BP is it worth the health risk?
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Why don't you guys live in other places other than SoCal so your kids can breathe fresh air all day instead of inhaling smog 24/7? There are other choices to live besides SoCal. Perhaps I can recommend Montana?? They probably have some good clean air up there.
The fact is everything kills you. You can't run from it.
Pesticides were a concern when we bought at Orchard Hills. I have not seen or heard of any aerial spraying so far after 1 year but it is one of the reasons we did not buy at Trevi and Amelia. Capella is right next to the avocado trees as well. Saviero, Messina, and La Vita are pretty far away. Vicenza is closer but not right next to like the above 3.
Having said that, anyone put pesticides on their home to kill ants and other pesky insects? How about chemical cleaning products and dishwash soap? Or leather cleaner for sofas we sit on daily? Modern medicine has more then offset the industrial chemicals of our time. Life expectancy is so much longer now then ever before. LOL. I would still hate to see aerial spraying 100 feet from my house.
homer_simpson
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Why would someone put themselves or their family's health in jeopardy when they have other choices of homes to purchase is beyond me.
If something were to happen to a member of my family and was found to be correlated to the contamination; I would never be able to forgive myself.
To me, I would NOT buy here or anywhere that have these disclosures to live in... To invest... well... that's a different story
If something were to happen to a member of my family and was found to be correlated to the contamination; I would never be able to forgive myself.
To me, I would NOT buy here or anywhere that have these disclosures to live in... To invest... well... that's a different story
Laguna21
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If you have to even question it, then you probably know the answer.
Even if there was a 1% shred of doubt in my mind, the answer would be no. Why risk it when there are other homes to buy? Plenty of other areas in Irvine to purchase than BP as others have said. Especially when it comes to children, why even take that risk.
Even if there was a 1% shred of doubt in my mind, the answer would be no. Why risk it when there are other homes to buy? Plenty of other areas in Irvine to purchase than BP as others have said. Especially when it comes to children, why even take that risk.
qwerty
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Laguna21 said:
Why don't you guys live in other places other than SoCal so your kids can breathe fresh air all day instead of inhaling smog 24/7? There are other choices to live besides SoCal. Perhaps I can recommend Montana?? They probably have some good clean air up there.
The fact is everything kills you. You can't run from it.
In case you haven't heard, the long overdue "Big One" is coming. And, it'll be way bigger than anyone has thought.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/12/us/california-earthquake-san-andreas-san-jacinto
If you live in California and accept this huge whopper of risk that puts your entirely family in danger every single day it should make every other "reasonable" risk seem manageable.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/12/us/california-earthquake-san-andreas-san-jacinto
If you live in California and accept this huge whopper of risk that puts your entirely family in danger every single day it should make every other "reasonable" risk seem manageable.
Ready2Downsize
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Montana has clean air for sure but then you'd be closer to the Yellowstone Caldera and when that one blows it will surely take you out (and 2/3 of America if we r to believe the doomsayers) more than any quake in So Cal.
Ready2Downsize
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No idea about Phil Jackson. I know Montana and Wyoming are beautiful country, having worked in Yellowstone one summer while in college. A return visit to Yellowstone is on my bucket list....... just no place quite like Yellowstone.
Absolutely the best prime rib I've ever had was in Montana.
Absolutely the best prime rib I've ever had was in Montana.
Cornflakes
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I can't bring myself to leave Irvine.
To counter the toxins from my future BP living, I have stopped eating fruits and veggies altogether. Hopefully the reduced pesticides in my body will make up for BP toxins. >
To counter the toxins from my future BP living, I have stopped eating fruits and veggies altogether. Hopefully the reduced pesticides in my body will make up for BP toxins. >
IrvineRes88
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Reading from all the postings, I realized some feel the toxic situation could be serious while others take it lightly. The folks that take it Iightly are comfortable living in BP. Talked to a couple of physicians friends of mine, the first thing they ask a patient when cancer is first diagnosed is " Have you or do you work or live in environment that exposed you to cancer causing toxins ". They say there is strong correlations. Somethings are to be taken lightly, but when it comes to health (especially for my kids), I opt to as much as possible protect my family from possible harm. Not to say the toxicity level at BP is not below government standard, but don't want to have doubts in the back of my mind.
Zippohunter
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AW said:
Pesticides were a concern when we bought at Orchard Hills. I have not seen or heard of any aerial spraying so far after 1 year but it is one of the reasons we did not buy at Trevi and Amelia. Capella is right next to the avocado trees as well. Saviero, Messina, and La Vita are pretty far away. Vicenza is closer but not right next to like the above 3.
Having said that, anyone put pesticides on their home to kill ants and other pesky insects? How about chemical cleaning products and dishwash soap? Or leather cleaner for sofas we sit on daily? Modern medicine has more then offset the industrial chemicals of our time. Life expectancy is so much longer now then ever before. LOL. I would still hate to see aerial spraying 100 feet from my house.
Ready2Downsize
Well-known member
You can't get around having chemical exposure. 1 in 8 women will get breast cancer in her lifetime. Use shampoo, make up or sunscreen? The chemicals in those products are not regulated by the FDA. They will absorb into your skin.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/breast-cancer-fears-over-chemical-6712286
So if you don't want to move to BP maybe you should avoid shampoo, makeup and sunscreen.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/breast-cancer-fears-over-chemical-6712286
So if you don't want to move to BP maybe you should avoid shampoo, makeup and sunscreen.
The couple posts above make good and valid points. Yes it is impossible to avoid ALL harmful chemical products. However just because you cant avoid all of them, doesnt mean you shouldnt avoid the ones you can. This is not an all or nothing issue. Unfortunately this is the common and illogical argument made by many.
I actually buy personal hygiene products that do not contain much if any harmful chemicals. Its not hard to find these products with just a little bit of research. Yes they do cost a bit more, but that is a personal choice we all must make. Where do you want to spend your money? Its a personal choice. Just recently Johnson and Johnson paid out huge sums of money because their products are known to cause cancer. The incidence of cancer is actually staggering. About 450 people out of every 100,000 that will develop cancer EVERY year.
If you spend a little bit of time researching, you will find a large community of people that actually buy products that minimizes exposure to harmful chemicals.
You have tons of companies growing rapidly based on the idea that they can provide healthier alternatives to everything from personal hygiene to furniture without fire retardants. The Honest Company by Jessica Alba is an example. Although they had some recent issues, this is a multi-million dollar company that aims to provide safer product options. Even laws are being changed. For example TB 117 that required fire retardant to be in all foams was recently repealed.
In my opinion, those that knowingly choose to ignore risks of hazardous chemicals are making a mistake. I wont judge them as they are their own person and are free to make their own decisions. However I find it odd that many of these same people are quick to ridicule or minimize others who have opposing views/beliefs on this topic, especially when the evidence is growing against them.
I actually buy personal hygiene products that do not contain much if any harmful chemicals. Its not hard to find these products with just a little bit of research. Yes they do cost a bit more, but that is a personal choice we all must make. Where do you want to spend your money? Its a personal choice. Just recently Johnson and Johnson paid out huge sums of money because their products are known to cause cancer. The incidence of cancer is actually staggering. About 450 people out of every 100,000 that will develop cancer EVERY year.
If you spend a little bit of time researching, you will find a large community of people that actually buy products that minimizes exposure to harmful chemicals.
You have tons of companies growing rapidly based on the idea that they can provide healthier alternatives to everything from personal hygiene to furniture without fire retardants. The Honest Company by Jessica Alba is an example. Although they had some recent issues, this is a multi-million dollar company that aims to provide safer product options. Even laws are being changed. For example TB 117 that required fire retardant to be in all foams was recently repealed.
In my opinion, those that knowingly choose to ignore risks of hazardous chemicals are making a mistake. I wont judge them as they are their own person and are free to make their own decisions. However I find it odd that many of these same people are quick to ridicule or minimize others who have opposing views/beliefs on this topic, especially when the evidence is growing against them.
Ready2Downsize
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No way to avoid everything. I've had cancer and I tried to avoid everything including never ever spraying ANY pesticides for ants and yes, I did use shampoos that have less chemicals. No matter what I do, I can't control my neighbors and their pesticide spray includes spraying outdoors and it gets into the air I breathe.
I'm a firm believer that if we lived long enough we would ALL have some form of cancer. There is just way too many times dna gets replicated to not have mistakes made every great once in a while and eventually one will run wild.
No caffeine, no drinking, no smoking (holding my breath around second hand smoke), no birth control pills, no nothing as far as I know and what did that get me? The big C. Just can't be avoided in the end.
I'm a firm believer that if we lived long enough we would ALL have some form of cancer. There is just way too many times dna gets replicated to not have mistakes made every great once in a while and eventually one will run wild.
No caffeine, no drinking, no smoking (holding my breath around second hand smoke), no birth control pills, no nothing as far as I know and what did that get me? The big C. Just can't be avoided in the end.