ICE or EV?

Which car(s) will you be buying next?

  • ICE ICE Baby (morekaos dinosaur option)

    Votes: 13 31.0%

  • EV forEVa (unicorns for all)

    Votes: 23 54.8%

  • PHEV (I still have range anxiety)

    Votes: 4 9.5%

  • Hybrid (can't plug in yet)

    Votes: 5 11.9%

  • Alternative fuel (Hydrogen, vegetable oil, etc)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Total voters
    42
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…and another scam bites the dust..😂😂👎🏽🦄🌈

Embattled EV maker Nikola files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection​

  • Nikola filed for bankruptcy protection after failing to secure a buyer or raise additional funds to maintain operations.
  • The filing marks the finale of the company’s yearslong fall from grace.
  • Nikola’s core products are all-electric and fuel cell electric semitrucks.
  • At its peak in 2020, Nikola was valued more than Ford Motor at $30 billion, inked a multibillion-dollar deal with General Motors and was considered the pinnacle of auto startups.

 
irvinehomeowner said:
Fisker has always been sus (is that what the kids say?).

I'm still hoping Canoo pulls through.
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They didn’t either😂😂😂👎🏽 think I need to revisit our Deadpool list…it’s gotten significantly shorter…what a waste👎🏽😂😂😂🦄🌈

EV scorecard: September 1, 2023 S&P= 4576.00 02/19/25 =6135 +34% RETURN

Tesla IHO wins $245.01-$359.00
Rivian IHO yes, morekaos no $23.31-$14.20
Lucid IHO neutral, morekaos no $6.36-$3.38
Chinese EVs (BYD,Nio,etc) IHO yes, morekaos no
BYD $64.03-$46.99 NIO $11.00-$4.39
VinFast IHO no, morekaos no $29.50-$3.83
Fisker IHO doubtful, morekaos ? $5.96-$0.00
Big 3 IHO yes, morekaos doomed
GM $33.54-$47.35 F $12.14-$9.34
STL $18.23-$13.85
Big 3 Asian (Honda, Toyota, Hyundai/Kia) IHO yes, morekaos no
HMC $32.33-$27.08 TM $172.51-$180.24
HUN $85-$53.00
Euro IHO yes, morekaos no
VOLVO $20.00-$23.51 VOLK $125.30 - $97.46

NKLA $93.60-$0.00
Canoo $0.00

TOTAL DISASTER IF YOU INVESTED IN THIS DEADPOOL.
 
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irvinehomeowner said:
Yet the end of your article (which I know you never read) recommends buy:


Today, Evercore ISI’s Chris McNally upgraded the rating on Rivian to a Buy from a Hold while raising the price target on the stock to $35. Overall, the Street has a consensus price target of $28.20 on Rivian, alongside a Moderate Buy consensus rating.


Illiterate gonna illiterate.
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I told you, Wall Street analysts are morons…always late to the game and making the wrong calls consistently. These recommendation should’ve been switched, but I still wouldn’t touch the stock…that companies still pretty much doomed.😂😂😂👎🏽🦄🌈

Bank of America downgrades Rivian, citing soft 2025 outlook and Trump risks​

PUBLISHED MON, FEB 24 20258:44 AM ESTUPDATED 4 HOURS AGO



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Still the only auto company I own👍🏽😂😂😂

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This is why stupid government policy can destroy a whole economic sector with no viable upside or advantage in payment…this is the product of virtue signaling government meddling in the free markets…idiots… and we unfortunately have them here too…😡👎🏽😡😡🦄🌈

British carmakers’ switch to electric has descended into chaos

Carmakers are slowing down production because of green mandates – risking jobs and billions of pounds

BMW is stalling plans to restart production of electric Minis at its factory in Oxford…amid slow demand for electric vehicles (EVs) and the UK’s zero emission vehicle (ZEV) regulations – which are even more punitive than those operating across the European Union.

It calls into question not only production at Cowley, a site employing well over 3,000 people, but is a moment of truth for mass carmaking in Britain per se – a sector providing upwards of a million jobs, and many more in related industries and activities.

The UK’s switch away from petrol and diesel cars and towards EVs has now descended into chaos.

Carmakers previously happy to take subsidies to facilitate the huge upheaval of shifting from internal combustion engines to battery-powered cars, now bemoan weak consumer demand for EVs and the extremely punitive fines manufacturers face as a result.

A major reason is that carmakers endure massive ZEV mandate fines which actively discourage them from producing cars, makes it financially ruinous if they do.

That’s why conventional cars are being “rationed”, leading to soaring prices, as low EV sales mean manufacturers can only avoid ruinous fines by curtailing petrol and diesel car production.

Stellantis recently announced its long-standing Luton plant is closing, in part due to ZEV rules.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...armakers,and often expensive charging network.
 
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