coronavirus

[Mety]

UNBELIEVABLE! It's like talking to a 5-yr old.

 

[Mety]

BTW I'm not attacking eyephone. I'm just copying some of his lines because I find some of them funny. It's like "Welcome Back YF!" Anyways, IHO and eyephone will probably keep talking like this for the rest of their lives here. Makes me think... are we ever going to see each other while we're alive? Probably not. Maybe in Heaven if anyone makes it.  ;D

 

[eyephone]

Is that all you got? It is interesting as the pandemic gets worst you are changing your stance.

Really? Show me where my stance changed. You keep forgetting we were both arguing against qwerty, you just got hurt when I wouldn't support your notion that what has been done in other countries can easily be done here while at the same time you are posting articles where Americans are resisting things like social distancing which demonstrates it's not that easy to get a country as large and populous as the US to do what New Zealand does.

Have you found that post yet where you claim I said "it was just a cough or lighter than a flu"?

And as a note, as more information comes in, everyone has the right to change their opinion... that's how life works. Have you figured that out yet?

You can make fun of people. BUT you do not like it when someone dishes it back to you.

I think you got this backwards. You're the only one who gets really annoyed when anyone criticizes you and you have personally attacked the most people on this forum by talking about their jobs, where they live, their race, their body type, etc... why do you think other members have you on ignore (that's why no one responds to you).

Sorry, I know my post is getting too long and you won't read all of it so I'll wait for one of your off-tangent canned responses:

- Double Standard
- You are like a 5-year old
- I'm a genius
- Get out of here
- You're not my boss
- You aren't reading the Bible right
- Taco/beans or some other racist remark like "brothers you play basketball with"

Or your favorite... "It's Trump's fault" (at least this one I have some agreement with)

Sorry my statements do not contradict itself like other people.
I can blame Trump like many people in America are.
My statement was for qwerty but I guess it goes to you too.

You replied to my post. Learn to use the forum properly.

We all know you are not that smart. (Not the brightest)

Who is this "we" that you are talking about? And why do you have to say "not that smart" and (not the brightest) in parentheses? Do you not understand your own posts so you are talking to yourself? Is that who "we" is? You, yourself and your other personality?

So what I said those things. I see nothing wrong with it.

And that's the hypocrisy. You get so triggered when people disagree with you and then your response is insults instead of civil discourse.

I am not the one who almost got jumped in the parking lot.
(btw I was not on TI or the other website at that time. But man that story is funny.)
The question is: What did you say or do to Tyler to have that escalate that far?

Hah... another classic "eyephone has no idea what he's talking about" moment.

It wasn't me Tyler threatened, it was another member who he thought was my wife. Imagine that... threatening to fight a woman. Maybe you are like Tyler. I recall you said you "know where to find me".

I know I said I would try to ignore you but I've grown tired of all your name calling hypocrisy... wasn't it you who complained because when I called you Captain Obvious (which most people on this board will agree with)? Even Mety was trying to be civil with you and you started questioning his Christianity... who does that?

Let me guess... your next response will be:

- You're a joke
- You're fat
- You're a b*****

Why don't you just try and talk to people instead of insulting what they do for a living?

Nah nah.. let me copy what you previously said. Your changing the story. Lol

 

[eyephone]

BTW I'm not attacking eyephone. I'm just copying some of his lines because I find some of them funny. It's like "Welcome Back YF!" Anyways, IHO and eyephone will probably keep talking like this for the rest of their lives here. Makes me think... are we ever going to see each other while we're alive? Probably not. Maybe in Heaven if anyone makes it.  ;D

Well because of your questions. Some people now know that covid19 can be spread through air. (all good)

World economic forum Article: This Japanese experiment shows how easily coronavirus can spread and what you can do about it

Microdroplets less than 100th of millimetre in size may spread the coronavirus.
Research in Japan shows microdroplets can remain in the air for 20 minutes in enclosed spaces.
Opening a window or a door can eliminate the droplets.

Invisible risk

The researchers simulated a situation with 10 people in an enclosed space %u2013 the size of an average school classroom. When someone coughed, as expected, the larger droplets fell to the ground within one minute.

But 20 minutes after the cough, the microdroplets were still floating in the air %u2013 and had spread through the entire room.

However, when a window was opened, the microdroplets were quickly swept away in the breeze. Any airflow, it seems, will get rid of the super-light particles.

The researchers also say wearing a mask can greatly reduce the spread of microdroplets, helping to protect both the speaker and their listeners from the risk of catching coronavirus.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/coronavirus-microdroplets-talking-breathing-spread-covid-19/

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Nah nah.. let me copy what you previously said. Your changing the story. Lol

Yeah you do that. And let me help you since you are having problems finding these posts you keep making claims about... it's in the Snowflakes thread and I did indeed mention TylerDurden threatening *another* member in a parking *garage* (not lot).

Maybe that's the problem... what is posted and what you think you read is a disconnect.

(still waiting for that post where you claim I said it was just a cough)

 

[eyephone]

I later said Trump said it was a cough. But you did downplay the covid virus at first.

Nah nah.. let me copy what you previously said. Your changing the story. Lol

Yeah you do that. And let me help you since you are having problems finding these posts you keep making claims about... it's in the Snowflakes thread and I did indeed mention TylerDurden threatening *another* member in a parking *garage* (not lot).

Maybe that's the problem... what is posted and what you think you read is a disconnect.

(still waiting for that post where you claim I said it was just a cough)

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I later said Trump said it was a cough.

So you're mixing up my posts on TI with what Trump says? Ok.

But you did downplay the covid virus at first.

Again... find where I downplayed it. Asking about it is not the same thing... once it starting hitting the US I think most of us were serious about it. I was buying up supplies way before others. I even said that it would affect the market when it was still in China. I started the Masks thread before CDC and Fed/State/County/Locals suggested it.

Like I said, your mind is mixing all of us up so you're attributing posts to the wrong people.

I am Neegan.

 

[eyephone]

...

Here you go.

I don't understand.

Based on the numbers, regular flu is more harmful/deadly than coronavirus.

Why would we stay home for corona but not flu?

I don't remember ever having a flu shot in my life yet I'm in public places quite often without a mask... am I immune? I don't think so because I have had bouts of the flu just not often.

Are the symptoms of corona worse than the flu?

I do think I had H1N1 when that was "trendy"... that was probably the worse flu I ever had. I also had a nagging cough when that was a "thing" a few years ago. What can I expect if I catch corona?

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Here you go.

I don't understand.

Based on the numbers, regular flu is more harmful/deadly than coronavirus.

Why would we stay home for corona but not flu?

I don't remember ever having a flu shot in my life yet I'm in public places quite often without a mask... am I immune? I don't think so because I have had bouts of the flu just not often.

Are the symptoms of corona worse than the flu?

I do think I had H1N1 when that was "trendy"... that was probably the worse flu I ever had. I also had a nagging cough when that was a "thing" a few years ago. What can I expect if I catch corona?

As I said, we didn't know anything about it and I was asking about it. At that time, the impact was still a mystery as it hadn't really started in the US yet. There was still even questions about community spread at that time.

Once we knew more... it became clear how serious this was.

Maybe you're confusing when I was questioning the math models.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

This is what I mean by once we get more information, it changes our perspective... just a few days later I posted this:

With so many of the Chinese industries shut down... there may be an understatement of how bad this is in China.

I was joking about this before but maybe this is the event that will take down housing.

But Irvine housing isn't going to be affected as much by Chinese, wouldn't you say?

Different scenario than FCB buying power.

This could turn into an economic crisis.

Where's my props here eyephone?

Am I a genius like you?

So let's reset and draw the line in the sand since now we have more data (although there are still many unknowns):

On one side we have those who still think this is serious:

eyephone
IHO (yes... I am aligned with eyephone)
kenkoko

On the other side, we have those who think it's not that serious?

morekaos
starmanMBA
qwerty?

And then there is the middle?

Gah... maybe this needs to be a poll.

 

[Happiness]

Covid 19 found in semen:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...apparently-been-detected-in-semen/ar-BB13O7Wt

Gov. Newsome to declare BJs are not essential.

 

[iacrenter]

This is an interesting article from the NY Times. It analyzes cell phone data from April 2019 to assess for viral risk of businesses based on length of stay and weekly visits per square foot. The highest risk would be greater length of stay and a high concentration of visitors per square foot (e.g. Chili's, Texas Roadhouse). It suggests there could be a more nuanced approach to safely opening up businesses. This data of course is pre-COVID19 and consumer behavior may have significantly changed. It also doesn't account for safety measures that governments and businesses will be implementing (e.g. limiting number of customers, requiring masks, mobile ordering/curbside pickup etc...).


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/06/opinion/coronavirus-us-reopen.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

 

[nosuchreality]

Well that might put a damper on things.  January spread trace in restaurant in China.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article#tnF1

 

[aquabliss]

Isn?t C2 like 20ft away from A1?
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764-f1

 

[Kings]

how 'bout some fake coronavirus testing lines from cbs news?  anything for a few clicks though, right?

CBS News edits testing story after Project Veritas exposes clinic?s line-stuffing ploy

CBS News has deleted footage from a Grand Rapids, Mich., health clinic for a report on coronavirus testing after Project Veritas revealed that the clinic packed a line of patients waiting for tests. The story aired last Friday on the franchise program ?CBS This Morning? and was reported by Adriana Diaz.

?We found a 25 percent increase in testing at Cherry Health,? says Diaz in the package, referring to a health center with more than 20 sites in Michigan.

One of the shots in the presentation shows cars queuing up:

As it turns out, that queue may not represent the actual demand for coronavirus tests in Grand Rapids. Project Veritas, the sting-video operation headed by James O?Keefe, secured evidence that Cherry Health had padded the line for the sake of appearances while the operation was being showcased in a national news story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/06/cbs-news-edits-testing-story-after-project-veritas-exposes-clinics-line-stuffing-ploy/

https://youtu.be/oQWRCECbN-Y
https://youtu.be/oQWRCECbN-Y

 

[Kings]

here's another one for you to noodle on: hospitals get paid more for covid patients - whether they actually have it or not - so long as they list them as such.  hospitals are dying right now and will do anything to stay afloat: fake lines, inflated covid death counts...need i say more?

Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators

Our ruling: True

We rate the claim that hospitals get paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE.

Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 or if it's considered presumed they have COVID-19 absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases.

This higher allocation of funds has been made possible under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act through a Medicare 20% add-on to its regular payment for COVID-19 patients, as verified by USA TODAY through the American Hospital Association Special Bulletin on the topic.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

 

[irvinebullhousing]

VP Pence spoke person and a dozen of secret service tested positive. So if they do end up in the hospital, they will count as a flu. . Save money is good for our country.

 

[eyephone]

more than 2,500 new cases in Florida since reopening Monday
https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-live-updates-global-covid-19-death-toll/story?id=70592970


Georgia reported over 1,000 new coronavirus cases on the same day its governor lifted the stay-at-home order for most residents
https://www.businessinsider.com/geo...cases-as-kemp-lifts-stay-at-home-order-2020-5

 

[StarmanMBA]

more than 2,500 new cases in Florida since reopening Monday


Georgia reported over 1,000 new coronavirus cases on the same day its governor lifted the stay-at-home order for most residents.

And how scary is that!  Stay at home.  Let the rest of us go about our lives.  You don't tell us what to do, and we sure won't tell you what to do.  It's the newest definition of "Choice".  And sorry, the feeble excuse that WE are putting others in jeopardy is boloney.  The normal bell shaped curve that would have described the Covid 19 deaths has simply been flattened out and extended for months, at profound cost and misery, with no decrease in total number of deaths.

 

[qwerty]

Starman bringing it!!!

Yeah i don?t understand the stay at home crowd being reluctant to open, you are free to stay home.

@eyephone, in your typical trolling way you post data that isn?t even relevant to the opening. Any 5 year old would know those cases in Florida were probably infections from before the opening. And that is definitely the case in Georgia. The consensus is that it takes 3-5 days before you even feel anything once you are infected. And then people probably wait a couple days before going to the doctor.