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Kind of sad that vaccinated people were misled by the media who suppress all negative information regarding the vaccine. Potential side effects aside, It does not prevent transmission and infection as in the traditional definition of a vaccine(I think it is more a immunity booster than a vaccine) So even if you are jabbed and want to be responsible, it is still better to practice social distancing and wear masks and keep good hygiene like washing your hands often. I guess what I am trying to say this false belief of invincibility by the jabbed population might actually keep spreading Covid further.


morekaos said:
Doin exactly what they said they would?it?s the pandemic of the ?.,or not so much?

Isolated Cruise With 100% ?Fully Vaccinated? People Onboard Gets Hit With Covid Outbreak


Despite the requirement that all ship?s passengers and crew had to be vaccinated prior to boarding, 10 people have tested positive for COVID-19 on board the Norwegian Breakaway cruise liner.

The Norwegian Breakaway had departed New Orleans on November 28 and was scheduled to return there this weekend. On its route, the ship made a number of ports calls in Belize, Honduras, and Mexico, according to the Louisiana Department of Health.
[url]https://thelibertydaily.com/isolated-cruise-with-100-fully-vaccinated-people-onboard-get-hit-with-covid-outbreak/[/url]
 
Another facebook like post.

akula1488 said:
Kind of sad that vaccinated people were misled by the media who suppress all negative information regarding the vaccine. Potential side effects aside, It does not prevent transmission and infection as in the traditional definition of a vaccine(I think it is more a immunity booster than a vaccine) So even if you are jabbed and want to be responsible, it is still better to practice social distancing and wear masks and keep good hygiene like washing your hands often. I guess what I am trying to say this false belief of invincibility by the jabbed population might actually keep spreading Covid further.


morekaos said:
Doin exactly what they said they would?it?s the pandemic of the ?.,or not so much?

Isolated Cruise With 100% ?Fully Vaccinated? People Onboard Gets Hit With Covid Outbreak


Despite the requirement that all ship?s passengers and crew had to be vaccinated prior to boarding, 10 people have tested positive for COVID-19 on board the Norwegian Breakaway cruise liner.

The Norwegian Breakaway had departed New Orleans on November 28 and was scheduled to return there this weekend. On its route, the ship made a number of ports calls in Belize, Honduras, and Mexico, according to the Louisiana Department of Health.
[url]https://thelibertydaily.com/isolated-cruise-with-100-fully-vaccinated-people-onboard-get-hit-with-covid-outbreak/[/url]
 
So two anti-vaxx morons keep spreading vaccine misinformation. Nobody, and I repeat, NOBODY, said that the vaccine will 100% prevent you from catching COVID. 10 people out of 3200 is pretty much in line with what the efficacy is. In fact, 10 out of 3200 is less than 1%, which means the vaccine works better than it's supposed to.

Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.
 
And this is also the reason that CDC still recommends to mask up in crowded areas even if you're vaccinated. Because, as been pointed out over and over, the vaccine doesn't prevent 100%. So stop being a moron and use this as an excuse to spread misinformation.
 
Forbes article: Nearly All States Have At Least 70% Of Hospital And ICU Beds Occupied (date 12/5/21)

Nearly all U.S. states have at least 70% of their hospital and intensive care unit beds occupied and could face hospital constraints if coronavirus cases continue to surge amid the spread of the delta variant and new omicron variant.

There are 611,917 (78.7%) hospital beds and 65,226 (79.3.%) intensive care units occupied in the U.S., with Covid-19 patients occupying 59,579 (7.75%) of hospital beds and 13,736 (17.53%) of ICU beds, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

Rhode Island has the lowest statewide hospital capacity in the nation with 87.97% of its hospital beds in use, though only about 7% are occupied by Covid-19 patients.

Massachusetts, which last week recorded its highest count of Covid-19 cases since January, is right behind with 87.63% of its hospital beds in use, and multiple hospitals have reported their ICUs are completely full.

Seventeen other states ? many of which have seen a spike in coronavirus cases ?  have more than 80% of hospital beds occupied: Pennsylvania (86.86%), West Virginia (85.08%), Michigan (84.95%), Missouri (84.71%), Maryland (84.46%) Washington (83.47%), Georgia (83.24%), New York (82.73%), Minnesota (82.71%), New Hampshire (82.21%), Connecticut (81.42%), North Dakota (81.25%), Nebraska (80.94%), Ohio (80.63%), Oregon (80.60%), Nevada (80.57%) and Arizona (80%).

New Hampshire and New Mexico, which both had a high average rate of Covid-19 cases over the past week, lead the country in the percentage of ICU beds occupied by Covid-19 patients, with 44.34% and 40.36%, respectively.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimber...t-least-70-of-hospital-and-icu-beds-occupied/

Another spike?
 
3% of vaccine injuries are fatal. This is from FDA and Pfizer based on a 90 day study when the vaccine just rolled out, information that was released at end of Nov that FDA want to lock up for 55 years. The chance of vaccine injury is not zero. This is not mis information.
And according to a Pfizer board member, their vaccine doesn't cause death others do. Does that mean overall vaccine has a higher fatality rate?

These are facts that ones can easily verify. I am wondering why Calbears refuse to see facts and promote vaccinate mandate for everyone. Is he so scared of Coronavirus that not only he triple jab himself wearing triple masks staying at his tiny apartment watching MSNBC and CNN and cursing at moderate and right wingers by blaming them for his inability to afford a new house in Irvine and watching the price keeps going up?
 
CalBears96 said:
Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.

So exactly which part of that report was a lie?
https://rumble.com/embed/vl2old/?pub=4
 
CalBears96 said:
So two anti-vaxx morons keep spreading vaccine misinformation. Nobody, and I repeat, NOBODY, said that the vaccine will 100% prevent you from catching COVID. 10 people out of 3200 is pretty much in line with what the efficacy is. In fact, 10 out of 3200 is less than 1%, which means the vaccine works better than it's supposed to.

Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.

Of course he lies. You read what he said, its the internet its okay to lie. lol
 
akula1488 said:
3% of vaccine injuries are fatal. This is from FDA and Pfizer based on a 90 day study when the vaccine just rolled out, information that was released at end of Nov that FDA want to lock up for 55 years. The chance of vaccine injury is not zero. This is not mis information.
And according to a Pfizer board member, their vaccine doesn't cause death others do. Does that mean overall vaccine has a higher fatality rate?

These are facts that ones can easily verify. I am wondering why Calbears refuse to see facts and promote vaccinate mandate for everyone. Is he so scared of Coronavirus that not only he triple jab himself wearing triple masks staying at his tiny apartment watching MSNBC and CNN and cursing at moderate and right wingers by blaming them for his inability to afford a new house in Irvine and watching the price keeps going up?


The wording is confusing on your post.
Are you telling me 3% of people who got the COVID vaccine are dead?
What does 3% of vaccine injuries are fatal mean?


Can't you just make it simple for us smooth brains and tell us how many people have died due to the shot?
 
eyephone said:
CalBears96 said:
So two anti-vaxx morons keep spreading vaccine misinformation. Nobody, and I repeat, NOBODY, said that the vaccine will 100% prevent you from catching COVID. 10 people out of 3200 is pretty much in line with what the efficacy is. In fact, 10 out of 3200 is less than 1%, which means the vaccine works better than it's supposed to.

Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.

Of course he lies. You read what he said, its the internet its okay to lie. lol


Again...what exact part of that report was a lie?  The ships name?  passenger amount?  destinations?  I'll tell you the lie is very likely the number of actual infections...You really think Norwegian or the industry want anyone to know the truth, just as they are opening back up?  That infection number (not even counting asympmtomaics) is likely much higher than 10.  The lie is, they initially claimed 100% vaccine efficacy and now its closer to 40% with a need for more boosters...that is the ugly lie.  Watch this video of headlines running from last year to last month and see the drop from 100% in the headlines to 40% as they figured out how ineffective they ended up being.
https://rumble.com/embed/vl2old/?pub=4
 
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
CalBears96 said:
So two anti-vaxx morons keep spreading vaccine misinformation. Nobody, and I repeat, NOBODY, said that the vaccine will 100% prevent you from catching COVID. 10 people out of 3200 is pretty much in line with what the efficacy is. In fact, 10 out of 3200 is less than 1%, which means the vaccine works better than it's supposed to.

Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.

Of course he lies. You read what he said, its the internet its okay to lie. lol


Again...what exact part of that report was a lie?  The ships name?  passenger amount?  destinations?  I'll tell you the lie is very likely the number of actual infections...You really think Norwegian or the industry want anyone to know the truth, just as they are opening back up?  That infection number (not even counting asympmtomaics) is likely much higher than 10.  The lie is, they initially claimed 100% vaccine efficacy and now its closer to 40% with a need for more boosters...that is the ugly lie.  Watch this video of headlines running from last year to last month and see the drop from 100% in the headlines to 40% as they figured out how ineffective they ended up being.
https://rumble.com/embed/vl2old/?pub=4

Your a nice person. (I assume)
But you tend to bend truth or leave something out.
 
zubs said:
akula1488 said:
3% of vaccine injuries are fatal. This is from FDA and Pfizer based on a 90 day study when the vaccine just rolled out, information that was released at end of Nov that FDA want to lock up for 55 years. The chance of vaccine injury is not zero. This is not mis information.
And according to a Pfizer board member, their vaccine doesn't cause death others do. Does that mean overall vaccine has a higher fatality rate?

These are facts that ones can easily verify. I am wondering why Calbears refuse to see facts and promote vaccinate mandate for everyone. Is he so scared of Coronavirus that not only he triple jab himself wearing triple masks staying at his tiny apartment watching MSNBC and CNN and cursing at moderate and right wingers by blaming them for his inability to afford a new house in Irvine and watching the price keeps going up?


The wording is confusing on your post.
Are you telling me 3% of people who got the COVID vaccine are dead?
What does 3% of vaccine injuries are fatal mean?


Can't you just make it simple for us smooth brains and tell us how many people have died due to the shot?

Probably no one died and injuries are likely a sore arm for a few hours, but "facts" are in the mind of the beholder. "In the U.S., rough?ly 10,000 peo?ple a day die," Po?land said. "By chance alone, thou?sands of those are going to die with?in X num?ber of hours or days of get?ting a COVID vac?cine. Does that mean it caused it? No more than the many thou?sands of peo?ple who get in a car ac?ci?dent today. Did the vac?cine cause their ac?ci?dent?"
https://www.startribune.com/list-of...hat-it-seems-public-officials-warn/600116412/
 
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
CalBears96 said:
So two anti-vaxx morons keep spreading vaccine misinformation. Nobody, and I repeat, NOBODY, said that the vaccine will 100% prevent you from catching COVID. 10 people out of 3200 is pretty much in line with what the efficacy is. In fact, 10 out of 3200 is less than 1%, which means the vaccine works better than it's supposed to.

Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.

Of course he lies. You read what he said, its the internet its okay to lie. lol


Again...what exact part of that report was a lie?  The ships name?  passenger amount?  destinations?  I'll tell you the lie is very likely the number of actual infections...You really think Norwegian or the industry want anyone to know the truth, just as they are opening back up?  That infection number (not even counting asympmtomaics) is likely much higher than 10.  The lie is, they initially claimed 100% vaccine efficacy and now its closer to 40% with a need for more boosters...that is the ugly lie.  Watch this video of headlines running from last year to last month and see the drop from 100% in the headlines to 40% as they figured out how ineffective they ended up being.
https://rumble.com/embed/vl2old/?pub=4

Your a nice person. (I assume)
But you tend to bend truth or leave something out.

NPR: Over a dozen COVID cases were found on a cruise ship that just docked in New Orleans

"One of those cases, which was a South African crew member who was in isolation for the entirety of the cruise, is suspected to have the COVID-19 Omicron variant," a Norwegian Cruise Lines spokesperson said in an email to NPR.
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/06/1061799633/norwegian-cruise-lines-covid-outbreak-new-orleans-omicron

You did not mention there was a South African member that allegedly  might have Covid Omicron. (that means maybe might have the new variant according to NPR)
Therefore, it kinda makes sense that covid spread around the ship. (I am guessing)

For entertainment purposes only  ;)

* You just casually skipped or forgot to mention about the South African.
 
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
CalBears96 said:
So two anti-vaxx morons keep spreading vaccine misinformation. Nobody, and I repeat, NOBODY, said that the vaccine will 100% prevent you from catching COVID. 10 people out of 3200 is pretty much in line with what the efficacy is. In fact, 10 out of 3200 is less than 1%, which means the vaccine works better than it's supposed to.

Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.

Of course he lies. You read what he said, its the internet its okay to lie. lol


Again...what exact part of that report was a lie?  The ships name?  passenger amount?  destinations?  I'll tell you the lie is very likely the number of actual infections...You really think Norwegian or the industry want anyone to know the truth, just as they are opening back up?  That infection number (not even counting asympmtomaics) is likely much higher than 10.  The lie is, they initially claimed 100% vaccine efficacy and now its closer to 40% with a need for more boosters...that is the ugly lie.  Watch this video of headlines running from last year to last month and see the drop from 100% in the headlines to 40% as they figured out how ineffective they ended up being.
https://rumble.com/embed/vl2old/?pub=4

Your a nice person. (I assume)
But you tend to bend truth or leave something out.

I am, but when you call someone a liar you need to point out were in that article the lie is.  Challenge, it, invalidate it if you can but don't just scream "liar, liar pants on fire" as a rebuttal.  I didn't write it but you seem to think there are inaccuracies.  I would like to know where.
 
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
CalBears96 said:
So two anti-vaxx morons keep spreading vaccine misinformation. Nobody, and I repeat, NOBODY, said that the vaccine will 100% prevent you from catching COVID. 10 people out of 3200 is pretty much in line with what the efficacy is. In fact, 10 out of 3200 is less than 1%, which means the vaccine works better than it's supposed to.

Moreliar, stop spreading vaccine misinformation. And akula, stop being a moron. Doctors are saying that the vaccine helps prevent spreading COVID, not 100% prevents it. And as long as there are a bunch of unvaccinated morons, it makes the job of the vaccine a lot harder.

Of course he lies. You read what he said, its the internet its okay to lie. lol


Again...what exact part of that report was a lie?  The ships name?  passenger amount?  destinations?  I'll tell you the lie is very likely the number of actual infections...You really think Norwegian or the industry want anyone to know the truth, just as they are opening back up?  That infection number (not even counting asympmtomaics) is likely much higher than 10.  The lie is, they initially claimed 100% vaccine efficacy and now its closer to 40% with a need for more boosters...that is the ugly lie.  Watch this video of headlines running from last year to last month and see the drop from 100% in the headlines to 40% as they figured out how ineffective they ended up being.
https://rumble.com/embed/vl2old/?pub=4

Your a nice person. (I assume)
But you tend to bend truth or leave something out.

I am, but when you call someone a liar you need to point out were in that article the lie is.  Challenge, it, invalidate it if you can but don't just scream "liar, liar pants on fire" as a rebuttal.  I didn't write it but you seem to think there are inaccuracies.  I would like to know where.

I just did read above. Haha
 
"crew member who was in isolation for the entirety of the cruise," Not a factor...however the infections jumped from 10 to 12 now they admit 17...70% jump in just `12 hours...it is actually much higher and 100% were vaccinated....works great!!

Both Norwegian Cruise Lines and the Port of New Orleans said the cruise line requires all guests and crew members to be fully vaccinated, with on-site testing and proof of vaccination needed in order for people to board.
 
morekaos said:
"crew member who was in isolation for the entirety of the cruise," Not a factor...however the infections jumped from 10 to 12 now they admit 17...70% jump in just `12 hours...it is actually much higher and 100% were vaccinated....works great!!

Both Norwegian Cruise Lines and the Port of New Orleans said the cruise line requires all guests and crew members to be fully vaccinated, with on-site testing and proof of vaccination needed in order for people to board.

Yes it is a factor. Omicron is contagious.
 
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