace
faces the door of a bedroom
faces the door of a sitting room
is situated below a toilet
In Feng Shui, it's not recommended to work, study, relax or place a chair with your back to any doors. Sometimes it happens in an office, but these chairs should be arranged again at Feng Shui point of view.
Window
As with doors, some window shapes are more favorable than others for different areas of the house. A square or wide rectangular shaped window represents the earth element and promotes stability, while a round window represents the metal element and promotes focus and determination. A tall, narrow window represents tree energy, promoting communication and harmony. Whatever the shape or size of the window, it is probably the standard that windows are best opening outwards and opening fully. It is believed, brings good fortune and enhanced opportunities to the occupants. In Feng Shui windows that open inwards will have adverse effects on health, finance and career. If your windows do happen to open inwards, it is also a good idea to determine what sort of Chi is being admitted. If the Chi is negative Sha Chi, it can be diverted or blocked by the use of a vase of flowers at the window, hanging wind chimes or something similar.
After seeing Maricopa plan 1's (friends) I actually think its a very practical layout for the most part. You can change out the center island to the same one a Cortona if you want seating and you can get storage instead of the home management. It makes the kitchen not huge, but very functional (it does suck you don't get a walk in pantry). I do wish the dining area were a bit bigger, but i guess it depends if you entertain. Sounds weird, but the one biggest drawback for me on plan 1 was this weird "rounded" wall near the entrance. The "great room" ends up being pretty functional with a nice sectional and tv on the wall. Its nice because it WAS priced at $786K, and you could get 4 bedrooms (although the bedroom option would increase the price).
After getting a plan 2 with no fireplace, it turns out our great room is actually REALLY big (our sofa purchase is looking expensive). Smaller could have worked, although we like the larger dining space, kitchen, and walk in pantry.
After getting a plan 2 with no fireplace, it turns out our great room is actually REALLY big (our sofa purchase is looking expensive). Smaller could have worked, although we like the larger dining space, kitchen, and walk in pantry.
ps9 said:
I didn't walk in there and didn't have a measuring tape on me, but the gate could very well go all the way to the fence, or maybe with one of those red spacers on the other side only. That could make the gate 20"-24"? The bush is in the way of that side. Honestly, I can't get over how boxy Plan 1 looks. It's a major step down from Maricopa Plan 1, IMO. These are basically as small as you can get while maintaining a sidewalk and driveways. Though I shouldn't speak too soon, this is TIC we're talking about.
irvinehomeowner
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I actually prefer the boxiness of the Plan 1 because that means they maximized usage of the 2nd floor space (which they did with a loft). The Maricopa Plan 1 looks lopsided to me.shadax said:
Well... Montecito is probably a smaller execution since there are no sidewalks on the majority of that tract. I much prefer these over motorcourt and driveway-less homes... so it does seem TIC is listening a little (they even put the laundry upstairs on all 4 models... and added ensuite bathrooms on the Plan 3).
irvinehomeowner said:
I mean obviously the most space efficient plan is a two-story cube. However, I rather like a slight variation from that, it adds character to the home. I don't look at that 1-story section of Maricopa plan 1 as a wasted airspace or opportunity. I see it as a momentary repose from the neighborhood of 25' walls towering over you. As the homes get closer and closer to the street, this effect seems more pronounced.
irvinehomeowner
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I agree with you from the aesthetic point of view... but my stance is function... and in the ever shrinking footprint TIC keeps using... vertical space is the only space left.
Irvine will end up like San Francisco.
Irvine will end up like San Francisco.
irvinehomeowner said:I agree with you from the aesthetic point of view... but my stance is function... and in the ever shrinking footprint TIC keeps using... vertical space is the only space left.
Irvine will end up like San Francisco.
More like this (coming soon to Lake Forest)
The Motor Court Company
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TIC is fast at adapting. They added ensuites after the success of Lambert Ranch. They abandoned San Marcos II in favor of San Mateo II. They reduce Santa Clara units by half and replace that with Los Altos West. They see that high 700's to mid 800's is a sweet spot for SFRs so they build Mendocino. I guess they are working on large multi-generation homes for the better parts of SG and Orchard Hills. maybe that's why they copy the floor plans so much - it is faster than re-doing focus group and going back to the drawing board.
irvinehomeowner said: