ICE or EV?

[momopi]

Not only is the ID Buzz overpriced but under ranged. Not even 300 mi on a family hauler is a no no for trips. Slow DC charging speed too.

Just wait until H/K brings their EV minivan over.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ToyotaSienna/comments/1g1zu0e/real_range

2024 Sienna Hybrid: 600+ miles per tank of gas.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

But it uses dinosaurs.

 

[ThirtySomethingWEquity]

If base taycans had an OK range i'd probably buy a used one now. Can't see myself shelling out 45k for a luxury car that only gets 180 miles at best though.

 

[morekaos]

…and another scam bites the dust..

Embattled EV maker Nikola files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection​

• Nikola filed for bankruptcy protection after failing to secure a buyer or raise additional funds to maintain operations.
• The filing marks the finale of the company’s yearslong fall from grace.
• Nikola’s core products are all-electric and fuel cell electric semitrucks.
• At its peak in 2020, Nikola was valued more than Ford Motor at $30 billion, inked a multibillion-dollar deal with General Motors and was considered the pinnacle of auto startups.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/19/nikola-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection.html?

 

[morekaos]

Fisker has always been sus (is that what the kids say?).

I'm still hoping Canoo pulls through.

They didn’t either think I need to revisit our Deadpool list…it’s gotten significantly shorter…what a waste

EV scorecard: September 1, 2023 S&P= 4576.00 02/19/25 =6135 +34% RETURN

Tesla IHO wins $245.01-$359.00
Rivian IHO yes, morekaos no $23.31-$14.20
Lucid IHO neutral, morekaos no $6.36-$3.38
Chinese EVs (BYD,Nio,etc) IHO yes, morekaos no
BYD $64.03-$46.99 NIO $11.00-$4.39
VinFast IHO no, morekaos no $29.50-$3.83
Fisker IHO doubtful, morekaos ? $5.96-$0.00
Big 3 IHO yes, morekaos doomed
GM $33.54-$47.35 F $12.14-$9.34
STL $18.23-$13.85
Big 3 Asian (Honda, Toyota, Hyundai/Kia) IHO yes, morekaos no
HMC $32.33-$27.08 TM $172.51-$180.24
HUN $85-$53.00
Euro IHO yes, morekaos no
VOLVO $20.00-$23.51 VOLK $125.30 - $97.46

NKLA $93.60-$0.00
Canoo $0.00

TOTAL DISASTER IF YOU INVESTED IN THIS DEADPOOL.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Where Canoo falls... Kia will rise:

Kia's first electric van, the PV5, spotted in the US for the first time: Here's what we know

After teasing the PV5 last week, Kia’s electric van was just spotted in the US for the first time. The...

electrek.co

Hoping for more EV vans than the ID Buzz.

 

[morekaos]

Where Canoo falls... Kia will rise:

Kia's first electric van, the PV5, spotted in the US for the first time: Here's what we know

After teasing the PV5 last week, Kia’s electric van was just spotted in the US for the first time. The...

electrek.co

Hoping for more EV vans than the ID Buzz.

Doooomed!!