ICE or EV?

[AW]

“No oil changes? Less brake wear? Reduction of noise and smog? Instant torque? Less maintenance?”

Can you? You asked a specific set of questions I gave you my opinion on each question (in purple) and then backed up that opinion with articles and data for reference.

since i have time, i'll do the work for you, because just looking at your posts it clearly shows how ignorant you are on the topic, at first it was comical, now it's just sad

Really? the average Joe might change his oil once a year, if that…most new cars come with no maintenance cost anyway but even old cars barely get this done and still operate normally…superfluous $50 a year.

no maintenance cost? $50 a year?? hahaha
completely out of touch on reality, skip assisted living, time for you to check into a skilled nursing facility

What It Costs To Maintain Your Car | Bankrate

Maintenance expenses significantly influence the overall cost of ownership — find out by how much.

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"...an electric vehicle or smaller vehicle tends to cost less. Electric vehicles are becoming more available across the market and can be a great option for drivers looking for lower maintenance costs...."

Less brake wear? Probably not true as EV’s weigh almost 1000 pounds more on average than an ICE….

Probably not true? hahaha... Regenerative braking apparently is new to you...

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/how-ev-maintenance-differs-from-cars

"The average ICE has over 1,000 parts, many of which must be maintained. Unlike ICE vehicles, EVs use motors to power the wheels. This dramatically reduces the number of moving parts in the powertrain, which means the car needs less care to keep everything working correctly."

instant torque? More a feature than advantage….who cares? just get joe from A to B is what matters

Who cares? Just like who cares about Ferrari stocks you own, it's just a vehicle from A to B is what matters right? what a joke...
Just like saying I can live by the water, long beach instead of newport beach, who cares, living by the water is what matters? lol
It matters

Sad, just sad...

 

[morekaos]

…. You really believe the average American does this every year? Talk about disconnection from reality….

Maintenance	Frequency	Expected cost
Oil change	Every 5,000 to 7,500 miles	$20 to $75
Basic inspection	Every 5,000 miles	$150 to $250
Tire rotation	Every 5,000 to 8,000 miles	$35 to $100
Wiper replacement	Every six months	$50 to $61
Brake pad replacement	Every 10,000 to 20,000 miles	$115 to $300 per axle

 

[AW]

…. You really believe the average American does this every year? Talk about disconnection from reality….

Maintenance	Frequency	Expected cost
Oil change	Every 5,000 to 7,500 miles	$20 to $75
Basic inspection	Every 5,000 miles	$150 to $250
Tire rotation	Every 5,000 to 8,000 miles	$35 to $100
Wiper replacement	Every six months	$50 to $61
Brake pad replacement	Every 10,000 to 20,000 miles	$115 to $300 per axle

So believe in what you say? $50 a year? haha, no, you're really disconnected from reality

 

[morekaos]

It may not even be that, nobody maintains their cars the way they should, nobody

 

[AW]

It may not even be that, nobody maintains their cars the way they should, nobody

You guys heard it here first, MK is saying maintaining a vehicle is less than $50/year.

A whole new level of... fill in the blank...

 

[irvinehomeowner]

“No oil changes? Less brake wear? Reduction of noise and smog? Instant torque? Less maintenance?”

Can you? You asked a specific set of questions I gave you my opinion on each question (in purple) and then backed up that opinion with articles and data for reference.

Nothing you posted refuted any of my points.

And the original question was:

Since you quote instead of read and digest... what "purported advances" do EVs "brag" about the ICE has?

The list I posted above are all factual, no oil changes, less brake wear, reduction of noise/smog, instant torque and less maintenance (again proven by @AW).

Where is your list of things the ICE cars can do that EVs brag about as claimed by your article. And the challenges was... not from anything you google... but from your own knowledge.

I know that's a tough concept... to not regurgitate... but you know... dinosaur gonna dinosaur.

 

[morekaos]

you can fill it up in five minutes and drive thousands of miles all around the country without having to worry about plugging it in anywhere.

 

[morekaos]

You guys heard it here first, MK is saying maintaining a vehicle is less than $50/year.

A whole new level of... fill in the blank...

in the real world with real people, yeah, that could be very true

 

[AW]

in the real world with real people, yeah, that could be very true

Less than $50/year maintaining a vehicle... that's some fantasy world you live in.... i've even provided link and not from some obscure blogger site... you're way far from reality... now I just feel sorry for you

 

[morekaos]

really? Your wife rotates your tires every three months? Your kids change their oil every 3000 miles? Your neighbor has his car tuned up every year? Not likely…that is reality.

 

[AW]

really? Your wife rotates your tires every three months? Your kids change their oil every 3000 miles? Your neighbor has his car tuned up every year? Not likely…that is reality.

HAHAHA, so your car is rolling on threads, because YOU don't rotate tires, can't imagine your engine block sludge inside since YOU don't change your oil, tune up? Guess that's more of a suggestion...

Edit: I don't feel bad for you since you're on the delusional, fantasy side, but would reiterate that I feel bad for your family. Life lessons going to hit them hard in the real world when stuff unexpectedly (or really, expected) breaks down, in the REAL world. Hence people, in the real world maintains their vehicle, unlike you...

 

[morekaos]

HAHAHA, so your car is rolling on threads, because YOU don't rotate tires, can't imagine your engine block sludge inside since YOU don't change your oil, tune up? Guess that's more of a suggestion...

Edit: I don't feel bad for you since you're on the delusional, fantasy side, but would reiterate that I feel bad for your family. Life lessons going to hit them hard in the real world when stuff unexpectedly (or really, expected) breaks down, in the REAL world. Hence people, in the real world maintains their vehicle, unlike you...

No, fortunately, I can do all that in my garage, I have know how and Lifts. I enjoy working on my cars, but people who don’t, don’t….and that is almost everybody.

 

[AW]

No, fortunately, I can do all that in my garage, I have know how and Lifts. I enjoy working on my cars, but people who don’t, don’t….and that is almost everybody.

So what that you have that in your garage. It's useless if you don't use it. ie $50 per year, haha

Reality is that people maintain their vehicles to some extent.
And it's WAAAY more than $50 per year (delusional)

 

[morekaos]

Like I said, I enjoy working on my cars and do all the time. You put way too much faith in average people not being lazy, they are. I guarantee you that half the cars around you haven’t been serviced in over a year….normal people have priorities elsewhere. Ask any mechanic, they will tell you, cars come in when they break rarely before…just human nature.

 

[AW]

Ah, so you just contradicted yourself again…

The average American would not maintain and change oils, etc, that it turns to sludge, or point of failure. Seizing engine, cracked short or long blocks, blown head gaskets. Guess what, that’s an engine replacement. And guess what doesn’t have any of these? EV’s!!! A win for all. People should just buy EV’s.

 

[morekaos]

Ah, so you just contradicted yourself again…

The average American would not maintain and change oils, etc, that it turns to sludge, or point of failure. Seizing engine, cracked short or long blocks, blown head gaskets. Guess what, that’s an engine replacement. And guess what doesn’t have any of these? EV’s!!! A win for all. People should just buy EV’s.

They won’t

 

[irvinehomeowner]

you can fill it up in five minutes and drive thousands of miles all around the country without having to worry about plugging it in anywhere.

This is not something that EVs brag about over ICE cars. Do you even read what you post?

 

[AW]

They won’t

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They already do.

 

[morekaos]

This is not something that EVs brag about over ICE cars. Do you even read what you post?

I know it’s a disadvantage they try to hide

 

[morekaos]

Another Record Broken: Q1 Electric Vehicle Sales Surpass 250,000, as EV Market Share in the U.S. Jumps to 7.2% of Total Sales - Cox Automotive Inc.

Cox Automotive publishes a quarterly Kelley Blue Book new-vehicle sales report enumerating electric vehicle sales.

www.coxautoinc.com

They already do.

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