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Liar Loan said:
You don't seem to grasp the difference between a population and a sample.  A case count of four is not a enough to draw the conclusions that you did.  When you said "it shows that it helps to be vaccinated" that is misinformation akin to anything Fox News would run with.
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I wasn't trying draw conclusions from these cases that vaccination helps because you and I already know that it's been proven by the Delta surge. These cases just show that it helps. Still.

To refresh your memory, back in July-September, when there was a surge in COVID cases, more than 95% of the hospitalized COVID patients were unvaccinated. And this happened across the US, from states like Alabama where only 30% of the eligible population was vaccinated to states like California where 65% of the eligible population was vaccinated.
 
Lol morons at WHO said this. Let's see how far leftist calbear spin this one. Basically anything that doesn't fit his narrative, it must be misinformation by those white supremacists. If it comes from scientific journal or reputable organization like WHO, he just stays silent and make personal attacks.

morekaos said:
The WHO is spreading misinformation, ?morons??they must watch Fox News?.

A top World Health Organization (WHO) official said there is ?no evidence? to suggest that CCP virus booster doses would offer ?greater protection? to healthy people.

Dr. Mike Ryan, the WHO?s emergency director, questioned the logic of some countries trying to produce more booster doses to vaccinate anyone aged 18 and older.

?Right now, there is no evidence that I?m aware of that would suggest that boosting the entire population is going to necessarily provide any greater protection for otherwise healthy individuals against hospitalization and death,? Ryan said.
[url]https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/covid-19-virtual-press-conference-transcript---1-december-2021[/url]
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Why is the CEO of Fox News vaccinated? The disinformation coming from her network is another story.
People will be shocked to find out that she is vaccinated.
As I have always said, as long as the 1% elite is healthy then then they can care less about the plebs. gg

 
Wow, the vaccine is kicking ass!

Yep, kicking ass!  You see England has 81% of the over 12 crowd fully vaccinated.  If they only are accounting for 55% of cases.  That means the 19% unvaxxed are accounting for 45% or again almost 3.5X the per capita cases of vaxxed.
How is the vaccine and booster rollout going?
So far, more than 51 million people have had a first vaccine dose - some 89% of over-12s. More than 46 million - 81% of over-12s - have had both doses.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833
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morekaos said:
Don't come out of your caves just yet...Danger! Danger! Will Robinson!!! Virus Gotta Virus

Majority of England's Omicron cases ARE double-vaccinated: Health chiefs reveal 55% of those with Covid super-strain had both jabs amid fears it can dodge shots - as UK daily cases creep up
Data on confirmed Covid cases in England show how the Omicron variant is already taking hold in the country
Proportion of confirmed positive tests that didn't detect the spike protein increased from 0.1% to 0.3%
One scientist said it equates around 60 more cases with hallmark than usual, suggesting Omicron infections
Comes as R rate spirals from less than one to 3.5 in South Africa's Omicron epicentre Gauteng province
Lead UK epidemiologist says Omicron infections likely appear mild because of immunity from past infections
WHO officials suggested on Thursday that Covid cases were milder in those who caught the Omicron strain
Information released today revealed SAGE have suggested work from home guidance and vaccine passports
Documents revealed cases could surge to 'similar or even larger' than previous waves
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10271463/First-sign-Omicon-spreading-Britain-Chart-shows-uptick-CASES-super-variant-hallmarks.html[/url]
https://youtu.be/OWwOJlOI1nU
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nosuchreality said:
Wow, the vaccine is kicking ass!

Yep, kicking ass!  You see England has 81% of the over 12 crowd fully vaccinated.  If they only are accounting for 55% of cases.  That means the 19% unvaxxed are accounting for 45% or again almost 3.5X the per capita cases if vaxxed.
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But according to akula, that's not how you calculate cases per capita. According to him, it's 55% vaccinated cases and 45% unvaccinated cases, regardless of how many are vaccinated and how many are unvaccinated. Far right wingers are funny.
 
I can't believe that I'm partially agreeing with the purple poster...at least about letting them cull themselves.

The problem is that they still want to use up the hospital resources once they are ill, jeopardizing the rest of us if we happen to get in a car accident or have a health emergency.  And of course they also serve as a reservoir to select more infectious mutations...

If only the refuseniks would just stay home when they get sick.

morekaos said:
eyephone said:
They can never answer why the top Republicans are vaccinated.
(Some of the responses on youtube chat that people are lying that the top Republicans have been vaccinated) Sorry it is a complete joke.

Even on talk irvine there are people that got vaccinated but talking chit about vaccinations. It does not make sense.
They say freedom, but how about are freedom to live a normal life. (like Howard Stern said)
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..Because they chose to be...you guys keep getting mixed up on choice vs mandates.  Could care less who is vaccinated.  You should be happy to let the "moronic" unvaccinated cull themselves out.  If you choose to be vaccinated, great.  Don't force those who do not want the jab to consent..they won't. And don't say it keeps you safer...vaccinated carry the same viral loads and can infect just as many as the un-vaccinated.
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freedomcm said:
I can't believe that I'm partially agreeing with the purple poster...at least about letting them cull themselves.

The problem is that they still want to use up the hospital resources once they are ill, jeopardizing the rest of us if we happen to get in a car accident or have a health emergency.  And of course they also serve as a reservoir to select more infectious mutations...

If only the refuseniks would just stay home when they get sick.
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And that's the problem. They don't trust doctors when it comes to the vaccine, but they run to the hospital right away and take up hospital resources when they contract COVID.
 
I am a moderate with critical thinking skills. I am not anti vaccine but anti mandate and I just want people to know vaccine is not as safe as they claim to be so people need to make the risk and reward analysis.

Yes in this case vaccine gives you 3.5X protection than unvaccined against COVID variant infection, but guess what, the unvaccinated do not have to worry about vaccine injuries and long term health effects.

People are starting to wake up as there is unusually high number of soccer players collapsing on the field due to heart issues since 2020  and media is coming up with this for the general public:https://www.standard.co.uk/news/hea...nditions-covid-london-physicians-b969436.html

I hope you have good health and hopefully you can sleep better at night and comfortable knowing the risk you took

CalBears96 said:
nosuchreality said:
Wow, the vaccine is kicking ass!

Yep, kicking ass!  You see England has 81% of the over 12 crowd fully vaccinated.  If they only are accounting for 55% of cases.  That means the 19% unvaxxed are accounting for 45% or again almost 3.5X the per capita cases if vaxxed.
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But according to akula, that's not how you calculate cases per capita. According to him, it's 55% vaccinated cases and 45% unvaccinated cases, regardless of how many are vaccinated and how many are unvaccinated. Far right wingers are funny.
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CalBears96 said:
freedomcm said:
I can't believe that I'm partially agreeing with the purple poster...at least about letting them cull themselves.

The problem is that they still want to use up the hospital resources once they are ill, jeopardizing the rest of us if we happen to get in a car accident or have a health emergency.  And of course they also serve as a reservoir to select more infectious mutations...

If only the refuseniks would just stay home when they get sick.
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And that's the problem. They don't trust doctors when it comes to the vaccine, but they run to the hospital right away and take up hospital resources when they contract COVID.
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I think they trust Joe Rogan over a doctor that has gone to medical school or medical research idk.

 
1. Nice copy and paste. I dont think you are a moderate.
2. Covid dont care if you are a republican or democrat! It infects and kills people with or without preconditions.

akula1488 said:
I am a moderate with critical thinking skills. I am not anti vaccine but anti mandate and I just want people to know vaccine is not as safe as they claim to be so people need to make the risk and reward analysis.

Yes in this case vaccine gives you 3.5X protection than unvaccined against COVID variant infection, but guess what, the unvaccinated do not have to worry about vaccine injuries and long term health effects.

People are starting to wake up as there is unusually high number of soccer players collapsing on the field due to heart issues since 2020  and media is coming up with this for the general public:https://www.standard.co.uk/news/hea...nditions-covid-london-physicians-b969436.html

I hope you have good health and hopefully you can sleep better at night and comfortable knowing the risk you took

CalBears96 said:
nosuchreality said:
Wow, the vaccine is kicking ass!

Yep, kicking ass!  You see England has 81% of the over 12 crowd fully vaccinated.  If they only are accounting for 55% of cases.  That means the 19% unvaxxed are accounting for 45% or again almost 3.5X the per capita cases if vaxxed.
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But according to akula, that's not how you calculate cases per capita. According to him, it's 55% vaccinated cases and 45% unvaccinated cases, regardless of how many are vaccinated and how many are unvaccinated. Far right wingers are funny.
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It's funny that Trump supporting akula pretends to be a moderate.

"I'm not anti-vaxx, but I just keep spreading misinformation about the vaccine." ::)

Doctors say that COVID vaccine is safe, but I'm going to listen to a Trump supporter about these made up risks. Okay...
 
Even the FDA is saying the vaccine is generally safe with rare side effects. By saying it is safe dropping all the disclaimer it is quite misleading.

Please stop narrative driven medical misinformation.

I am an moderate because you are too far in the left making everyone else looks right.

You keep calling me Trump supporter like it is a bad thing. I think it is worse to support a dementia patient. Both candidates have flaws but some one with dementia should not be the powerful person in the world.


CalBears96 said:
It's funny that Trump supporting akula pretends to be a moderate.

"I'm not anti-vaxx, but I just keep spreading misinformation about the vaccine." ::)

Doctors say that COVID vaccine is safe, but I'm going to listen to a Trump supporter about these made up risks. Okay...
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You have said nothing moderate on talk irvine. (I think)
However I do remember you asking what is the best boba place in Irvine. hahaa

akula1488 said:
Even the FDA is saying the vaccine is generally safe with rare side effects. By saying it is safe dropping all the disclaimer it is quite misleading.

Please stop narrative driven medical misinformation.

I am an moderate because you are too far in the left making everyone else looks right.

You keep calling me Trump supporter like it is a bad thing. I think it is worse to support a dementia patient. Both candidates have flaws but some one with dementia should not be the powerful person in the world.


CalBears96 said:
It's funny that Trump supporting akula pretends to be a moderate.

"I'm not anti-vaxx, but I just keep spreading misinformation about the vaccine." ::)

Doctors say that COVID vaccine is safe, but I'm going to listen to a Trump supporter about these made up risks. Okay...
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Far left like calbear: Vaccine is 100% safe. Everyone including young kids and babies should get it. Taking booster forever. Denying therapeutics and other countries more neutral information on Covid and vaccine.

Far right: vaccine does not work. It has microchip and meant to cull human population. COVID is a hoax nothing more than a common flu.

I am in the middle so that makes me a moderate.
 
Akula says it's worse to support a dementia patient and yet he's a Trump supporter. This moron doesn't even know why Trump had to take that cognitive test.

Anti-vaxx akula keeps spreading misinformation about the vaccine and calls himself a moderate. And it's a huge joke that this far right winger is calling eyephone and me too far left. That's because to a far right winger, everyone else is far left.
 
How many times I have to say this? I am not anti vaccine and I am anti mandate. Vaccine has quite bit of health risk supported by medical journals and doctors that you choose to ignore. Anything that doesn't fit your narrative is being called misinformation. Anyone you don't agree with are being called morons.
You still cannot answer why kids need to have vaccine mandate. You ignore information from FDA, WHO and CDC if they have any languages that can make vaccine look bad.

CalBears96 said:
Akula says it's worse to support a dementia patient and yet he's a Trump supporter. This moron doesn't even know why Trump had to take that cognitive test.

Anti-vaxx akula keeps spreading misinformation about the vaccine and calls himself a moderate. And it's a huge joke that this far right winger is calling eyephone and me too far left. That's because to a far right winger, everyone else is far left.
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Why is calbears shamelessly promoting a mandate for a vaccine that is still experimental, no liability for the manufacturers, proven known side effects(from reputable medical journals), not really effective preventing infection and transmission?

Peer reviewed science paper from HK. Guess HK scientists and doctors are Trump supporters and far right, white supremacists lol.or simply morons too?
Increased Myocarditis/Pericarditis risks for young male after vaccination https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab989/6445179

 
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