BP is it worth the health risk?

[paperboyNC]

No way to avoid everything. I've had cancer and I tried to avoid everything including never ever spraying ANY pesticides for ants and yes, I did use shampoos that have less chemicals. No matter what I do, I can't control my neighbors and their pesticide spray includes spraying outdoors and it gets into the air I breathe.

I'm a firm believer that if we lived long enough we would ALL have some form of cancer. There is just way too many times dna gets replicated to not have mistakes made every great once in a while and eventually one will run wild.

No caffeine, no drinking, no smoking (holding my breath around second hand smoke), no birth control pills, no nothing as far as I know and what did that get me? The big C. Just can't be avoided in the end.

Did you go Vegetarian? It reduces cancer risk by over 90%.

 

[Irvine Dream]

No caffeine, no drinking, no smoking (holding my breath around second hand smoke), no birth control pills, no nothing

Did you go Vegetarian?

And the point of living is? >

 

[gasman]

Seriously, we're not living near Chernobyl.

Every city in the world would have to be labeled under CA Prop 65 if it were applicable everywhere.  If a Dr. asks if you've been around any environments containing cancer causing substances, just walk down to the lobby of the medical building or hospital, and you'll see the Prop 65 sign there too.  And in the parking structure.

Oh, and that new car smell?  Carcinogens.  Take a deep breath and grow another limb.

 

[Perspective]

I keep waiting to hear someone extol the virtues of avoiding vaccinations for your kids. I'm pleasantly surprised to have not heard it, yet.

 

[kayochan]

One Ford road community in NB is supposedly build upon toxic land and those homes have gone up significantly from their selling price.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

I think it's a consideration if all other things are relatively equal.  You also have a reputation issue when you try to resell the house.  Portola Springs (for example) for whatever reason has not gotten the same level of $/Sq. feet as Woodbury or Stonegate.  Problem is that once the price is set for a community, it is hard to move away from that.

Personally, I do not think the price at BP are very good at all...especially after you factor in the Mello Roos. 

 

[peppy]

I think it's a consideration if all other things are relatively equal.  You also have a reputation issue when you try to resell the house.  Portola Springs (for example) for whatever reason has not gotten the same level of $/Sq. feet as Woodbury or Stonegate.  Problem is that once the price is set for a community, it is hard to move away from that.

Personally, I do not think the price at BP are very good at all...especially after you factor in the Mello Roos.

Is this why they throw in a free bike?

 

[eatthis]

However I find it odd that many of these same people are quick to ridicule or minimize others who have opposing views/beliefs on this topic, especially when the evidence is growing against them.

Oh, if you think this is ridiculing people you haven't seen nothing yet. This is one of the mildest thread on TI.

Wait 'till you get people started on all the dead body that's going to be buried in the cemetery that's going to be built next to BP. That'll really get people riled up.

 

[OC troll]

However I find it odd that many of these same people are quick to ridicule or minimize others who have opposing views/beliefs on this topic, especially when the evidence is growing against them.

Oh, if you think this is ridiculing people you haven't seen nothing yet. This is one of the mildest thread on TI.

Wait 'till you get people started on all the dead body that's going to be buried in the cemetery that's going to built next to BP. That'll really get people riled up.

Dead bodies and toxic land? Eastwood is looking better after each BP post  :-[

 

[zubs]

It's a TIC conspiracy to drive buyers to their new development.

 

[bones]

But are we really learning anything new here?  Dead bodies and toxic land have been part of the convo since day 1. It's just rinse, repeat, rehash. Someone posts toxic!! dead bodies!!  Someone else chimes in, OMG would never live there.  Someone then says, but there's risks in everyday life!  Perspective posts, DOUBLE MELLO!  Maybe that's why there was a TI so boring thread today.

 

[Perspective]

But are we really learning anything new here?  Dead bodies and toxic land have been part of the convo since day 1. It's just rinse, repeat, rehash. Someone posts toxic!! dead bodies!!  Someone else chimes in, OMG would never live there.  Someone then says, but there's risks in everyday life!  Perspective posts, DOUBLE MELLO!  Maybe that's why there was a TI so boring thread today.

"Double mello roos compounding annually at 2%!"

 

[hello]

I keep waiting to hear someone extol the virtues of avoiding vaccinations for your kids. I'm pleasantly surprised to have not heard it, yet.

So basically you just implied that if you have issues with toxic chemicals you are in the same camp as crazy anti-vaxxers...  nice.  Two very separate issues, yet to you both are crazy right?  For some reason, I have a feeling you have very little understanding of these issues, which is the typical reason why people tend to attack things. 

 

[Irvinecommuter]

I keep waiting to hear someone extol the virtues of avoiding vaccinations for your kids. I'm pleasantly surprised to have not heard it, yet.

So basically you just implied that if you have issues with toxic chemicals you are in the same camp as crazy anti-vaxxers...  nice.  Two very separate issues, yet to you both are crazy right?  For some reason, I have a feeling you have very little understanding of these issues, which is the typical reason why people tend to attack things.

 

[Perspective]

I keep waiting to hear someone extol the virtues of avoiding vaccinations for your kids. I'm pleasantly surprised to have not heard it, yet.

So basically you just implied that if you have issues with toxic chemicals you are in the same camp as crazy anti-vaxxers...  nice.  Two very separate issues, yet to you both are crazy right?  For some reason, I have a feeling you have very little understanding of these issues, which is the typical reason why people tend to attack things.

Didn't intend to equate the two. The key issue here is what is "toxic."

 

[peppy]

I keep waiting to hear someone extol the virtues of avoiding vaccinations for your kids. I'm pleasantly surprised to have not heard it, yet.

So basically you just implied that if you have issues with toxic chemicals you are in the same camp as crazy anti-vaxxers...  nice.  Two very separate issues, yet to you both are crazy right?  For some reason, I have a feeling you have very little understanding of these issues, which is the typical reason why people tend to attack things.

Didn't intend to equate the two. The key issue here is what is "toxic."

Everything .... it just depends on the quantity.

 

[Perspective]

I keep waiting to hear someone extol the virtues of avoiding vaccinations for your kids. I'm pleasantly surprised to have not heard it, yet.

So basically you just implied that if you have issues with toxic chemicals you are in the same camp as crazy anti-vaxxers...  nice.  Two very separate issues, yet to you both are crazy right?  For some reason, I have a feeling you have very little understanding of these issues, which is the typical reason why people tend to attack things.

Didn't intend to equate the two. The key issue here is what is "toxic."

Everything .... it just depends on the quantity.

Reminds me of frat guys who die after drinking many gallons of water during hazing rituals.

 

[Laguna21]

If you have to even question it, then you probably know the answer.

Even if there was a 1% shred of doubt in my mind, the answer would be no. Why risk it when there are other homes to buy? Plenty of other areas in Irvine to purchase than BP as others have said. Especially when it comes to children, why even take that risk.

Why don't you guys live in other places other than SoCal so your kids can breathe fresh air all day instead of inhaling smog 24/7? There are other choices to live besides SoCal. Perhaps I can recommend Montana?? They probably have some good clean air up there.

The fact is everything kills you. You can't run from it.

There's a huge difference. Smog is everywhere and can't be avoided.

However, I don't need to purchase a home knowing the soil in the surrounding area is contaminated and have no stats on the long-term health effects, ESPECIALLY when it comes to kids.

Yes, there are SO many other environmental factors that come into play that it's impossible to avoid any kind of risk, but just because that is the case, doesn't mean you go and add MORE risk to your plate than necessary.

But I'm not criticizing anyone's decision either way. I'm just saying, don't knock those that choose not to live on contaminated soil, because they have their own reasons.

In summary, I don't want to find out 20 years down the road that I could have possibly avoided cancer or other medical issues because I chose to purchase a home on land that was contaminated.

Just like I'm not going to throw an extra $100 on black on the roulette table just because I already bet $100. But I guess some people like to double down on their risk!

And no, we are not one of those crazy anti-vaxxers either. Don't get me started on them, and the OC is chock full of those nut jobs.

 

[AW]

Curious on your thoughts on pesticides in OH?

 

[eatthis]

I don't want to find out 20 years down the road that I could have possibly avoided cancer or other medical issues because I chose to purchase a home on land that was contaminated.

You have to do what you think is best for your family and with your money. No knocking that. But, there are just as many posts knocking people who chose to buy in BP. There's a lot of fear mongering going on. Is the risk imagined or real?