Great Park Neighborhoods
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Hey Tyler,
You think Caesarstone is the one to go with over all other choices for quality, durability and look? I didn't really spend a whole lot of time looking at other countertop types. Just went with Caesarstone based on a friend's rec and what little info I gathered from the internet.
I like the durability and low maintenance aspect. I recall you went with it as well? Am I correct?
I have 2 comparisons for LR to other neighborhoods. My childhood growing up and where I lived prior to LR in Riverside.
LR is quite similar to my childhood neighborhood in Fountain Valley: most neighbors recognize and at least know the first names of their neighbors, and we're actually quite friendly with the neighbors closest to us. Kids are out playing the streets almost every evening. Lots of evening walkers. We've had a planned neighborhood-wide party/potluck at our common area. That said, there are some homeowners who keep to themselves.
In Riverside, where I lived for 8 years, I waved to my immediate neighbors, but that was about it. I knew the name of my neighbors on either side of my house, but interaction was minimal.
Both communities were new when I moved in. Completely different feel between LR and Riverside. How does LR compare to other Irvine communities? Can't comment, since I haven't lived elsewhere in Irvine.
Same with using 12" tile instead of 4-?"... lower labor costs, and material costs are probably close (so Lennar is "selling" an upgrade when it's really the same price as standard).
Factor that across the entire Pavilion Park project and you end up with the perception of "upgraded" when it really didn't cost the builders more.
It's a smart move. Lennar probably data crunched the number of "upgrades" that occurred in secondary baths, and it wasn't high enough to realize any gain by low-ending it (aka white tile) so they might as well give it a bit more upscale look to compete with TIC 'hoods.
And when the housing market tanks you'll be left in a ghost town with rotting homes and overgrown weeds. Just hope there are no squatters.... or zombies.
ROFL! Walking Dead starts up in a week, right? 8)
A lot of builders are doing that now...they know that people are going to upgrade things like countertops and cabinets so they throw it in to make people think they're getting value. TIC did that with most of the communities in Stonegate..give you $10K worth of upgrades but charge you $30K more on the price.
what a con job by TIC! freaking greedy company
irvinehomeowner
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Is E-Stone Silestone? I think that was it.
I think it was at Lennar because of those EI "Everything Included" labels they have everywhere... just re-checked the brochures... they call it "engineered stone".
One other thing, Lennar said the drywall was CertainTeed Air Renew drywall that cleans the air... ever heard of that?
I think it was at Lennar because of those EI "Everything Included" labels they have everywhere... just re-checked the brochures... they call it "engineered stone".
One other thing, Lennar said the drywall was CertainTeed Air Renew drywall that cleans the air... ever heard of that?
irvinehomeowner
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Now that I'm looking at the brochures, I think 5 Points is pulling a TIC and using the same subs/materials for all the homes. I see them using "E-Stone", GE appliances, Moen bathroom fixtures and Wayne-Dalton garage doors.
Chairman
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Tyler Durden said:
Hey Tyler,
You think Caesarstone is the one to go with over all other choices for quality, durability and look? I didn't really spend a whole lot of time looking at other countertop types. Just went with Caesarstone based on a friend's rec and what little info I gathered from the internet.
I like the durability and low maintenance aspect. I recall you went with it as well? Am I correct?
bones said:
I have 2 comparisons for LR to other neighborhoods. My childhood growing up and where I lived prior to LR in Riverside.
LR is quite similar to my childhood neighborhood in Fountain Valley: most neighbors recognize and at least know the first names of their neighbors, and we're actually quite friendly with the neighbors closest to us. Kids are out playing the streets almost every evening. Lots of evening walkers. We've had a planned neighborhood-wide party/potluck at our common area. That said, there are some homeowners who keep to themselves.
In Riverside, where I lived for 8 years, I waved to my immediate neighbors, but that was about it. I knew the name of my neighbors on either side of my house, but interaction was minimal.
Both communities were new when I moved in. Completely different feel between LR and Riverside. How does LR compare to other Irvine communities? Can't comment, since I haven't lived elsewhere in Irvine.
irvinehomeowner
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I think the cost of engineered stone in quantity is probably less than 4-?" white tile if you factor in installation. Dropping a slab of quartz on a counter is much easier than tiling that same space (which is why many tract homes also used "cultured" marble in secondary baths... ie laminate counter).Tyler Durden said:
Same with using 12" tile instead of 4-?"... lower labor costs, and material costs are probably close (so Lennar is "selling" an upgrade when it's really the same price as standard).
Factor that across the entire Pavilion Park project and you end up with the perception of "upgraded" when it really didn't cost the builders more.
It's a smart move. Lennar probably data crunched the number of "upgrades" that occurred in secondary baths, and it wasn't high enough to realize any gain by low-ending it (aka white tile) so they might as well give it a bit more upscale look to compete with TIC 'hoods.
irvinehomeowner
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I also forgot to mention that the sales staff in the community center (so for Pavilion Park, not any builder) mentioned more than once that there are no apartments in Pavilion Park.
So all you "owner elitists" can feel better.
So all you "owner elitists" can feel better.
irvinehomeowner said:I also forgot to mention that the sales staff in the community center (so for Pavilion Park, not any builder) mentioned more than once that there are no apartments in Pavilion Park.
So all you "owner elitists" can feel better.
And when the housing market tanks you'll be left in a ghost town with rotting homes and overgrown weeds. Just hope there are no squatters.... or zombies.
Chairman
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test said:irvinehomeowner said:I also forgot to mention that the sales staff in the community center (so for Pavilion Park, not any builder) mentioned more than once that there are no apartments in Pavilion Park.
So all you "owner elitists" can feel better.
And when the housing market tanks you'll be left in a ghost town with rotting homes and overgrown weeds. Just hope there are no squatters.... or zombies.
ROFL! Walking Dead starts up in a week, right? 8)
Irvinecommuter
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Tyler Durden said:
A lot of builders are doing that now...they know that people are going to upgrade things like countertops and cabinets so they throw it in to make people think they're getting value. TIC did that with most of the communities in Stonegate..give you $10K worth of upgrades but charge you $30K more on the price.
"Musick lies beside the Orange County Great Park, which is surrounded by a planned neighborhood of about 5,000 homes that could grow to 9,500"
http://www.voiceofoc.org/countywide...cle_22b34fa2-30c8-11e3-b017-001a4bcf887a.html
http://www.voiceofoc.org/countywide...cle_22b34fa2-30c8-11e3-b017-001a4bcf887a.html
jamboreedude
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Irvinecommuter said:
what a con job by TIC! freaking greedy company