usctrojancpa
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Maybe the 5 feet is from the center of the block wall to the interior wall of the house? hahairvinehomeowner said:
Las Ventanas Plans 2+3 vs. Maricopa Plans 1+2
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i agree, sevilla's master baths are like this... based on all my surveys, it seems like a lot of people like sevilla. i thought it was awkward and besides the toll roads, the "jutting out bath" was the least desirable feature.
and no, i've never seen a "no tub option" for those with separate tubs and showers... for those with the shower/tub combo there are no tub options.
Welcome SecretGarden!
OH was initially intended as a higher end ($1M+) village but then the economy tanked and plans were put on hold. It will still be a more premium neighborhood but I bet they had to revamp their plans and include lower price points/detached condos etc...
I am sure prices will be similar to Laguna Altura or higher (another premium gated TIC project)--in fact LA will be a good test case for the market of these more expensive homes. My guess on time frame will be 2012/2013 depending on sales at LA.
School wise--someone will have to fact check me on this--half of OH will be TUSD & the other IUSD. The initial phases ready to go (gates, guard houses and roads are all in) appear to be closer to the 261 toll road and are TUSD zoned.
Maybe TIC is positioning OH for their higher end product, so as not to directly compete on price with the 5000 homes in the Great Park come 2013. Their only real competition in Irvine new construction $1M+ homes will be Lambert Ranch and few empty lots in Shady Canyon.
It is difficult to predict the future when it comes to holding value. Looking at this board, it would appear many buyers like new or newer homes; thus older homes in areas like El Camino or Walnut may be shunned by some. But if you look at Turtle Rock (also old), their value is relatively high and has held up well. Every location will have it's pluses and minuses.
Orchard Hills:
(These are theoretical since OH isn't even built yet)
+Brand new construction with latest floor plan/designs
+Gated
+Some lots with view/Hill topography
+Good TUSD schools (some may say that is a negative not being IUSD--though I disagree)
-High price, high HOA, high MR
-Fire danger
-Small lots for the price
-Proximity to toll road
Stonegate:
+Relatively new homes & floor plans
+Cheaper homes than OH
+Good IUSD schools
+Several pocket parks & pools
+Not adjacent to a freeway or tollway
-Relatively higher MR
-No gate (? perceived as not as exclusive--though many buyers could care less)
-still small lots
NorthwoodPointe:
+Mostly gated communities
+Good IUSD schools
+Relatively larger lots
+Lower MR
+Cheaper than OH
+3 car garages (this one for IHO)
-Older homes & floor plans
-Only one master plan pool & public park (?only two others have their own sub-hoa pool)
villiagepeople
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sgip said:
i agree, sevilla's master baths are like this... based on all my surveys, it seems like a lot of people like sevilla. i thought it was awkward and besides the toll roads, the "jutting out bath" was the least desirable feature.
and no, i've never seen a "no tub option" for those with separate tubs and showers... for those with the shower/tub combo there are no tub options.
iacrenter
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Saw the Maricopa models--liked Plan 2 the best. Wish they offered a loft on the 2nd floor. I didn't like the huge island on plan 3. All the model lots seemed cramped--par for the course I guess.
No real excitement for Laguna Altura if they are simply copying and pasting these floor plans from previous developments.
No real excitement for Laguna Altura if they are simply copying and pasting these floor plans from previous developments.
SecretGarden
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I'm new to this forum and this is my first post. 
This is a really useful forum and the members are so funny.
Did anyone notice the sales rep at Maricopa asking everyone to stop by after viewing the models and to tell him which model was their favorite? Does anyone know which one came out on top? Just curious. I hope they don't jack up the price on the one that was popular. I wish the builders would have virtual models and floorplans and that they'd ask that kind of question before they actually start building these communities. If the builder read some of the comments from this forum they would have a better idea of what potential homebuyers are looking for.
I personally liked Plan 2 first floor a lot but didn't care for the master bedroom/bathroom setup upstairs. The walk-in closet was in an awkward space and seemed like an afterthought. I echo what the other members said about that. They really could have configured the master bath and closet better without wasting all that space for that shower---more walk-in closet space rather than a big shower PLEASE!
I hope the builder doesn't hike up the prices too much with each successive phase because I would just prefer to pass in that case.
For some reason I fear that Stonegate (and thus Maricopa) will not hold value or appreciate much once Orchard Hills opens. Sort of like Oak Creek in relation to Quail Hill. Any thoughts on that? I also wonder how the eventual release of Orchard Hills in the distant future would impact Northwood Pointe (which is a resale area that I'm interested in purchasing.)
This is a really useful forum and the members are so funny. Did anyone notice the sales rep at Maricopa asking everyone to stop by after viewing the models and to tell him which model was their favorite? Does anyone know which one came out on top? Just curious. I hope they don't jack up the price on the one that was popular. I wish the builders would have virtual models and floorplans and that they'd ask that kind of question before they actually start building these communities. If the builder read some of the comments from this forum they would have a better idea of what potential homebuyers are looking for.
I personally liked Plan 2 first floor a lot but didn't care for the master bedroom/bathroom setup upstairs. The walk-in closet was in an awkward space and seemed like an afterthought. I echo what the other members said about that. They really could have configured the master bath and closet better without wasting all that space for that shower---more walk-in closet space rather than a big shower PLEASE!
I hope the builder doesn't hike up the prices too much with each successive phase because I would just prefer to pass in that case.
For some reason I fear that Stonegate (and thus Maricopa) will not hold value or appreciate much once Orchard Hills opens. Sort of like Oak Creek in relation to Quail Hill. Any thoughts on that? I also wonder how the eventual release of Orchard Hills in the distant future would impact Northwood Pointe (which is a resale area that I'm interested in purchasing.)
iacrenter
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SecretGarden said:I'm new to this forum and this is my first post.
For some reason I fear that Stonegate (and thus Maricopa) will not hold value or appreciate much once Orchard Hills opens. Sort of like Oak Creek in relation to Quail Hill. Any thoughts on that? I also wonder how the eventual release of Orchard Hills in the distant future would impact Northwood Pointe (which is a resale area that I'm interested in purchasing.)
Welcome SecretGarden!
OH was initially intended as a higher end ($1M+) village but then the economy tanked and plans were put on hold. It will still be a more premium neighborhood but I bet they had to revamp their plans and include lower price points/detached condos etc...
I am sure prices will be similar to Laguna Altura or higher (another premium gated TIC project)--in fact LA will be a good test case for the market of these more expensive homes. My guess on time frame will be 2012/2013 depending on sales at LA.
School wise--someone will have to fact check me on this--half of OH will be TUSD & the other IUSD. The initial phases ready to go (gates, guard houses and roads are all in) appear to be closer to the 261 toll road and are TUSD zoned.
irvinehomeowner
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They've addressed your "issues" with Maricopa at Cortona at LagAlt... they even cut the island down in the Plan 3, you just have to pay quite a bit more for it.iacrenter said:
iacrenter
Well-known member
bones said:
Maybe TIC is positioning OH for their higher end product, so as not to directly compete on price with the 5000 homes in the Great Park come 2013. Their only real competition in Irvine new construction $1M+ homes will be Lambert Ranch and few empty lots in Shady Canyon.
iacrenter
Well-known member
SecretGarden said:
It is difficult to predict the future when it comes to holding value. Looking at this board, it would appear many buyers like new or newer homes; thus older homes in areas like El Camino or Walnut may be shunned by some. But if you look at Turtle Rock (also old), their value is relatively high and has held up well. Every location will have it's pluses and minuses.
Orchard Hills:
(These are theoretical since OH isn't even built yet)
+Brand new construction with latest floor plan/designs
+Gated
+Some lots with view/Hill topography
+Good TUSD schools (some may say that is a negative not being IUSD--though I disagree)
-High price, high HOA, high MR
-Fire danger
-Small lots for the price
-Proximity to toll road
Stonegate:
+Relatively new homes & floor plans
+Cheaper homes than OH
+Good IUSD schools
+Several pocket parks & pools
+Not adjacent to a freeway or tollway
-Relatively higher MR
-No gate (? perceived as not as exclusive--though many buyers could care less)
-still small lots
NorthwoodPointe:
+Mostly gated communities
+Good IUSD schools
+Relatively larger lots
+Lower MR
+Cheaper than OH
+3 car garages (this one for IHO)
-Older homes & floor plans
-Only one master plan pool & public park (?only two others have their own sub-hoa pool)
irvinehomeowner
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That's the only one that really counts.iacrenter said:
irvinehomeowner
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Are they building an 85? there?IndieDev said:
ps99472
New member
Got a call from Maricopa sales, looks like I'm on deck, going over today to look over phase 2 release. Looks like a $700 increase over phase 1 base prices. I'm going to pass since I still want to look over Cortona at LA. Floor plan didn't change much, just want to get a feel of the LA area and see if the price is justified. I'll mention how the master bath has better execution at Cortona and see if they'll feedback to corporate about it.
usctrojancpa
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When did you register/pre-qualify with them?ps99472 said:
irvinehomeowner
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You should tell them to put the tech/loft spaces in Plans 1 and 2 at Maricopa also.