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I am not saying there is no merit for vaccination. But it is true the risk and reward ratio is not as slam dunk as the mainstream media wants you to believe that warrants a vaccine mandate for every one older than 5 years old.
COVID cases have been exaggerated (Fauci, MSNBC)
Vaccine adverse effects are real and tangible(Australia compensation scheme)
Natural immunity exists (Israel study, British study)
Early treatment protocol exists and may be effective (India and Japan)
Kids are super low risk (abundant science researches on this)
 
As long as your safe with the vaccine. But how about other? 

akula1488 said:
I am not saying there is no merit for vaccination. But it is true the risk and reward ratio is not as slam dunk as the mainstream media wants you to believe that warrants a vaccine mandate for every one older than 5 years old.
COVID cases have been exaggerated (Fauci, MSNBC)
Vaccine adverse effects are real and tangible(Australia compensation scheme)
Natural immunity exists (Israel study, British study)
Early treatment protocol exists and may be effective (India and Japan)
Kids are super low risk (abundant science researches on this)
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Gov. Larry Hogan declared a 30-day state of emergency that mobilizes the National Guard to assist state and local health officers at testing and vaccine sites and authorizes the state Department of Health to take steps to increase staffing at overwhelmed hospitals.?

Hogan predicted that Maryland is expected to see its ?most challenging? phase of the pandemic in the next four to six weeks. He said models are showing that hospitals could see more than 5,000 people hospitalized, which would amount to a 250 percent increase in hospitalizations.?

?With this new surge of omicron it?s important for Marylanders to go back to using common sense and doing the things that will keep us safe: avoiding crowds, keeping your distance, washing your hands, and yes, once again, wearing the damn masks,? Hogan said.

On Tuesday, the state health department reported 3,057 people hospitalized with covid-19, an record since the start of the pandemic. The number of patients hospitalized is an increase of 500 percent in the last seven weeks, Hogan said.?

Hospitals implemented pandemic surge plans when they reached 2,000 covid-19 patients, which included the transfer of patients from overcrowded hospitals to hospitals that could accommodate them and the cancellation of non-urgent elective surgeries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/01/04/hogan-declares-emergency-coronavirus/[/quote]

Nothing to see here folks, just another Republican Governor kowtowing to the lying left wing media creating unnecessary panic.  /s
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Stop all the panic porn...

Universities' Covid Policies Defy Science and Reason
Parents and students should challenge dogma with data.

At these institutions of higher learning and thousands more, science is supposedly held in the highest esteem. So where is the scientific support for masking outdoors? Where is the scientific support for constantly testing fully vaccinated young people? Where is the support for the confinement of asymptomatic, young people who test positive for a virus to which they are already immune on a campus of other immune people?

The data simply do not justify any of it.

According to the CDC, the risk of a fully vaccinated adult ending up in the hospital for Covid was 1 in 26,000 for the week ending in November 27. Who was that one person? Not a college student. One analysis of breakthrough infections by age found that the average age of a vaccinated person being hospitalized is 72 years, and the average age of a vaccinated person dying of Covid is 80. The data clearly tell us that the risk of a breakthrough Covid infection resulting in severe illness is extremely rare. When it does occur, it is profoundly skewed toward septuagenarians and octogenarians.

From the beginning of this pandemic, the risk of Covid to young people has always been extremely low, a finding public health officials have downplayed instead of acknowledged. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, children have represented 0.00%-0.27% of all Covid-19 deaths.

In other words, a total of 803 American children have died from Covid or with Covid over the last two years. That?s less than the number of total deaths from both influenza and RSV infection in a typical year before the pandemic. A recent study of children in Germany found that no healthy child between the ages of 5 and 17 died of Covid during a 15-month period when nearly all were unvaccinated. Zero. In the whole country.

And yet there is very much a public health crisis facing young people. It is a crisis that?s been created by these draconian Covid policies?a crisis that?s the result of depriving young Americans of the basic enjoyment of life and the benefits of human connection.
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/un...9.Spc2Da3HroWSYuerfVfkw4e0gJgnSb2Cqr3u3KZlpQY
 
First, Fauci admitted there is a difference between hospitalization because of COVID vs with COVID.
Secondly, I gave an example how adverse reactions could be under stated.
Lastly, virtually every scientists would agree the risk of COVID is not the same for everyone. Young and healthy, especially kids, have much lower risk. Are we injecting them to protect the vulnerable? Or there is some $$$$ incentives behind?
Forgot to mention why renowned hospitals like John Hopkins doesn't have a early treatment protocol for COVID?




irvinehomeowner said:
@akula:

You did not read iacrenter's post... people suffering/dying from Covid is much more than any vaccine side effects.
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But your vaccinated tho

akula1488 said:
First, Fauci admitted there is a difference between hospitalization because of COVID vs with COVID.
Secondly, I gave an example how adverse reactions could be under stated.
Lastly, virtually every scientists would agree the risk of COVID is not the same for everyone. Young and healthy, especially kids, have much lower risk. Are we injecting them to protect the vulnerable? Or there is some $$$$ incentives behind?
Forgot to mention why renowned hospitals like John Hopkins doesn't have a early treatment protocol for COVID?




irvinehomeowner said:
@akula:

You did not read iacrenter's post... people suffering/dying from Covid is much more than any vaccine side effects.
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Virus is virusing...this was going to go this way..masks..mandates...whatever...its how God designed us...

SSI: We can have our normal lives back in two months

According to Tyra Grove Krause, the contagious Omikron variant could become a helper for us in the fight against coronavirus.

- Omikron is here to stay, and it will provide some massive spread of infection in the coming month. When it's over, we're in a better place than we were before, the assessment reads.

According to her, this indicates that the infectious Omikron variant is milder, and that many will thus be infected without having a serious course. And so it will provide good immunity in the population.
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/2022-01-03-ssi-vi-kan-have-vores-normale-liv-tilbage-om-to-maaneder
 
K19 Widowmaker.


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The reactor breaks in the Russian sub.
The captain sends his engineers in chemical suits rather then radiation suits to fix the problem.
Big drama ensues as he is sending his crew to their heroic deaths.

Anyway, those guys still wore the chemical suits cause it had some protection.
Same goes with minimizing COVID.  It's not perfect but it's all we got.


 
The volume is the same...If you were under that curve, A or B, you got the Salmon Mousse...either for breakfast or lunch or maybe late supper, with a  mask or not, with a jab or two or three...
https://youtu.be/jMBsZC-FJNE
 

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Well, it's official - Orange County's single day cases (5,800 and climbing) have broken last Winter's peak one-day record (4,800).

Hospitalizations have more than tripled in a mere two weeks (a jump from 188 to 614) and at this rate our hospital system will probably be overwhelmed sometime in the next 10 days.  The ICU has about doubled in this same timeframe (56 to 110 cases). 

According to the dashboard, this is still a pandemic of the unvaccinated at 87% of hospitalizations.



 
morekaos said:
The volume is the same...If you were under that curve, A or B, you got the Salmon Mousse...either for breakfast or lunch or maybe late supper, with a  mask or not, with a jab or two or three...
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Do you even understand what flattening the curve means? Please educate yourself before misleading people... again.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
morekaos said:
The volume is the same...If you were under that curve, A or B, you got the Salmon Mousse...either for breakfast or lunch or maybe late supper, with a  mask or not, with a jab or two or three...
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Do you even understand what flattening the curve means? Please educate yourself before misleading people... again.
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What do you think flattening the curve means?
 
morekaos said:
irvinehomeowner said:
morekaos said:
The volume is the same...If you were under that curve, A or B, you got the Salmon Mousse...either for breakfast or lunch or maybe late supper, with a  mask or not, with a jab or two or three...
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Do you even understand what flattening the curve means? Please educate yourself before misleading people... again.
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What do you think flattening the curve means?
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Ironically, it?s basically labeled with a light blue line in the chart you posted.
 
The whole point of flattening the curve was not to reduce infections or deaths. The volume under the curve does not change. By pressuring down the apex of the bell curve you are simply redistributing the volume over a longer duration. They sold that to the public to, yes, try to hold that line below the systems abilities and not inundate it all at once.  But Under both curves those bellow the curve got infected or died. For some it just took longer but in the end the numbers didn?t change, just the velocity. Virus gonna virus, try as you might the end result is the same.
 
morekaos said:
The whole point of flattening the curve was not to reduce infections or deaths. The volume under the curve does not change. By pressuring down the apex of the bell curve you are simply redistributing the volume over a longer duration. They sold that to the public to, yes, try to hold that line below the systems abilities and not inundate it all at once.  But Under both curves those bellow the curve got infected or died. For some it just took longer but in the end the numbers didn?t change, just the velocity. Virus gonna virus, try as you might the end result is the same.
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No more people die.  Quit lying to rationalize your failure to act resulting in more deaths and suffering.

The stats are in all over the place.

Japan: 17,000 Covid deaths.  USA 800,000.
Vaccinations?  Pretty much a straight line correlation.
Current hospitalizations?  Again, vaccine is proven massively effective.

The lies you repeat are killing people.
 
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