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I liked Melrose much better than La Cresta and Melrose has bigger lots.  If I had to choose one , it would be Melrose.  But neither was as impressive as the Grove 2 model in LR.  Maybe people would rather live in Woodbury or are waiting for other hoods to open. <shrug>
 
Goriot said:
Greatpark Sales Update - Source: OC Register

58 of the 79 homes released are sold/reserved as of today.  Builders plan to release their second phase earlier than expected.
It seems like Lennar (24 out of 24 phase 1 sold out), Pulte, and Shea Homes selling really well.

Shea Homes (Sagewood) - 9 out of 9 Sold Out.
K. Hovnanian Homes (Harmony) - 3 out of 8 homes reserved.
Rcihmond American (Birch Trail) - 5 out of 8 homes reserved.
Taylor Morrison (Springhouse) - 3 out of 6 homes reserved.
Lennar (Beachwood) - 8 out of 9 homes reserved.
William Lyon Homes (Whistler) - 4 out of 9 homes reserved.
Pulte Homes (Hawthorn) - 8 out of 12 homes  reserved.
Lennar (Rosemist) - 10 out of 10 Sold Out.
Ryland Homes (Melrose) - 4 out of 7 reserved.
Lennar (Roundtree) - 8 out of 8 Sold Out.  2nd Phase already released - 4 out of 8 reserved.

link
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/homes-529834-sold-reserved.html
 
Isn't pavilion park very close to 133 toll road?  No one cares about traffic noise and pollution?  Also, isn't pavilion park very close to the mountain?

Finally, pavilion park is ONLY close/next to the great park.  Their future house is actually IN great park.
 
yaliu07 said:
Isn't pavilion park very close to 133 toll road?  No one cares about traffic noise and pollution?  Also, isn't pavilion park very close to the mountain?

Finally, pavilion park is ONLY close/next to the great park.  Their future house is actually IN great park.

It's close to the landfill.  I'm thinking PP and PS are in the same boat, bad location.
 
We went out the first weekend (crazy amount of people and super hot) and then went back again this past weekend just to check out the places we didn't get to.

Most of the designs were pretty meh...however there is serious value to be had in the higher end home.  My favorite was Rosemist...great layout, a lot of yard, and a 3 car garage for less than $1.1 million.  Currently zoned into great Irvine schools.  Blows plans like Arcadia out of the water as far as value.

I really wonder how much the military base thing will affect property values in the future.

There are some drawbacks though:

Traffic is going to be bad...everyone is going to try and get on Sand Canyon or the 133...so far one way in and one way out of the area

Being next to the 133 is not great

Too far away from any retail space.  I know they are going to open one up somewhere around there but they said that about PS as well.
 
PP is on the other side of PS in relationship to the landfill.  The same distance as Stonegate is to the landfill.  It wouldn't concern me.  Some homes will be right next to the toll road, those lots suck.  Others will further and you won't hear the road noise.  Woodbury Town Center is right there...you want more?
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Traffic is going to be bad...everyone is going to try and get on Sand Canyon or the 133...so far one way in and one way out of the area
We talked about this too.

One weekday afternoon I was going up Jeffrey and I couldn't believe how crowded it was. Is this how it is regularly now that Woodbury is built out and Stonegate is almost halfway there? Sand Canyon seems to be crowded too (but there is that railroad overpass construction there).
 
yaliu07 said:
Isn't pavilion park very close to 133 toll road?  No one cares about traffic noise and pollution?  Also, isn't pavilion park very close to the mountain?

Finally, pavilion park is ONLY close/next to the great park.  Their future house is actually IN great park.

They plan to build a pedestrian bridge across Irvine Blvd to connect PP (pavillion park) to GP (great Park).

This whole area will have tons of bridges. JOST will have several pedestrian bridges. Whatever happened to the pedestrian bridge across the 133 connecting WBE (woodbury east) to GP?
 
Irvinecommuter said:
We went out the first weekend (crazy amount of people and super hot) and then went back again this past weekend just to check out the places we didn't get to.

Most of the designs were pretty meh...however there is serious value to be had in the higher end home.  My favorite was Rosemist...great layout, a lot of yard, and a 3 car garage for less than $1.1 million.  Currently zoned into great Irvine schools.  Blows plans like Arcadia out of the water as far as value.

I'm too lazy to search for it. Who knows the estimate formula converting MR into the home price?

It would be good to make similar comparisons of GP vs TIC products that incorporates the varying MR costs.

In retrospect, those early buyers of LR (lambert ranch) had a damn good deal for those large home--no MR, gated, IUSD, all SFR. Then add in all the RE price appreciation in the last 2 years.... cha ching.
 
iacrenter said:
In retrospect, those early buyers of LR (lambert ranch) had a damn good deal for those large home--no MR, gated, IUSD, all SFR. Then add in all the RE price appreciation in the last 2 years.... cha ching.

Yup, I'm quite happy with my LR purchase.  :)
 
I thought you lived in PS...

NYT said:
iacrenter said:
In retrospect, those early buyers of LR (lambert ranch) had a damn good deal for those large home--no MR, gated, IUSD, all SFR. Then add in all the RE price appreciation in the last 2 years.... cha ching.

Yup, I'm quite happy with my LR purchase.  :)
 
NYT said:
iacrenter said:
In retrospect, those early buyers of LR (lambert ranch) had a damn good deal for those large home--no MR, gated, IUSD, all SFR. Then add in all the RE price appreciation in the last 2 years.... cha ching.

Yup, I'm quite happy with my LR purchase.  :)
Me too... oh wait... that doesn't stand for Ladera Ranch.
 
Tyler Durden said:
That mello roos is baked into the sale price.  The developer paid it and then passed it on to the buyer by upping the sales price to make up for it.  So it works out the same.  Pay now or pay later.
While that may true, with the price run-up, location aside, house-wise you got more for $1m in LR than you do now in CV... and while you get maybe equal or a bit more in GP, you have to pay ~$7000 in MRs every year.

So there is something to be said about getting a deal in LR.
 
Tyler Durden said:
iacrenter said:
Irvinecommuter said:
We went out the first weekend (crazy amount of people and super hot) and then went back again this past weekend just to check out the places we didn't get to.

Most of the designs were pretty meh...however there is serious value to be had in the higher end home.  My favorite was Rosemist...great layout, a lot of yard, and a 3 car garage for less than $1.1 million.  Currently zoned into great Irvine schools.  Blows plans like Arcadia out of the water as far as value.

I'm too lazy to search for it. Who knows the estimate formula converting MR into the home price?

It would be good to make similar comparisons of GP vs TIC products that incorporates the varying MR costs.

In retrospect, those early buyers of LR (lambert ranch) had a damn good deal for those large home--no MR, gated, IUSD, all SFR. Then add in all the RE price appreciation in the last 2 years.... cha ching.

That mello roos is baked into the sale price.  The developer paid it and then passed it on to the buyer by upping the sales price to make up for it.  So it works out the same.  Pay now or pay later.

but at least the interest is tax deductible, most people there, if not all, probably cant deduct property taxes because they make too much money.
 
I'm lazy and don't feel like looking it up...what are HOA and gate fees in Lambert?

Also If I'm comparing the upper tier houses of GP and LR, I think I'd take GP.  Wasn't too impressed by Lambert. Even at the more affordable levels, I'd take that single level at Hawthorn over a lot of others.
 
Yes... I understand the time difference and price appreciation.

Even back then, what you could find new from TIC for $1m was a bit subpar to LR... AND you had to pay MRs (again, location issues aside). It's why LR sold so quickly compared to other TIC properties.

Fast forward to now and that difference is more pronounced.

I'd like to see what happens with Portola Springs. Roughly the same location, both have MRs, but GP has better product (in my opinion) so I think it will move faster than PS.
 
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